Re: Electrical relations Reply #25 – March 09, 2018, 10:51:08 am If you are going to use the original Xantrex, don't buy a Cuisinart coffee maker, my old one ate 2 of them on the first day of each. Finally figured out what was going on as my old Mr. Coffee had no problem. With the new pure sine wave I was able to get the Cuisinart that my wife likes. Something about electronics don't like modified sine wave. Quote Selected 1 Likes
Re: Electrical relations Reply #26 – March 09, 2018, 02:47:20 pm Joe, If your broken inverter was true sine wave, the cost of repair could be a good value. I sense that not only the higher cost for a new charger/inverter, maybe having to modify things for a new device may be preventing your switchover. We also had to replace our Freedom/25 when it suddenly broke. We are not sure of what CAUSED the Freedom/25 to stop charging correctly. Could it have been a campground power pedestal anomaly or a coach device that caused the problem. But we are sure of the SYMPTOMS, because at the moment our Freedom/25 made a sound and failed, two high-tech expensive surge protection devices burned up with fire black smoke. We were fortunate that these were enclosed in a steel box that completely contained the burning. It was a good test for our smoke detectors that all sounded off.My feeling was that since this was all in place for many years, that our Freedom/25 with all its many electronic components were just 'worn out' from heat and demands. Or the modified sine wave was just too much for our devices and they finally gave out. Every one of our 120-volt devices are designed to be plugged into true-sine wave electrical supply. There are no devices manufactured for modified sine wave, although many will work on modified-sine wave. Those that work, may be stressed and themselves fail prematurely. We had a friend that had several TV failures he figured were from being powered with modified sine wave.We also had several wireless remote 120-outlets that would stop working after a while. Factory would replace and finally a tech asked where we were using them, and blurted out they are not to be used on Modified Sine Waves. At that time Camping World was even selling these devices and soon stopped carrying them. A small capacitor would fail after being used for a while.For sure if you keep your coach you will at some time replace your inverter charger, nothing lasts forever. At that time you may not even find a modified sinewave inverter charger. It is so much more 'fun' replacing parts when there is time to cogitate over choices. Quote Selected
Re: Electrical relations Reply #27 – March 09, 2018, 03:01:56 pm Craneman and Barry, you both brought up good thoughts. I actually have used my inverter only a few times. Craneman I don't use a cusinart but I use a kureig and have had no problems. Barry you are correct I am cost driven and ease of installation. I will enquire is this is a modified sine wave and if so can they make a true sinewave. Like I said have only used the inverter a couple of times and noticed no affect on my led TV's. Thanks everyone this forum is the best source of info anywhere. Quote Selected
Re: Electrical relations Reply #28 – March 09, 2018, 03:04:53 pm As bdale posted the newer units advantages are considerable. The microwaves increased power and quiet operation running on full sine wave was an plus.Last 20 years of Foretravel production have had a BTMS, Cannot be made full sine wave as far as I know Quote Selected
Re: Electrical relations Reply #29 – March 10, 2018, 12:17:25 am Joe, Follow your plan. Great that you are sharing with us. It is the battery charger component that is not working, and likely the inverter part is ok. No modified sine cannot be made sine, but there are many inexpensive sine wave standalone inverters out there. If you decide that sine wave is of value, even if not used very much, a separate inverter can be installed. And your fixed charger will keep your batteries up. Quote Selected
Re: Electrical relations Reply #30 – March 12, 2018, 06:21:14 pm Ok, I had the inverter/charger repaired and need a little help. I am using 2 8d agm batteries. Can someone tell me what my dip switches settings should be? They are numbered 1 thru 8. They can be set for Gel or Wet Cells. I'm told AGMs should be set for wet cells. I find the chart in my manual confusing so I need advise from you battery experts. My charger/inverter is a Heart25charger/inverter. Cost of repair was $275.00. I plan to reinstall this Wednesday. Quote Selected
Re: Electrical relations Reply #31 – March 12, 2018, 06:44:37 pm Joeszeidel, Check starting at page 30 for dip switch settings. Quote Selected
Re: Electrical relations Reply #32 – March 12, 2018, 06:56:59 pm Jack Thats exactly what I find confusing. I don't understand any of that stuff. Quote Selected
Re: Electrical relations Reply #33 – March 12, 2018, 09:27:46 pm QuoteI don't understand any of that stuff.You don't really need to. You can go with the default settings for all but dip switch numbers 2 and 3. For those, you can set for warm wet cell and you'll be fine. 1-off2-on3-off4-off5-off6-off7-off8-offjor Quote Selected 2 Likes
Re: Electrical relations Reply #34 – March 13, 2018, 09:46:38 am Jor thank you for the help, reading the material Jack sent was to confusing for this old brain. Here are some things i have learned. First dont assume that because you are under roof and plugged in that everything is ok. I did not check voltage enough and when my charger failed it burned up two 8d batteries. I will now check voltages more often. Next i learned more about modified and full sign wave inverters. If you use lots of electronics and electrical equipment that has small motors then use a true sign wave inverter. Especillay if you boondock alot. If you are like me who seldom does then a modified will probably be ok. You can also use the generator instead of the inverter for some although that may not be your best choice. Anyway thank you all for this learning experience.. Quote Selected 1 Likes
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