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Reply #25
3D printing company close to house.  Took them the original, told them what changes I wanted, they engineered (CAD work).  Ordered 1 so as to check for fit. Nice tight fit, its not going anywhere. Good for another 20+ years. The cost is $145.00 incl. set-up and tax. 
John
John and Stacey Smith
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Reply #26
Outstanding, I bet if we got 10 or more wanting one, the price would go down. Could you ask if the company is interested in making more?
John
1998 U270 34'

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Reply #27
I would like one, can we start an unobtainium parts catalog?
Windwalker
2002 Custom No Slide U320
98 U295 36'
92 Grand Villa 29' front engine gas-Sold
Motorcade 18100

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Reply #28
Very COOL!  What is the thickness of the material (compared to your original).  Does it still fit into the "slide-in" metal mounting tracks?  We still have our original, but it is so brittle that I am afraid it will shatter every time I remove or install it.
1993 U280 SE 40' WTBI, Build: 4359
C8.3 300hp, 6-Speed, Exhaust Brake
960 watts on the roof (6 x 160)
Sorento (or BOLT) on a Kar Kaddy SS
"Nature abhors a vacuum"

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Reply #29
The new cover is approx 2x the thickness.  Yes it still fits into the mounts.  They do not slide in as they snap in.  When I received it I tried to slide it in.  No bueno, as the damper adj are in the way if sliding, so I tried to slide the old one in, nope, they snap in the mounting brackets.  It fits great, a little tighter to put in and remove, but no problem.  Having owned a machine shop and developing my own products, as a prototype it seems to be right on the first try.  It surely is not flimsy any more.
Since I have paid for the design work, and the program is a 1 time thing no-one will incur the cost. He will give a price break on qty orders.  Other colors available.
John
John and Stacey Smith
Motorcade NO: 11973
1997 U295 CSGI 40'..Build No. 5036     
920 Watts on the roof..CAT Power w/fuel Inj. Programmer
2021 GMC Sierra AT4 1500
EX..2015 Jeep Wrangler Sahara
Ex 1990 U280 RSAI 36'..Build No. 3638

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Reply #30
OUCH...... Forty hours, even at minimum wage rates that's expensive... but if no other alternative I guess its cheap at any price.
Gary B

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Reply #31
I believe the originals were vacuum molded, .062 plastic.  I only needed 1 and the cost of a mold was out of the question. I also was surprised that it too 40+ hrs,  he said most jobs are small parts, small qty.  I would buy a 3D printer of my own; but the last thing I need to do is wind up starting another company....This has happened before.
John
 
John and Stacey Smith
Motorcade NO: 11973
1997 U295 CSGI 40'..Build No. 5036     
920 Watts on the roof..CAT Power w/fuel Inj. Programmer
2021 GMC Sierra AT4 1500
EX..2015 Jeep Wrangler Sahara
Ex 1990 U280 RSAI 36'..Build No. 3638

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Reply #32
OUCH...... Forty hours, even at minimum wage rates that's expensive...
Yes, but it's not like somebody is standing there operating the machine the whole 40 hours.  The way I understand the process, once the program is in the printer, you can just walk away and let it do its thing.  Perhaps it is not as simple as I envision...
1993 U280 SE 40' WTBI, Build: 4359
C8.3 300hp, 6-Speed, Exhaust Brake
960 watts on the roof (6 x 160)
Sorento (or BOLT) on a Kar Kaddy SS
"Nature abhors a vacuum"

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Reply #33
It is just that simple...They have approx 30 printers and 1 operator.  just keep up with the pieces and plastic wire and you are good.
Hourly rate is very fair.
John
John and Stacey Smith
Motorcade NO: 11973
1997 U295 CSGI 40'..Build No. 5036     
920 Watts on the roof..CAT Power w/fuel Inj. Programmer
2021 GMC Sierra AT4 1500
EX..2015 Jeep Wrangler Sahara
Ex 1990 U280 RSAI 36'..Build No. 3638

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Reply #34
Great work John!!!! I'm in for 2 if that is possible

PM sent!

Best,

Jeff
1993 U300 40ft GV SE
Build # 4344

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Reply #35
Very cool! Looks exactly like the original one I gave a forum member a while ago!  ^.^d
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Reply #36
3D printing has to be done one layer at a time and is a slow process right now. The possibilities are almost unlimited.

