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Re: Wind and awnings

Reply #25
We have the  locking crows foot ones on each of the awnings, but when I bought the coach I noticed the main awning tube looked like it was sagging in the middle so I made a support for it and as ours (awning) sits above the roof rain gutter this mahogany support sits in the ledge and tightly under the roller of awning. No lock or? as the weight of the awning holds it in place. It has not moved in over 6 years (we do not use this main awning at all) as we use the other window ones. If I wanted to use main then it would need to have this block taken out to allow roller to unwind. Just driving down the hwy will bend the main tube.
I will post a picture in morning to let you see what I mean, but I have posted it before.
JohnH
Coachless, now use aircraft. 2003 Ford Travelair TC280 class C. Super shape. Just for 1 yr .
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Re: Wind and awnings

Reply #26
The bouncing going down the highway will eventually cause a sag in the middle, that is why the center supports are sold to prevent that. My awning has three holes in the middle near the roller that must be factory, they are grommeted holes and would let water out of the awning as it will sag some just from the weight of the roller.
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Re: Wind and awnings

Reply #27
C Man, my comments exactly in the post above yours, and the reason I did it many years ago.
JohnH
Coachless, now use aircraft. 2003 Ford Travelair TC280 class C. Super shape. Just for 1 yr .
1994 Ford E350 ClassC,total renovation inside and out. Now sold.
2000 U295  36' Cummins 350 c/w Banks Stinger, Resonator upgrade,Solar, LED lites.Residential fridge with slide out pantry. Build 5674. Sold
ex 92 GV 022C ored Cummins. Sold
ex 95 GV240 cat 3116. Sold
2017 Mini cooper s & 2016 land Rover LR2 HSE  LUX.
jhaygarth@aol.com    SKP #130098
treat everyone as you would like to be.

Re: Wind and awnings

Reply #28
The posts crossed paths John. one of those glitches where it moved it to draft on me and by the time I sent it yours was there.
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
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Re: Wind and awnings

Reply #29
Jeff, are you referring to the locks at the ends of the roller? How do you access them when the awning is rolled up?
With your awning tool David,Take the end and put it in the hole in the lock. How are you doing it?
91 GV U300 Unihome 40' Build 3811
6V92TA Detroit

Re: Wind and awnings

Reply #30
David on your Detroit you may find 18-1900 rpm even better. The 2 strokes like rpms.
I find about 1725 I am averaging about 8.3 mpg overall. That was to Sturgis, SD and back to Nc. pulling  a 16 ft open trailer with 2 Harleys and a golf cart. I was pretty happy with that. 1725 on mine seems to be the  sweet spot or in that area...
91 GV U300 Unihome 40' Build 3811
6V92TA Detroit

Re: Wind and awnings

Reply #31
Here's what I can see of the rear camlock. The first two pictures are taken with me standing on the picnic table so I'm as close as I can be. The other two pictures are what I see from the ground.

Re: Wind and awnings

Reply #32
You don't have the locks that I have. There is one on each end of the tube.
1993 U300 40ft GV SE
Build # 4344

Re: Wind and awnings

Reply #33
We replaced our awning/roller assembly in January 2014. We installed a center support for the roller and installed a center rafter. The rafter keeps the roller from bowing in when rain is trying to puddle on the awning and keeps the awning from ballooning out in the wind. It has made the awning much easier to deal with in rain and windy conditions.
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1997 U320 40'
Xtreme Remodel
2010 Scion XD

Re: Wind and awnings

Reply #34
Here's what I can see of the rear camlock. The first two pictures are taken with me standing on the picnic table so I'm as close as I can be. The other two pictures are what I see from the ground.
Your lock appears to have the same issue that mine did after Xtreme reinstalled it incorrectly.  If it is the same problem, it needs to be disconnected and rotated 180 degrees.  Then you have to re-tension the awning.  It's not hard to do but takes at least 2 people.  3 is better.  Zip Dee sent me the attached instructions.

