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Re: cheap coach

Reply #25
Sold dozens of marquis with 3176.  Some  are still being resold in 27 year old coaches I sold new. 
"Riding and rejoicing"
Bob
1997 U320 40' Mid entry, build 5132,  wtbi ce27, 4th owner
2007 Solara convertible
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Reply #26
Day and a half left on this 40 foot '93 U300 Detroit. At $8,300 now with 46 bidders. Flint, Texas coach. 1993 Foretravel Grand Villa | eBay

In the second photo, it looks as if the owner has moved the air intake to the top of the air cleaner compartment door. Can't think of any other reason for the three possible intakes in the door. Ideas?

Pierce
Pierce and Gaylie Stewart
'93 U300/36 WTBI
Detroit 6V-92TA Jake
1140 watts on the roof
SBFD (ret)

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Reply #27
I just talked to the seller of the '95 U300. The drive shaft is currently disconnected. My guess is it had to be towed it to where it is. Not a good sign. He said it came from a really good home where the people "really took care of it", but if that's the case why does it need service?
My thinking is that these auto people would have at least put a starting battery in it and connected the drive shaft if there wasn't a major problem.
1993 U225 Build #: 4285
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Honda CRV AWD
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Reply #28
Engine or trans issue for sure. Not going to be a steal for whoever buys it if the bidding stayed where it is now.
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
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Reply #29
Another good deal:    https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/611172359687052/?ref=feed_rhc
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Reply #30
OK, Mike-- welcome to a Texas saying: "THAT JUST AIN'T RITE".

BTW, the Caterpillar 3176 is a great engine, but as already posted the cast iron block and head with ALUMINUM SPACER BETWEEN are only fine if the coolant has been changed as it should be.  If not, electrolysis will have eaten the spacer.  Big $$.
Brett Wolfe
EX: 1993 U240
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Re: cheap coach

Reply #31
Might be a "good deal" for Mike....... I'll pass 🙄
 
Justin & Cathy Byrd
1995 U280 "Old Faithful"
36' Build #4673
C8.3 Cummins
Allison MD3060R 6 speed - retarder
Powertech 10KW  4cyl Kubota

Re: cheap coach

Reply #32
OK, Mike-- welcome to a Texas saying: "THAT JUST AIN'T RITE".

BTW, the Caterpillar 3176 is a great engine, but as already posted the cast iron block and head with ALUMINUM SPACER BETWEEN are only fine if the coolant has been changed as it should be.  If not, electrolysis will have eaten the spacer.  Big $$.

I'm on it; got some good advise from a old crusty sailor:    ***Changing Coolant-- A Step By Step Description***
1993 U-240 "La Villa Grande"..CAT 3116 w/ Pacbrake PRXB...Allison 3060 6-speed..
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                        DW Judy & Chet the wonder dog
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Reply #33
Has anyone run the numbers to see who owns it?
1988  40' Grand Villa Cat 3208t

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Reply #34
Has anyone run the numbers to see who owns it?
yes....no answer..mailbox is full.....and I can see why....!
Hans & Marjet
1995 U300 "Ben" (#4719)
3176B Cat,4060HD,Jake
SKP#139131
Motorcade#17579
2006 Honda Element (towed)

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Reply #35
Sold!  $10,210.00

OK.  Who bought it?

jk
Jack and Cathy
1992 U280 Unihome 36' Build #4034
Cummins 8.3 /  Allison MT647/ PacBrake
Apopka, FL / Barre Center, NY

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Reply #36
Hope it's a forum member that bought her,  I'm sure WE ALL want to know what was wrong with that beauty!
1993 U-240 "La Villa Grande"..CAT 3116 w/ Pacbrake PRXB...Allison 3060 6-speed..
Previous: 1983 Airstream 310 turbo diesel, 1979 Airstream 280 turbo diesel
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                      Home base:  'Cactus Hug' (Ajo, Arizona)
                        DW Judy & Chet the wonder dog
                        Full-Timers 'Sailing the asphalt sea'

Re: cheap coach

Reply #37
Keep an eye out for it at "Pops Rv"
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
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Reply #38

 :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:
1993 U-240 "La Villa Grande"..CAT 3116 w/ Pacbrake PRXB...Allison 3060 6-speed..
Previous: 1983 Airstream 310 turbo diesel, 1979 Airstream 280 turbo diesel
                                      Build # 4297
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                      Home base:  'Cactus Hug' (Ajo, Arizona)
                        DW Judy & Chet the wonder dog
                        Full-Timers 'Sailing the asphalt sea'


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Reply #40
Given all the work done (if proven by receipts) and the pics, it's worth a gander. I'd still have it inspected, but a good year, close to the last of our breed!  ^.^d
1993 U-240 "La Villa Grande"..CAT 3116 w/ Pacbrake PRXB...Allison 3060 6-speed..
Previous: 1983 Airstream 310 turbo diesel, 1979 Airstream 280 turbo diesel
                                      Build # 4297
                                      PNW natives
                      Home base:  'Cactus Hug' (Ajo, Arizona)
                        DW Judy & Chet the wonder dog
                        Full-Timers 'Sailing the asphalt sea'

