Red Head Blueprint Rebuilt Steering Gear

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Re: Red Head Blueprint Rebuilt Steering Gear

Reply #50 – June 10, 2018, 06:23:47 pm

Quote from: DavidS – June 10, 2018, 01:36:42 pm

Bump!!!

I think I will take my box out next weekend and send it off to Red Head.. Anyone have the procedure to check the stops( I think thats what its called) after or before install? Is there a way to mark it before hand? Or any ideas? thanks

When they did mine I talked with them on the phone and I think they said they don't mess with the stops when reworking them. You might want to ask them.

Mark

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Reply #51 – June 10, 2018, 06:29:02 pm

I do not question what mark Mark said. But I would sure invest the 2 minutes to confirm initial stop settings.

Re: Red Head Blueprint Rebuilt Steering Gear

Reply #52 – June 10, 2018, 10:24:40 pm

I read they didnt either but with my luck.. I'd rather check it twice and be sure than to not check and have an issue

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Reply #53 – June 16, 2018, 01:32:51 pm

its out... took about 3 hrs from start to getting it actually out...Almost by myself.. My son Helped and a friend when it came time to lower the box.. I did not remove the squirrel cage or the gen radiator.. just slid the gen out and made a 2" hole at the bolt for the Arm removal... we will see how the install goes in a couple weeks

Re: Red Head Blueprint Rebuilt Steering Gear

Reply #54 – June 16, 2018, 03:42:44 pm

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its out... took about 3 hrs from start to getting it actually out...Almost by myself..

My hat's off to you guys who take this on. I saw two guys (or was it three) at Motorhomes struggling for quite a while to get one out. It looked like a very tough jog. Bien hecho.
jor

Re: Red Head Blueprint Rebuilt Steering Gear

Reply #55 – June 16, 2018, 04:08:37 pm

Good job, David. It looked to me like the hardest part was getting the pitman arm off the shaft. I just don't have that kind of tool. I hope you have a floor jack to hoist it back into place. It is awkward and heavy.

After ours went back in we had to do some adjustment to get the steering wheel lined up. It takes a short drive on a straight road to get it right. Don't make any assumptions about the stop setting adjustment either. Check and adjust as needed

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Reply #56 – June 16, 2018, 04:23:13 pm

I borrowed Lon's tool.. would not have gotten it off wow was it tight.. it took more time than almost anything

Where is the stop at.. there is a hole in the top with a screw in it... is that it?

Re: Red Head Blueprint Rebuilt Steering Gear

Reply #57 – June 16, 2018, 11:28:12 pm

How can we get our manual stop steering gear rebuilt and end up with an automatic stop steering gear?

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Reply #58 – June 17, 2018, 12:13:27 am

There is a screw port on the top and bottom. I don't recall which one works which side. When you turn to the left or right at some point the hydraulic pressure is relieved and you cant turn any further. What you don't want to have happen is the turning part making hard contact with the axle. The pressure cut out should stop the turning anpbout 1/4" before the hard stops on both sides.

This is a two person job with flashlights, a small screw driver and walkie talkies.

If these are set wrong and you make a hard stop contact you are likely to blow a seal under preasure. Not good.

There apparently is an automatic version, I am not sure is FT used these but the adjustment process is different.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6-zAfAqpyoU&time_continue=293

Sheppard Steering M100PDP1

Re: Red Head Blueprint Rebuilt Steering Gear

Reply #59 – June 18, 2018, 01:11:09 pm

Update from Readhed Steering it you were wondering..

Rebuild takes 2-3 days on this unit and runs $496 + $60 in freight each direction

As of today 6-18-2018

Re: Red Head Blueprint Rebuilt Steering Gear

Reply #60 – June 18, 2018, 07:27:35 pm

My '03 has auto adjust

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Reply #61 – June 27, 2018, 09:39:17 pm

I should have the steering box back by fri or monday.. hope its fri so I can get this thing back together..

