Puerto Penasco full body paint and upholstery recover

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Reply #25 – January 30, 2020, 10:37:02 pm

February 2021 is my plan on getting the coach repainted there. Roof too. Might bring my own paint. We will see.

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Reply #26 – January 30, 2020, 11:21:54 pm

Mexico repaints a lot of our airliners as well as manufacturing a lot of our cars. The general aviation aircraft being made in Chapala had great paint and as you know, most aircraft sit outside for most of their lives so the paint has to be pretty good. Especially the reds. Might be worth a facebook message. Painters can usually get deals on paint that outsiders can't or in other words, they get the same paint cheaper than we can.

You are probably thinking of Imron. An outstanding aircraft paint or for anything that needs to look good for a long time. It's made by a Philadelphia based company Axalta and made all over the world with several plants in Mexico. Also plants in Germany and China.
Axalta Invests in Mexico

I've done a couple of partials on aircraft and my Fiat 850. Did our firewall and the inside of our engine cowling a couple of years ago. It resists most chemicals and does not seem to oxidize. It dries shiny and very hard. Not good to color sand and buff.

Pierce

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Reply #27 – January 30, 2020, 11:54:59 pm

Quote from: Pierce & Gaylie Stewart – January 30, 2020, 11:21:54 pm

Mexico repaints a lot of our airliners as well as manufacturing a lot of our cars. The general aviation aircraft being made in Chapala had great paint and as you know, most aircraft sit outside for most of their lives so the paint has to be pretty good. Especially the reds. Might be worth a facebook message. Painters can usually get deals on paint that outsiders can't or in other words, they get the same paint cheaper than we can.

You are probably thinking of Imron. An outstanding aircraft paint or for anything that needs to look good for a long time. It's made by a Philadelphia based company Axalta and made all over the world with several plants in Mexico. Also plants in Germany and China.
Axalta Invests in Mexico

I've done a couple of partials on aircraft and my Fiat 850. Did our firewall and the inside of our engine cowling a couple of years ago. It resists most chemicals and does not seem to oxidize. It dries shiny and very hard. Not good to color sand and buff.

Pierce

I tried to buy Imron here in California and it is no longer sold here.

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Reply #28 – January 31, 2020, 01:15:20 am

Dub and Ron,

Maybe we can take him three coaches!

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Reply #29 – January 31, 2020, 10:41:03 am

Chuck,

You may have to buy it online. Axalta makes it now but they may be still controlled by Dupont. It's the only thing that Gary will use at the hanger and I think he gets it all online. We only spray white. This is about the same white as Foretravel uses.

imron paint | eBay

Imron has a couple of things that make it difficult to use unless you are a pro. The hardener is super expensive at about $215/quart, you need a suit and an outside air source for your full head mask unless you want to risk lung damage or worse and unless you shoot it all the time, there is a fine line to getting it on nice and flat without any sags and too dry with orange peel. And if it has peel and you want to sand and buff it later, good luck.

Here is a quote that pretty much says it all:

Imron has undergone many changes over the years, from regular Imron to Imron 3.5 to Imron 2000 to Imron 5000 to Imron base clear 6000 to the new Imron Elite, Imron is used by most truck manufactures today, there is 70% market share which shows it's bigger today then ever, howevr the car guys find it very hard to use, and very expensive, with aftermarket companies selling a gallon of paint for $80 a gallon most wont pay $3-$500 a gallon for Imron, we try to explain that Imron would last forever and the cheap stuff just a couple of years but most are blind to value when faced with dollars out of pocket

If you shoot it outside, perhaps, that's perhaps the health risk MAY be less so most don't use a body suit. Gary is old school and shoots in the hanger with just a fan on. I clear out for hours when he does that.

The paint does not seem to have an expiration date so all the Imron I've seen has a Dupont label on it. It is MUCH cheaper if you find it on ebay but finding enough for a complete on a coach might be difficult. Others also use different hardeners as they are quite a bit cheaper.

Everyone seems to be going to water based paint now. Easy clean up, relatively cheap. Not sure how long the clearcoat lasts in the sun though. But, even the water based paint uses nasty catalyst so protection is necessary. That's part of the reason you can't buy the catalyst for some waterbased paint in California or if you can, they want you to roll it and not spray it.

Pierce

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Reply #30 – January 31, 2020, 07:47:58 pm

I just got back from the airport where Gary said that it's not a problem to ship Imron to California from HQ in Philadelphia. Gary's aircraft fabricator uses Imron commercial white and our electric utility, PG&E uses commercial white on all their buckets that work on the telephone poles. He said the cost is about $100/gal. Will post when I find out more.

Pierce

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Reply #31 – January 31, 2020, 08:55:26 pm

It would be funny to see this on the front of a coach. But, some people will not get it. Different generation.

