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Reply #50
Tyler, we did use 1/4" Integraply as an underlayment throughout the coach before glueing down the floor.

Deb
2003 U320 4010 - SOLD
2014 RAM 1500 Ecodiesel

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Reply #51
Tyler, we did use 1/4" Integraply as an underlayment throughout the coach before glueing down the floor.

Deb

How did you secure to the existing plywood sub floor in the coach?  I suspect it would need to be glued as well to eliminate chance of long term issues?
2000 U320 4010

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Reply #52
Tyler, we did use 1/4" Integraply as an underlayment throughout the coach before glueing down the floor.

Deb

Another question - with the Adura glue-down tiles, how are the joints sealed between the tiles?  Does the glue seal them?  Are they caulked?  My biggest concern is keeping a water tight floor surface.  It never fails, dog bowl over flows, some yahoo full in front of me and coffee get spilled all over the floor, on and on.  I like the look of those Adura tiles, but am unsure how well they are sealed between each side. 

Thanks,

Evan
2000 U320 4010

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Reply #53
small spills with any flooring medium should be of no concern. Just wipe it up.
If you have a flood- no amount of "waterproof" flooring is going to help. Water gets everywhere-under walls, cabinets, etc

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Reply #54
Adura tiles and planks (as well as many other man made flooring products) have temperature conditions.  Storing our coach here in MN in the barn subjects it to some very cold temps, way below zero.  Mannington said those conditions void the warranty and would likely lead to a failure due to shrinkage and contraction even if glued down.  Check the fine print carefully.
Roger Engdahl and Susan Green
2001 U320 3610 #5879 (Home2) - 2014 Jeep Cherokee or 2018 F150
Hastings, MN

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Reply #55
Adura tiles and planks (as well as many other man made flooring products) have temperature conditions.  Storing our coach here in MN in the barn subjects it to some very cold temps, way below zero.  Mannington said those conditions void the warranty and would likely lead to a failure due to shrinkage and contraction even if glued down.  Check the fine print carefully.
You are correct about the extreme temperature variations voiding the warranty.  I don't know about the Adura but on all the other products we looked at,  just installation in a motorhome, RV or travel trailer automatically voids the warranty.  That was applicable to real wood, bamboo and synthetic materials.  Heck, even exposure to sunlight voids the warranty in a lot of cases  haha. 
Hannah and Tyler Phillips
1993 U280 Grand Villa AKA Pearl
Basement Air
Cummins 6CT8.3
Build Number 4196

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Reply #56
We keep cycling back to cork.  Pretty forgiving for install, a bit of give, warmer than vinyl or tile, even wood.  What we have still looks good so it is not on the top of the list yet.
Roger Engdahl and Susan Green
2001 U320 3610 #5879 (Home2) - 2014 Jeep Cherokee or 2018 F150
Hastings, MN

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Reply #57
Four years ago, we had our Armstrong vinyl tile glued down - installers used grout with a "flexible" additive.  It has held up well to the pounding and vibration of going down the road, and the warping of the floor due to frame movement.  We haven't lost any grout...so far.  Like said above, small liquid spills are no problem.  Just wipe them up.

We do not subject our coach interior to extreme low or high temps.  It sits outside all year round.  Winters here sometimes get below zero, and summer temps in West TX go over 100 for weeks at a time, but we maintain the interior at a "comfortable" temp (50-80 degrees) all year 'round.
1993 U280 SE 40' WTBI, Build: 4359
C8.3 300hp, 6-Speed, Exhaust Brake
960 watts on the roof (6 x 160)
Sorento (or BOLT) on a Kar Kaddy SS
"Nature abhors a vacuum"

