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Re: Open Ground Error "E2" on Progressive Energy EMS

Reply #25 –
Electrician is here as I'm typing. We have not repaired it yet. Is my EMS fried after this event? Will I need to purchase a new one. I'm going back outside.


Thanks
Ed
Ed and Michele
2000 U295  36'  (Build #5600)
8.3 ISC 350HP.
2012 Jeep Grand Cherokee (Toad)
2001 Lance Truck Camper (Sold)
2001 Lazy Daze (Class C). RK Floor Plan (Sold)

Re: Open Ground Error "E2" on Progressive Energy EMS

Reply #26 –
Quote from: Lance Camper –
Electrician is here as I'm typing. We have not repaired it yet. Is my EMS fried after this event? Will I need to purchase a new one. I'm going back outside.
Progressive is a class act, contact them. I don't think your EMS is fried, think about WHAT could have happened without it to tip you off?  :facepalm:
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Re: Open Ground Error "E2" on Progressive Energy EMS

Reply #27 –
SMH in total disbelief. I couldn't bring myself to photograph the electrician while he was working.
The breaker box WAS NOT grounded to the utility company box. I watched as he snaked a ground wire from one box to the other thru the U shaped conduit. See photo. How in hell did this ever work in the first place. Owner told me previous tenant had no problems. The breaker box was installed about two years ago.

Could it possibly have been grounded to the to the bus bar inside the breaker box? 

Anyway it's grounded now to the utility company side. I watched him do it. I turned my generator off and plugged in my cord, threw the 50 amp breaker. I now get an E-0 on my EMS. It's working as designed.

Thanks to all of you for your suggestions
Ed and Michele

Happy wife, happy life
Ed and Michele
2000 U295  36'  (Build #5600)
8.3 ISC 350HP.
2012 Jeep Grand Cherokee (Toad)
2001 Lance Truck Camper (Sold)
2001 Lazy Daze (Class C). RK Floor Plan (Sold)

Re: Open Ground Error "E2" on Progressive Energy EMS

Reply #28 –
Should not be. It is made to keep bad things from happening.  Thus the no power with open ground. 
2014 ih45  (4th Foretravel owned)
 1997 36' U295 Sold in 2020, owned for 19 years
  U240 36' Sold to insurance company after melting in garage fire
    33' Foretravel on Dodge Chassis  Sold very long time ago

Re: Open Ground Error "E2" on Progressive Energy EMS

Reply #29 –
I'd still like to know if the EMS is protecting the Generator side. Did Foretravel install the EMS, or are they aftermarket? Would FT tech know?  Is that James T?

Ed
Ed and Michele
2000 U295  36'  (Build #5600)
8.3 ISC 350HP.
2012 Jeep Grand Cherokee (Toad)
2001 Lance Truck Camper (Sold)
2001 Lazy Daze (Class C). RK Floor Plan (Sold)

Re: Open Ground Error "E2" on Progressive Energy EMS

Reply #30 –
Quote from: Lance Camper –
The breaker box WAS NOT grounded to the utility company box. I watched as he snaked a ground wire from one box to the other thru the U shaped conduit. See photo. How in hell did this ever work in the first place. Owner told me previous tenant had no problems. The breaker box was installed about two years ago.

Could it possibly have been grounded to the to the bus bar inside the breaker box? 

Previous tenant did not have progressive to show a problem and I guess he never got shocked. 

If the picture of the meter is just the meter then all he would have had to do was put a jumper wire between the neutral and ground or install the green ground screw to tie both together.  If the box with the meter also has a main  breaker in it,  he then did the right thing since everything down from the main breaker has to have a separate ground these days.
2014 ih45  (4th Foretravel owned)
 1997 36' U295 Sold in 2020, owned for 19 years
  U240 36' Sold to insurance company after melting in garage fire
    33' Foretravel on Dodge Chassis  Sold very long time ago

Re: Open Ground Error "E2" on Progressive Energy EMS

Reply #31 –
Quote from: Lance Camper –
I'd still like to know if the EMS is protecting the Generator side. Did Foretravel install the EMS, or are they aftermarket? Would FT tech know?  Is that James T?