Then on the front window shade when drawn down, have the roadrunner with a train hat driving .

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Reply #32 – January 31, 2020, 09:10:54 pm

I get it Bleep bleep!

I have a small dog, real roadrunner and she are a hoot to watch! The roadrunner using vegetation and terrain. The dog using eyes. The transition from running to flight ends with dog just standing "saying which way did she go".

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Reply #33 – January 31, 2020, 09:56:10 pm

Somebody is going to put paint on mine this spring..Have Zero cracking but my colors bore me..

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Reply #34 – February 01, 2020, 04:09:31 am

I was thinking marine based 2 part epoxy paint like Interlux perfection or Allcraft. You can spray it but like the other epoxy based paint it can be deadly to lungs and heart. But it can be rolled and tipped with much less potential for harm and still get good results.
As they say much is in the prep work.also want the roof done with a non skid added. I have a good design in mind that should be easy to paint. What about a custom mural on the rear? How much does that set you back? A nice mountain scene would be cool.

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Reply #35 – February 01, 2020, 08:38:30 am

If you need a quote just send info to Antonio by FBook or call or text and he will give you a quote. Very nice guy to work with

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Reply #36 – February 01, 2020, 10:14:10 am

Do you have any idea you will be there first couple weeks of June Twig?

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Reply #37 – February 01, 2020, 06:47:05 pm

Awnings removed, everything masked and ready for primer. They started Monday and have been sanding on it since Tuesday. They also are removing all caulk and replacing.

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Reply #38 – February 01, 2020, 07:13:19 pm

Quote from: Tommy D – February 01, 2020, 06:47:05 pm

Awnings removed, everything masked and ready for primer. They started Monday and have been sanding on it since Tuesday.

Looking great! My jealous heart

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Reply #39 – February 02, 2020, 02:12:00 pm

John H,
Thanks for info on insurance, it will be useful for my next visit

Here is the paint scheme we have chosen and Antonio sent a picture of him trying out his projector. Pretty interesting, he projects it onto RV then I assume he traces the pattern and then will paint. Very excited to see how it will turn out!

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Reply #40 – February 02, 2020, 04:13:56 pm

Tommy, you will have one GV that you can be so proud of! Can't wait to see the finish product!

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Reply #41 – February 02, 2020, 04:45:54 pm

John, are the toll booth operators still on strike? The only bad part is when they are on strike, NO RECEIPT.

Tommy, if you can, find out what kind of paint he is using on your coach. Both base coat and clear. Made in Mexico or?

Pierce

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Reply #42 – February 02, 2020, 05:40:45 pm

Pierce, attached is the base coat. Waiting on clear coat info.

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Reply #43 – February 02, 2020, 05:46:21 pm

If anyone is interested, I have the factory white paint mixing chart from when ours was done.

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Reply #44 – February 03, 2020, 02:27:18 pm

Is anyone going to be in Puerto Penasco the end of may to first of June that has been there and done it with the painters..Thinking of using Antonio Geraldo and hate to drive up being as dumb as I seem.

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Reply #45 – February 03, 2020, 05:06:52 pm

Take a look at some of the Murals that Antonio has done. The one with the vehicle gives you some perspective on the size. He did all these in the same parking lot with an extension ladder. Amazing talent.

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Reply #46 – February 03, 2020, 06:07:08 pm

Excuse my ignorance but how does one go about the initial contact and planning / estimating with Antonio? Does he have a backlog?

I am sold on this lower cost option. If I understood correctly does he also does fiberglass repair as part of the full body paint?

I would love to see the in progress updates. I do have a little concern with leaving the coach outside of the US. Although from reading here this fear is not really shared. Has anyone had an unfortunate incident leaving the coach in Mexico for work like this?

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Reply #47 – February 03, 2020, 07:28:51 pm

Thanks.. sending you a pm.rworley

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Reply #48 – February 03, 2020, 07:36:37 pm

See answer #21 for contact info of Antonio Geraldo (painter/artist) and David Munoz for upholstery

Facebook contact through messenger here
https://www.facebook.com/antonio.geraldo.3?fref=search&__tn__=%2Cd%2CP-R&eid=ARAPxQHwaLJspXKnqT0E-EuC2yPd4cgsr1Fe_N_hkxAkHZWFoCuWGLW3iQeUCfZ54UixGQkqng8wSxLS

Eric, I sent photos of all damage and pictures of what I wanted it to look like through FB messenger only because my phone service doesn't work outside the US. Antonio responds promptly. He said his slow time is August, September & first 2 weeks of October.

I would be happy to talk with anyone and share what I have experienced just send me a message with your # and best time to contact.

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Reply #49 – February 03, 2020, 07:39:16 pm

I copied the phone numbers and email you listed Tommy. Thanks.

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