Re: Wind and awnings

Reply #35
I only have a lock on may forward side. My rearward side kind of looks like it does not roll up as tight as the front. I also  have the center support pole but o not use it because sometimes it falls out. I'm sure I am doing something Not Right. I need to delve into it ore but just have too much other stuff in front o it!
91 GV U300 Unihome 40' Build 3811
6V92TA Detroit

Re: Wind and awnings

Reply #36
Our Biggie acts like Stump's does; it has the locker, but does not do anything. When it was painted, all the awnings came off; I have a hunch they did not know much when re-assembled. I do have two strips of velcro down lower to lock the arms together. Not even on "the list", the small awnings work fine for us. If I ever needed awning work, I'd find a independent Airstream dealer, they know Zip Dees up and down, most have parts, as well.  ^.^d
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Re: Wind and awnings

Reply #37
It's a two hour job to install the big awning. I have never understood how people who work on these thing regularly have so much trouble with the awnings but they do.
Larry
1996 U295 36'
Build # 4805
Actually we sold it but just like to lurk

Re: Wind and awnings

Reply #38
A quick question for the multitude. Ordering the latch mechanism for the big awning today, however looking at the individual window awnings I do not see a way to mount that type of latch. Also unless I am missing something the window awnings do not have a lock lever to actuate. Any thoughts on this? We have the standard Zip- Dee OEM awnings.

Thanks, Steve
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Re: Wind and awnings

Reply #39
  Also unless I am missing something the window awnings do not have a lock lever to actuate.

None of my dinky awnings have lockers, no real need for them, IMHO. The only time I've had them come out a tad was in a 80 mph side-gust on the Oregon Coast. Did no damage, other than surprise the heck out of me looking out the mirror! I believe there is a adjustment if they get a little loose.
1993 U-240 "La Villa Grande"..CAT 3116 w/ Pacbrake PRXB...Allison 3060 6-speed..
Previous: 1983 Airstream 310 turbo diesel, 1979 Airstream 280 turbo diesel
                                      Build # 4297
                                      PNW natives
                      Home base:  'Cactus Hug' (Ajo, Arizona)
                        DW Judy & Chet the wonder dog
                        Full-Timers 'Sailing the asphalt sea'

Re: Wind and awnings

Reply #40
Hook latches are needed for all awnings.  Having a window awning fly out, not only will surprise and distract a driver, the fly out could do damage.  Hooks are straight forward to install.  Window awning hooks are smaller than the larger patio awning hook.  These hooks are not the curved locking levers that are on the ends of patio awning rollers.  Hooks mount on coach wall and on bottom of metal awning cover a few inches in from end of window awning.  For extra security, we have two of the larger size hooks on the patio awning, one about a foot in from each end.

Re: Wind and awnings

Reply #41
Oh, Oh, this will start it!!
I like to think our 1989 Grand Villa is aerodynamically so well shaped the window awnings stay put. Not like the "brick shapes" running the highways these days. >:D  >:D
Nitehawk,  Demolition Lady, & our NEW master, Zippy the speeding BB cat.
1989 Grand Villa 36' ORED
Oshkosh chassis, 8.2 DD V8
2006 Saturn Vue AWD

Re: Wind and awnings

Reply #42
So that's why we get 7 mpg. . .


Re: Wind and awnings

Reply #44
Hmmm, wonder if towing a 2006 Saturn Vue that is supposed to be too heavy to be towed behind our aerodynamically shaped GV is what is holding us down to 9.3 MPH. Or could it be that, at 83,300 miles, our diesel engine is still not broken in?
Nitehawk,  Demolition Lady, & our NEW master, Zippy the speeding BB cat.
1989 Grand Villa 36' ORED
Oshkosh chassis, 8.2 DD V8
2006 Saturn Vue AWD

Re: Wind and awnings

Reply #45
You have a 20k weight empty coach. 
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Bob
1997 U320 40' Mid entry, build 5132,  wtbi ce27, 4th owner
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