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Suffering ceiling stain!

Been putting off this little item that came with the coach. The hole was where the original tv antenna was, the PO added a dish and did a crappy job of sealing the roof (now repaired & water-tite) and it sure leaked, judging from the rot in the cover! Question is anyone have a clue what I should try to get the stain off? I've tried Isopropyl  alcohol and 'Oxi Clean to no avail. It's a bearcat to work on, but I'm sick of looking at it!  :headwall:  Thanks for any suggestions.
1993 U-240 "La Villa Grande"..CAT 3116 w/ Pacbrake PRXB...Allison 3060 6-speed..
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Reply #1
When my roof units leaked and left stains I used Resolve spray on carpet cleaner and the upholstery attachment on my Russell shampooer.
Spray,  let sit, upholstery attachment and repeat.
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Reply #2
Mike,
We used this product Folex stain remover.  We had a similar stain by the air conditioner.  It works great!  I bought it at Ace Hardware. I've seen at the Big Box Stores also.  It works like magic.  You can instantly see the stain disappear.
John & Carm Morales

"We travel not to go anywhere, but to just go.  We travel for travel's sake.  Our great desire is to move."

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Reply #3
You might try multiple applications of hydrogen peroxide in a spray bottle, letting it thoroughly dry between them.

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Reply #4
You might try multiple applications of hydrogen peroxide in a spray bottle, letting it thoroughly dry between them.
I'll try that, we've got a bottle on board. Wonder if it would work if I just used a toothbrush to scrub it in?
1993 U-240 "La Villa Grande"..CAT 3116 w/ Pacbrake PRXB...Allison 3060 6-speed..
Previous: 1983 Airstream 310 turbo diesel, 1979 Airstream 280 turbo diesel
                                      Build # 4297
                                      PNW natives
                      Home base:  'Cactus Hug' (Ajo, Arizona)
                        DW Judy & Chet the wonder dog
                        Full-Timers 'Sailing the asphalt sea'


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Sorry the owner between us removed the antenna and did such a poor job of sealing the roof.  But, living in AZ as he did, rain was probably not a big issue for him.

If using a toothbrush (never your own) be careful of changing the texture of the ozite.  Easy to snag and change the texture.

You have received several good suggestions on chemicals.  Experiment with each before getting "rough" with anything that would change the texture of the material.
Brett Wolfe
EX: 1993 U240
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Reply #7
You have received several good suggestions on chemicals.  Experiment with each before getting "rough" with anything that would change the texture of the material.
Ya, I'll try working the hole area that will be hidden by the wood cover. I super-glued the broken area and filled the rotten areas with epoxy. I'll rub some matching wood finish in and (hopefully) quit having a sore neck looking up!  ^.^d
1993 U-240 "La Villa Grande"..CAT 3116 w/ Pacbrake PRXB...Allison 3060 6-speed..
Previous: 1983 Airstream 310 turbo diesel, 1979 Airstream 280 turbo diesel
                                      Build # 4297
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                        DW Judy & Chet the wonder dog
                        Full-Timers 'Sailing the asphalt sea'

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Reply #8
Most important is to verify that the leak has been properly sealed from above!
Brett Wolfe
EX: 1993 U240
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Reply #9
If trying to remove the stain doesn't work, you can staple/glue some ozite over luan in a shape that will blend in with other ceiling items.

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Reply #10
I use a upholster cleaning machine, like a carpet cleaner. Works well.
Peter and Frieda Morin
1999 36ft. U320 Foretravel
Build # 5436
1998 Suzuki Sidekick Sport

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Reply #11
I'm with John. Stocked Folex at my Ace store. Works awesome! Told customers if they did not like it money back. Never gave back a dime.   
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Reply #12
Good subject. I've got an old stain from a previous owner by the Kool o matic vent. I'll give the Folex a try when I get back to the coach work.

Larry
Larry Warren
1996  U320 36' SBID "Lola" sold 2020
Build #4970
Motorcade #18318

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Reply #13
I'll try that, we've got a bottle on board. Wonder if it would work if I just used a toothbrush to scrub it in?

Mike, first just spray it on and see what happens. You can also use a hair dryer to speed up the drying process. Repetition is key. 
Resolve and others have peroxide as an ingredient.  I was introduced to it while in the screen printing business to remove scorch marks from white tee shirts that went through the dryer for too long, or at too high a temp. Hope it works for you.