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Reply #58
We keep cycling back to cork.  Pretty forgiving for install, a bit of give, warmer than vinyl or tile, even wood.  What we have still looks good so it is not on the top of the list yet.
Cork would be a cool option for sure, I was just concerned about our dogs nails. From what we read about cork it wasn't a good choice for large dogs.  Other than it has a lot of positives
Hannah and Tyler Phillips
1993 U280 Grand Villa AKA Pearl
Basement Air
Cummins 6CT8.3
Build Number 4196

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Reply #59
Apparently Lowe's will no longer be carrying Cali Bamboo products,

You may have dodged a bullet there.  We looked at Cali Bamboo for another project and ran it through some tests.  As with many bamboo products, it swelled significantly (and permanently) in a humid environment.  I was also able to scratch it fairly easily, which would not work with our 25 lb pups.
Learn every day, but especially from the experiences of others. It's cheaper!  - John C. Bogle

2000 U320 36' non-slide / WildEBeest Rescue
2003 U320

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Reply #60
We started pulling out furniture today and had a couple of questions about some things that we found.  First was what I thought was a cable chase right next to the entry door, but we discovered that it was just a block of wood, wrapped in carpet with 3 screws holding it down and there are no cables anywhere.  Second was a metal cap-looking thing under the couch, it is suspended off the floor by three screws and each one of the screws has a spring on it.  There's nothing else going to it.  It can be pushed down on the screws but is pushed back up by the springs.  We were curious if anyone could shed some light on these mysteries haha.
Hannah and Tyler Phillips
1993 U280 Grand Villa AKA Pearl
Basement Air
Cummins 6CT8.3
Build Number 4196

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Reply #61
Very mysterious....until you know the answers.

The block of carpet covered wood by the door.  Our coach also has one.  The best explanation I have been able to come up with: it is to keep the feet of a chair from sliding over the edge and falling into the stair well.  Our coach came with two barrel chairs.  The feet of one of them rests right up against the "chair stop".

The other metal thingy is the HWH level sensor.  It should have a wire coming out the bottom.  The wire normally goes to the HWH control box somewhere in your basement.  If there is no wire attached to it, then it is doing nothing, and your HWH Auto Level function will be inoperative.  Don't be tempted to crack it open and look inside cuz it has mercury in it.  See .pdf below for more info.

1993 U280 SE 40' WTBI, Build: 4359
C8.3 300hp, 6-Speed, Exhaust Brake
960 watts on the roof (6 x 160)
Sorento (or BOLT) on a Kar Kaddy SS
"Nature abhors a vacuum"

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Reply #62
Very mysterious....until you know the answers.

The block of carpet covered wood by the door.  Our coach also has one.  The best explanation I have been able to come up with: it is to keep the feet of a chair from sliding over the edge and falling into the stair well.  Our coach came with two barrel chairs.  The feet of one of them rests right up against the "chair stop".

The other metal thingy is the HWH level sensor.  It should have a wire coming out the bottom.  The wire goes to the HWH control box somewhere in your basement.  If there is no wire attached to it, then it is doing nothing.  Don't be tempted to crack it open and look inside cuz it has mercury in it.  See .pdf below for more info.


Thanks, Chuck and Jeannie I guess it wasn't much of a mystery after all haha!  I read several things about a cable chase that needed worked around and thought for sure that was what everyone was talking about with the thing behind the chair.  The HWH thing makes sense and on a closer inspection there is a wire running too it but was hidden by the carpet. 
Hannah and Tyler Phillips
1993 U280 Grand Villa AKA Pearl
Basement Air
Cummins 6CT8.3
Build Number 4196

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Reply #63
We glued, screwed and stapled the Integraply to the existing subfloor.

Most of the seams are pretty tight on the floor, some have a small gap. We were told at the store that one could grout the seams if they wanted to.

We also read on the Mannington website that installing in an RV voids all warranties no matter how it is installed.

Deb
2003 U320 4010 - SOLD
2014 RAM 1500 Ecodiesel

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Reply #64
We glued, screwed and stapled the Integraply to the existing subfloor.