Ed


I would say it is only on the shore power side or it would have been showing power when you were on generator.  Yes James T should know if factory installed.
2014 ih45  (4th Foretravel owned)
 1997 36' U295 Sold in 2020, owned for 19 years
  U240 36' Sold to insurance company after melting in garage fire
    33' Foretravel on Dodge Chassis  Sold very long time ago

Re: Open Ground Error "E2" on Progressive Energy EMS

Reply #32 –
Quote from: turbojack –
Previous tenant did not have progressive to show a problem and I guess he never got shocked. 

If the picture of the meter is just the meter then all he would have had to do was put a jumper wire between the neutral and ground or install the green ground screw to tie both together.  If the box with the meter also has a main  breaker in it,  he then did the right thing since everything down from the main breaker has to have a separate ground these days.

Lucky tenant.
Not quite following you Turbojack. No breaker on meter side. He removed meter to gain access to the ground bus bar, thus no power. You mentioned he did the right thing. From listening to the owner and electrician I get the feeling he installed it in the first place. Thanks again for your help.

Ed
Ed and Michele
2000 U295  36'  (Build #5600)
8.3 ISC 350HP.
2012 Jeep Grand Cherokee (Toad)
2001 Lance Truck Camper (Sold)
2001 Lazy Daze (Class C). RK Floor Plan (Sold)

Re: Open Ground Error "E2" on Progressive Energy EMS

Reply #33 –
So? All good and happy? Those damn pedestals are the FIRST Place to look! The site we came into had a garbage bag over the pedestal. The 'Host' said it was because the people next door needed more power. He was full of it, as it turned out. After a CB of repairs, they fired the host, but never offered to comp the repairs. PM me of a Park to NEVER stay at in Prescott, AZ!
1993 U-240 "La Villa Grande"..CAT 3116 w/ Pacbrake PRXB...Allison 3060 6-speed..
Previous: 1983 Airstream 310 turbo diesel, 1979 Airstream 280 turbo diesel
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                                      PNW natives
                      Home base:  'Cactus Hug' (Ajo, Arizona)
                        DW Judy & Chet the wonder dog
                        Full-Timers 'Sailing the asphalt sea'

Re: Open Ground Error "E2" on Progressive Energy EMS

Reply #34 –
Easy money, compared to what happened to us!
1993 U-240 "La Villa Grande"..CAT 3116 w/ Pacbrake PRXB...Allison 3060 6-speed..
Previous: 1983 Airstream 310 turbo diesel, 1979 Airstream 280 turbo diesel
                                      Build # 4297
                                      PNW natives
                      Home base:  'Cactus Hug' (Ajo, Arizona)
                        DW Judy & Chet the wonder dog
                        Full-Timers 'Sailing the asphalt sea'

Re: Open Ground Error "E2" on Progressive Energy EMS

Reply #35 –
Quote from: Lance Camper –
I'd still like to know if the EMS is protecting the Generator side. Did Foretravel install the EMS, or are they aftermarket?

In that era coach, aftermarket.
Learn every day, but especially from the experiences of others. It's cheaper!  - John C. Bogle

2000 U320 36' non-slide / WildEBeest Rescue
2003 U320

Re: Open Ground Error "E2" on Progressive Energy EMS

Reply #36 –
Quote from: Michelle –
In that era coach, aftermarket.
We don't hear from you and hubby much, how goes everything? ^.^d
1993 U-240 "La Villa Grande"..CAT 3116 w/ Pacbrake PRXB...Allison 3060 6-speed..
Previous: 1983 Airstream 310 turbo diesel, 1979 Airstream 280 turbo diesel
                                      Build # 4297
                                      PNW natives
                      Home base:  'Cactus Hug' (Ajo, Arizona)
                        DW Judy & Chet the wonder dog
                        Full-Timers 'Sailing the asphalt sea'