Digital color printing took a while to make it cost effective to traditional offset printing in terms of cost per copy. Advances in the technology, ink toners, etc have made the cost come down to make it competitive.    Most print shops I know of have replaced much of their offset printing with digital copiers. 

Here's a time lapse video of an LS3 engine block 3D printed.  It only took 84 hours!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDn1nosgQ5k
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Jerry and Cindy Maddux
1993 U300/36WTBI DD6v92TA
build 4271  "Miss Lou"
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Reply #39
I'm curious as to whether these 3D printed parts are suitable for long term use.  Are they generally UV stable and tough enough to replace OEM, or is it still more of a prototyping tool? 


Just paint the plastic. Let the paint fight the UV rays.
1998 U270 34'

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Reply #40
If the price with shipping can be less than $100; I would buy one.
John
1998 U270 34'

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Reply #41
I've lost track what is being "printed" in this thread. Presume it is a Fantastik fan ceiling grill??

Jim

002 U320
Jim Frerichs
2002 U320 42'

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Reply #42
Jim,

It's the interior plastic cover that slides/snaps in place to close off the Kool-O-Matic fan grill.  See Reply #23:

Unobtainium
1993 U280 SE 40' WTBI, Build: 4359
C8.3 300hp, 6-Speed, Exhaust Brake
960 watts on the roof (6 x 160)
Sorento (or BOLT) on a Kar Kaddy SS
"Nature abhors a vacuum"

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Reply #43
Thanks Chuck.. 
Jim
Jim Frerichs
2002 U320 42'

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Reply #44
Velcro and 1/2 inch insulation board,poor man's OBTAINIUM.
96 U270 BUILD 4810
85 380SL
Drummonds TN.

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Reply #45
If anyone still wants one of these 3D printed vent covers for the Kool-O-Matic fan, PM me know as I will placing an order tomorrow.  The cost will be 145.00 plus tax and shipping, you can pick your color.  As I stated before I am not making a penny on these and am absorbing the engineering costs.  If there is a price break for qty. I will let individuals know.
John
John and Stacey Smith
Motorcade NO: 11973
1997 U295 CSGI 40'..Build No. 5036     
920 Watts on the roof..CAT Power w/fuel Inj. Programmer
2021 GMC Sierra AT4 1500
EX..2015 Jeep Wrangler Sahara
Ex 1990 U280 RSAI 36'..Build No. 3638

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Reply #46
On the trail of the elusive red/black window locks for our Creation windows (one is broken), I decided to call the ONLY source I could find... ParKin Accessories in Elkhart, IN.  I inquired about part #C535754000 - see image at the left end of row three:  Creation window parts

The very nice gentleman informed me that they sold the last part in July, 2018 - and that the manufacturer of the part went out of business in 2008.

Given the comments here (and in other threads) about wanting - but not currently finding - this part, there would definitely be a demand for a 3D-printed version of this window lock.  I would have to believe that FOT and MOT would want to carry stock as both parts departments told me last month they were asked frequently for these locks, but have no source.

Has the 3D printing idea been explored for this lock?
The selected media item is not currently available.Pat Hatfield
2000 U295 3600 #5666 WTFE (sold 1/7/20)
2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee
previously: 2003 U295 3610 #6228 (sold 5/29/14)
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Reply #47
Have you tried FOT parts dept for the window locks? 
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and Diane Lang
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Reply #48
If I had a sample of the part I can get it 3D printed.  They will not cost much as part is small and simple. If all pieces are available it can easily be replicated.  Have done the Kool-A-Matic fan/vent covers with success.  Only drawback was pricey as the take 48 hrs to 3D print.  Cup holders for the dash work well too.
John and Stacey Smith
Motorcade NO: 11973
1997 U295 CSGI 40'..Build No. 5036     
920 Watts on the roof..CAT Power w/fuel Inj. Programmer
2021 GMC Sierra AT4 1500
EX..2015 Jeep Wrangler Sahara
Ex 1990 U280 RSAI 36'..Build No. 3638

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Reply #49
Have you tried FOT parts dept for the window locks? 
Yes, I asked both FOT and MOT when we were there last month.  They haven't had them for quite awhile, I was told.  :(
The selected media item is not currently available.Pat Hatfield
2000 U295 3600 #5666 WTFE (sold 1/7/20)
2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee
previously: 2003 U295 3610 #6228 (sold 5/29/14)
previously:  2009 Honda CRV (sold 6/9/14)