Re: cheap coach

Reply #41
With the 5.9 engine and 4 speed trans. my opinion would be putting lipstick on a pig at that price.
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
Dream as if you will live forever. Live as if you will die today.  James Dean

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Reply #42
With the 5.9 engine and 4 speed trans. my opinion would be putting lipstick on a pig at that price.
You take 5 CBs off the asking and it would be in the ballpark from what I've seen on the market for a primo condition coach. Yes, the 4 speed is a drawback, I know nothing of the 5.9. I SURE like the floorplan!  ^.^d
1993 U-240 "La Villa Grande"..CAT 3116 w/ Pacbrake PRXB...Allison 3060 6-speed..
Previous: 1983 Airstream 310 turbo diesel, 1979 Airstream 280 turbo diesel
                                      Build # 4297
                                      PNW natives
                      Home base:  'Cactus Hug' (Ajo, Arizona)
                        DW Judy & Chet the wonder dog
                        Full-Timers 'Sailing the asphalt sea'

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Reply #43
Yes, asking price is high. 5.9 Cummins is excellent if possible timing cover pin issue has been address. Not expensive to do the modification.  This engine is in hundreds of thousands of PUs. Because of the engine size, not as much power in the mountains and not as much storage. If interested, you must take a look in person and then have it inspected.

Pierce
Pierce and Gaylie Stewart
'93 U300/36 WTBI
Detroit 6V-92TA Jake
1140 watts on the roof
SBFD (ret)

Re: cheap coach

Reply #44
Yes, a 1994 U225.  Indeed, check for "killer dowel pin" (do an internet search for it-- LOTS of posts). 230 HP

Also, need to check ride height, as that would be the torsilastic suspension.  U225 is lighter than the U240, but in the SBI layout that coach has, it is heavier than the SBID layout. No OE replacement torsilastic springs available, but some $$$ ones from Mexico.

Also, rear radiator not side.

IMO price is 2X market and higher than many nice "higher end" coaches.

It is a very good entry level coach if maintained.
Brett Wolfe
EX: 1993 U240
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Moderator Diesel RV Club 2002-
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Chairman FMCA Technical Advisory Committee 2011-2020

Re: cheap coach

Reply #45
Also, need to check ride height, as that would be the torsilastic suspension.  U225 is lighter than the U240, but in the SBI layout that coach has, it is heavier than the SBID layout. No OE replacement torsilastic springs available, but some $$$ ones from Mexico.
Also, rear radiator not side. It is a very good entry level coach if maintained.
Here's the after market company for torsilastic: Sulastic. ONE TORSILASTIC SPRING 4" x 4" X 36 3/4"
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                        DW Judy & Chet the wonder dog
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Reply #46
Yup, that is the company.  Owner lives in San Antonio.  He and his son drove over to League City and measured our coach/your coach for the prototype springs. 

Made in central Mexico at his factory there.

No, the ones in your coach are not Sulastic, they are B.F. Goodrich Torsilastic division 19,000 pound rear springs.  I worked with the engineers at Goodrich Aerospace division in Jacksonville FL to spec them out and picked them up there.

From that point forward, Foretravel switched all orders from 15 to 19k springs.  So, there are  a mix of coaches with OE and some with upgrades springs out there. If OE and 25+ year old rear springs, I would bet recommended ride height can not be achieved.

Fronts are OE.
Brett Wolfe
EX: 1993 U240
Moderator, ForeForum 2001-
Moderator Diesel RV Club 2002-
Moderator, FMCA Forum 2009-2020
Chairman FMCA Technical Advisory Committee 2011-2020

Re: cheap coach

Reply #47
I would bet recommended ride height can not be achieved
I had the chance a couple of years ago to be on a absolute flat pad and measured yours/ours: PERFECT!  ^.^d
1993 U-240 "La Villa Grande"..CAT 3116 w/ Pacbrake PRXB...Allison 3060 6-speed..
Previous: 1983 Airstream 310 turbo diesel, 1979 Airstream 280 turbo diesel
                                      Build # 4297
                                      PNW natives
                      Home base:  'Cactus Hug' (Ajo, Arizona)
                        DW Judy & Chet the wonder dog
                        Full-Timers 'Sailing the asphalt sea'

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Reply #48
If I remember correctly the new springs are made in Leon Mexico. I am sure that someone going there would be able to get them a lot cheaper direct from factory. I found the location of the plant a few years ago and planned on going to get a set for my Brother's coach but got sidelined with other stuff. The rubber they use is recycled and they make a multitude of mounts for different things.
JohnH
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Reply #49
This cutie is still for sale on FB, I believe:  https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2328324554099447/?ref=feed_rhc
1993 U-240 "La Villa Grande"..CAT 3116 w/ Pacbrake PRXB...Allison 3060 6-speed..
Previous: 1983 Airstream 310 turbo diesel, 1979 Airstream 280 turbo diesel
                                      Build # 4297
                                      PNW natives
                      Home base:  'Cactus Hug' (Ajo, Arizona)
                        DW Judy & Chet the wonder dog
                        Full-Timers 'Sailing the asphalt sea'