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Reply #14
Expanding on what Bob McGee said, if cleaning doesn't work you might be able to remove the stained material and graft some new material into the bare spot.  The trick would be matching the color/texture close enough so it wouldn't be obvious to a casual observer.

Several years ago I scored some of the original white ceiling material from David Flanagan (FOT remodel shop) and have used it on several small projects in our coach, including covering the interior ceiling hole left from removing a old crank-up satellite dish.  It made a almost invisible patch.  However, it was just a small 2" diameter hole in the bathroom ceiling - not located in as visible a position as your damaged area.

The link below is to a place that sells what is supposedly Ozite material.  You can order samples from them to see how the color would match up to your ceiling.  In case you are interested in going that route...

6555 Ozite Ceiling / Headliner Carpet Geometric 72" Wide - Sand
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We bought a Bissell Pet Pro carpet cleaner for the coach about a year ago. It does wonders for the wool carpet and has a hose/nozzle/brush to reach the headliner or sofa/chair. With a little pre-treatment, it does an excellent job around the AC outlets where the ceiling carpet gets a little black. Lists for about $200 but we bought a refurbished like new model for just over $100 delivered. Easy to use. Amazon.com - BISSELL ProHeat 2X Revolution Pet Full Size Upright Carpet...

Pierce

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'93 U300/36 WTBI
Detroit 6V-92TA Jake
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Reply #16
Good subject. I've got an old stain from a previous owner by the Kool o matic vent. I'll give the Folex a try when I get back to the coach work.

Larry
Larry,
The Folex worked great.  You can control the spray better than the foam type cleaners.  When you spray it on the stain you will see the stain disappear before your eyes.  It doesn't hurt the color of the material or the adhesive.  With the Folex it says you don't have to rinse it.  I just had a bucket with hot water (as hot as you can handle it) and a sponge and rinsed it anyway. Let dry and your done.  I keep it handy in the laundry also for stains on our clothing.
John M.
John & Carm Morales

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The peroxide did not make a dent in the varnish stains, I just ordered a jug of Folex from Amazon (our local ACE did not stock it).I'll check back with any results.  ^.^d
1993 U-240 "La Villa Grande"..CAT 3116 w/ Pacbrake PRXB...Allison 3060 6-speed..
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                        Full-Timers 'Sailing the asphalt sea'

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Lowe's stocks Folex, they must have 24 bottles of it in our local one, if you are near a Lowe's you could give them a call, if they don't have it they will get it and there is no shipping if picked up at the store.
David & Emma Roche
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P.O. let my ceiling go and there was black at ac vents.. I mixed up a recepie I found from a pro talker on iTunes.. Got the black off around where ac's had been replaced then had to do the entire ceiling.. rented a rug dr and me and a boy I hired spent 4 hrs doing the ceiling and it looks good but shoulder muscles got to big for me. I will try a bottle of folex if I ever do that again.. Someone said MOT quoted 200.00.. I wouldn't do it for 200. Ceiling looks good but it should after near crippling 2 men.Why is it people on utube love to hear themselves jabber about nothing.
Dub McBride 1996 270



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Reply #22
I used denatured alcohol on the Ozite to get the paint overspray off the ceiling, when we removed the tv box. Have also used it to clean around the AC vents and kool O matic. It doesn't seem to bother the Ozite.
Bruce, Linda, and Macy
Zoey RIP 1/20/19
1999 U295 40' build #5400
2017 silver Jeep Wrangler, 1260 watts of solar on top
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Reply #23
I used denatured alcohol on the Ozite to get the paint overspray off the ceiling, when we removed the tv box. Have also used it to clean around the AC vents and kool O matic. It doesn't seem to bother the Ozite.
Tried it; NADA. It must be the wood finish that's caused the stain is heavy duty! I get the Folex on Fri. and give it a go.  ^.^d
1993 U-240 "La Villa Grande"..CAT 3116 w/ Pacbrake PRXB...Allison 3060 6-speed..
Previous: 1983 Airstream 310 turbo diesel, 1979 Airstream 280 turbo diesel
                                      Build # 4297
                                      PNW natives
                      Home base:  'Cactus Hug' (Ajo, Arizona)
                        DW Judy & Chet the wonder dog
                        Full-Timers 'Sailing the asphalt sea'

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Mike, be sure to report back. inquiring minds want to know :))
Larry Warren
1996  U320 36' SBID "Lola" sold 2020
Build #4970
Motorcade #18318