Most of the seams are pretty tight on the floor, some have a small gap. We were told at the store that one could grout the seams if they wanted to.

We also read on the Mannington website that installing in an RV voids all warranties no matter how it is installed.

Deb
We were thinking about gluing the underlayment as well but we're also considering using a sound deadening underlayment with a vapor barrier underneath as well.  Either way we'll be using 1" long narrow crown staples to  attach it to the subfloor.  We just got all of the carpet, pad and staples out and will be going to get the underlayment and flooring this afternoon. 
Hannah and Tyler Phillips
1993 U280 Grand Villa AKA Pearl
Basement Air
Cummins 6CT8.3
Build Number 4196

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Reply #65
Looks great John!
I was/am thinking of doing the Cali Shoreline cork this winter. Not looking forward to removing the tile floor but its got to be done. The tile is cracked in places and some of the grout is bad, but all in all, after 20 years it don't look to bad. But the cork will be much nicer.
'99 U320 40 WTFE
Build #5462,
1500 Watts Solar 600 amp Victron lithium
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Reply #66
MOT uses the Audra tile glued down.  I've had mine down for a year through a winter and summer in North Texas, the coach is not kept conditioned. So far so good.  I don't know any manufacturer that provides RV warranty. I think it's buyer beware be careful. But obviously it's used in many RVs, so I think you're going to be happy with it. We have loved getting rid of the carpet in the main living area as we track in way too much junk.
1998 36 foot U270 Build No. 5328 WTFE, 900 watts solar, Victron controller, B2B, bat monitor, 600 AMPH lithium with 2018 Chevy Colorado toad, SKP #110239, Motorcade #17781, 2021 Escape 17B for when Coach is broken down and campsites are too small, retired and full-timer since Dec. 2020. Part of RV family since 1963.

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Reply #67
We got the floor finished and I wanted to share a couple pictures.  We're both really happy with the way it turned.
Hannah and Tyler Phillips
1993 U280 Grand Villa AKA Pearl
Basement Air
Cummins 6CT8.3
Build Number 4196

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Reply #68
A couple more
Hannah and Tyler Phillips
1993 U280 Grand Villa AKA Pearl
Basement Air
Cummins 6CT8.3
Build Number 4196

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Reply #69
I haven't taken any pictures in the last couple days but we have gotten all the furniture back in and a bead of color matched caulk around the perimeter.  We've also got rubber stair nose ordered for the entryway.
Hannah and Tyler Phillips
1993 U280 Grand Villa AKA Pearl
Basement Air
Cummins 6CT8.3
Build Number 4196

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Reply #70
Congratulations on a beautiful upgrade.
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Lynn & Marilyn Sickel
Tollville, AR
1997  U320  40'
2021 Chevrolet Silverado pickup
Motorcader  17257

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Reply #71
Congratulations on a beautiful upgrade.
Thank you, we really like it.  I feel kinda egotistical for saying so, but I'm really proud of the job that we did! :)
Hannah and Tyler Phillips
1993 U280 Grand Villa AKA Pearl
Basement Air
Cummins 6CT8.3
Build Number 4196

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Reply #72
That is a great looking floor! Nice job!!
Richard & Betty Bark & Keiko our Golden Doodle
2003 U320T 3820 PBDS
Build # 6215
MC # 16926
2016 Chevrolet Colorado 4X4 diesel

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Reply #73
We chose to go with 1/4" luan for underlayment and it comes in 4x8 sheets which made for some tricky cuts.  This one I am especially pleased with because it was really tricky but came out perfect on the first shot.
Hannah and Tyler Phillips
1993 U280 Grand Villa AKA Pearl
Basement Air
Cummins 6CT8.3
Build Number 4196

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Reply #74
Got some aluminum 90 at Lowes and cut it to fit around the toilet base. 
Hannah and Tyler Phillips
1993 U280 Grand Villa AKA Pearl
Basement Air
Cummins 6CT8.3
Build Number 4196