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Re: Tire load ratings and inflation - G vs H

Reply #25
Monaco also uses an easily adjustable pressure regulator to control PSI to the tag.

Of course, a separate ride height valve for the tag axle could achieve the same thing, but there can be some down sides.
Brett Wolfe
EX: 1993 U240
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Re: Tire load ratings and inflation - G vs H

Reply #26
What do you think Brett?
Jim C.
coachfree, previous 1997, 1999, 2000, and 2003 Foretravels.

Re: Tire load ratings and inflation - G vs H

Reply #27
Don't see any adjustment.  Would have to put a pressure regulator in lines 80 and 81.  WAY past my pay grade to know all the pluses and minuses.

James Triana at Foretravel or Aubrey Lee at MOT would be the best people to work with on any project like this. 

BUT, only worth it if percent of GAWR is way off between the three axles.
Brett Wolfe
EX: 1993 U240
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Re: Tire load ratings and inflation - G vs H

Reply #28
Don't see any adjustment.  Would have to put a pressure regulator in lines 80 and 81.  WAY past my pay grade to know all the pluses and minuses.

James Triana at Foretravel or Aubrey Lee at MOT would be the best people to work with on any project like this. 

BUT, only worth it if percent of GAWR is way off between the three axles.

Yes, Aubrey has already told me the system was designed so no adjustment was possible or necessary.
Jim C.
coachfree, previous 1997, 1999, 2000, and 2003 Foretravels.

Re: Tire load ratings and inflation - G vs H

Reply #29
Yes, Aubrey has already told me the system was designed so no adjustment was possible or necessary.

Curious me-- I would still confirm that you have close to the same percent of GAWR on each axle before concluding that "no adjustment is necessary".

SO, any tag axle owners who will share this info:

Front axle GAWR    Front axle actual weight    Actual weight as percent of GAWR

Rear axle GAWR      Rear axle actual weight                    "

Tag axle GAWR      Tag axle actual weight                      "
Brett Wolfe
EX: 1993 U240
Moderator, ForeForum 2001-
Moderator Diesel RV Club 2002-
Moderator, FMCA Forum 2009-2020
Chairman FMCA Technical Advisory Committee 2011-2020

Re: Tire load ratings and inflation - G vs H

Reply #30
I am running about 90% gawr front, 85% drive, and 80% tag. If I put a 1500 lb motorcycle and lift on the back, would tag take most of weight, or would it be distributed between tag and drive?
Jim C.
coachfree, previous 1997, 1999, 2000, and 2003 Foretravels.

Re: Tire load ratings and inflation - G vs H

Reply #31
If I recall the tag axle has a single air bag on each side and the drive axle has two air bags on each side. Assuming you are on level ground and all of the air bags are the same and at equal pressure and that the geometry of the tag axle puts the tires in uniform contact with the ground as the drive axle. 

Think this through...

It would look like three legged stool at each end of the rear axle pair.  Wouldn't the drive axle carry twice the load that the tag carries?  And since the drive axle has two tires on each end and the tag only one wouldn't all three tires individually carry the same load?  And if so they should all be inflated to the same PSI?

I don't have a tag and have not seen weight measurements from one.  Just trying to think it out.
Roger Engdahl and Susan Green
2001 U320 3610 #5879 (Home2) - 2014 Jeep Cherokee or 2018 F150
Hastings, MN

Re: Tire load ratings and inflation - G vs H

Reply #32
Without raising the tag pressure it would get the brunt of the added weight. Just physics.
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Re: Tire load ratings and inflation - G vs H

Reply #33
Jim C. (jcus) posted a formula a few years ago, that may help the discussion.

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Dave and Nancy Abel
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Re: Tire load ratings and inflation - G vs H

Reply #34
I am running about 90% gawr front, 85% drive, and 80% tag. If I put a 1500 lb motorcycle and lift on the back, would tag take most of weight, or would it be distributed between tag and drive?
I am going to guess the tag is going to take the brunt of the weight. Remember weight to back takes off the front, tag down force puts weight back on front. Now add ride height contol and we have all kinds of unknowns 
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Re: Tire load ratings and inflation - G vs H

Reply #35
Jim C. (jcus) posted a formula a few years ago, that may help the discussion.

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Good point, forgot about that, but now instead of a "teeter totter" effect with a single axle, you now have two axles designed to take equal [for their axle rating] loads. Be a shame, welding on your $5000 Hydralift, loading up your full dresser and finding out your axles are overloaded.
Jim C.
coachfree, previous 1997, 1999, 2000, and 2003 Foretravels.