Do I need to fill the steering box with fluid at any point before hand? dont want to burn anything up .. what would be the fluid procedure for installation?

Thanks

Re: Red Head Blueprint Rebuilt Steering Gear

Reply #62 – June 27, 2018, 10:28:21 pm

Quote from: DavidS – June 27, 2018, 09:39:17 pm

1. Do I need to fill the steering box with fluid at any point before hand?
2. what would be the fluid procedure for installation?

David,
1. No
2. Hook up your hoses, make sure that the hyd. tank is full, (did you install 3 new filters and oil in the tank?) now crank. By the time you let loose of the key the gear box will be pressurized. Any air will be purged out back to the tank through the return hose. After you check your stops make sure you recheck your hyd. oil level.

Pamela & Mike

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Reply #63 – June 28, 2018, 12:00:34 am

You will have to add some oil in the hyd reservoir, could be a couple quarts. It depends on how much you drained out of the lines. You may also need to adjust the steering wheel to be at the right position when going straight ahead. This is best done with a short drive.

Be sure you check left and right stop settings. It takes two people to do this to ensure you don't make hard contact.

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Reply #64 – June 28, 2018, 08:59:14 am

Also a good time to change filters and oil, particularly if there is any "metal sheen" when you put an oil sample in the sun light.

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Reply #65 – June 28, 2018, 09:04:24 am

Ok, I believe there is a filter in the big reservoir housing? Where are the others that will need changed? I checked the stops before it left and will double check before and after install also..Thanks for the help

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Reply #66 – June 28, 2018, 09:08:05 am

They are all in the reservoir, 3 I believe.

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Reply #67 – June 28, 2018, 09:13:38 am

Correct. Three stacked on top of each other.

Remove the banjo clamp holding the lid on.

Siphon/suck the fluid out of the reservoir (so you do not mix the unfiltered fluid on the outside with the filtered fluid on the inside of the filters.

Remove the wing nut and large washer (no tools required.

Pull out the stack of three filters and replace.

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Reply #68 – June 28, 2018, 09:14:44 am

Quote from: craneman – June 28, 2018, 09:08:05 am

They are all in the reservoir, 3 I believe.

Barry's site show 84101b Donaldson

Filter hydraulic, 84101B, Nelson Exhaust

Is it 3 of these in the tank?

Edit

Get the old oil out of the reservoir, remove the filters and add the oil back? then top off? sound good?

Re: Red Head Blueprint Rebuilt Steering Gear

Reply #69 – June 28, 2018, 11:06:31 am

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Get the old oil out of the reservoir, remove the filters and add the oil back? then top off? sound good?

That's the right filter and here's what it looks like. Also, I would take Brett's advice on cleaning up the tank. Check out what mine looked like. Probably never opened in 20 years.
jor

Re: Red Head Blueprint Rebuilt Steering Gear

Reply #70 – June 28, 2018, 11:35:54 am

Make sure you get a new gasket for the housing.

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Reply #71 – June 28, 2018, 11:53:42 am

Suspect Richard is talking about the gasket around the lid.

If it does leak/weep, it can always be replaced later in under 10 minutes with no loss of fluid, etc.

Sorry, don't have the PN handy.

Also, to keep dirt out of the reservoir, I tape a large trash sack/plastic over the area above the reservoir.

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Reply #72 – June 28, 2018, 12:35:31 pm

Quote from: wolfe10 – June 28, 2018, 11:53:42 am

Sorry, don't have the PN handy.

999-55a

Mike

Re: Red Head Blueprint Rebuilt Steering Gear

Reply #73 – June 28, 2018, 12:39:15 pm

Thanks, Mike.

Yup, that is it.

Re: Red Head Blueprint Rebuilt Steering Gear

Reply #74 – June 28, 2018, 01:25:45 pm

JOR, Thanks for the photos. Images of what we are talking about always helps.

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