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Re: Been looking for a foretravel for a long time! Years -- Found a 1986 I'm 99% on

Reply #25
Going to send you a PM for a checklist I developed. Haven't got a chance to verify it. It was initially developed for a 2014 to 2019 IH45, so you will have to look beyond that and use what you can. Let me know your opinion on it.
Larry
Future Foretravel Owners
2019 Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk
Retired USAF, Retired DOD Civ's
FAA A&P, Indust. Eng., Acft Depot Lvl. Maint.
Larry and Becky Rountree

Re: Been looking for a foretravel for a long time! Years -- Found a 1986 I'm 99% on

Reply #26
Please PM me at master2301@cox.net.  Couldn't upload doc on PM.
Future Foretravel Owners
2019 Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk
Retired USAF, Retired DOD Civ's
FAA A&P, Indust. Eng., Acft Depot Lvl. Maint.
Larry and Becky Rountree

Re: Been looking for a foretravel for a long time! Years -- Found a 1986 I'm 99% on

Reply #27
Look for sidewall bubbles. Soft floor down the hallway.  Walk the roof.  Make every button and switch work.

I sold and sales managed a Foretravel store when this was new.

Everything but the fuel gauge not working is fixable
"Riding and rejoicing"
Bob
1997 U320 40' Mid entry, build 5132,  wtbi ce27, 4th owner
2007 Solara convertible
2 prodeco tech outlaw ss electric bikes

1095 watts solar
08 Ls 460 and a sc430
2000 Ford F-250 superduty 4x4

Re: Been looking for a foretravel for a long time! Years -- Found a 1986 I'm 99% on

Reply #28
Take the time to learn all you can from PO about the brakes. Operation, adjustment. Spring brakes and operation in both directions. He knows what you need too. Sound like a good deal. Hands on as much as possible. How to drain and winterize. Enjoy and congratulations.
Scott

Re: Been looking for a foretravel for a long time! Years -- Found a 1986 I'm 99% on

Reply #29
Look for sidewall bubbles. Soft floor down the hallway.  Walk the roof.  Make every button and switch work.

I sold and sales managed a Foretravel store when this was new.

Everything but the fuel gauge not working is fixable
Wow, that's hilarious. The fuel gauge is the one thing!? Hahaha.

It's speedo/rpm gauge issues that I know of, so far. I'll have to hunt for parts immediately.

Thanks again for all your support.

Re: Been looking for a foretravel for a long time! Years -- Found a 1986 I'm 99% on

Reply #30
Wow, that's hilarious. The fuel gauge is the one thing!? Hahaha.

It's speedo/rpm gauge issues that I know of, so far. I'll have to hunt for parts immediately.

Thanks again for all your support.
Our 1986 FT Grand Villa has the original dash.  FT installed the electronic bar graph dash from the 1985 Dodge Daytona    We lost use of the dash some time ago.  We installed a engine temp and oil pressure gauges and we use a GPS speed and odometer app.  We refuel every 400 miles on our gas 454 Chevy motor.
1986 Grand Villa, 454 Chevrolet, 33 SBI tag axle
Build # 2658
2nd owner, original owner was Newman/Freeman Racing, racer Bill Freeman and actor/racer Paul Newman

Re: Been looking for a foretravel for a long time! Years -- Found a 1986 I'm 99% on

Reply #31
When you get time, take a peek under the water tank to verify that it hasnt broken out of the  glass floor.

Re: Been looking for a foretravel for a long time! Years -- Found a 1986 I'm 99% on

Reply #32
I wasn't going to post but, I keep on seeing all these signs about this coach, then you make comments how you like the one in Texas, it is cool, just my opinion and I've looked at many Foretravel's and I hate to say it everyone else has been positive. Me personally I would not buy it, it's not the year you wanted, has many issues. I just have seen way to many nicer coaches for the money being spent. You are already having regrets when you haven't bought it yet, making comments about the 4 cabinets. I think you need to walk away, it's a learning experience. I don't think your satisfied. I see it all the time people get excited and buy and it wasn't the right decision. In the end it's your decision. It is OK to walk away. I've said my peace, now it's off my chest, Lol.
John Hobbs
1995 U300 SE
M11 / Retarder
Private toilet
1 of 1
Wichita, Ks

Re: Been looking for a foretravel for a long time! Years -- Found a 1986 I'm 99% on

Reply #33
If you consider all the money and upgrades the seller put in it and the seller is taking care of the costs to fix the engine problem. I don't think some issues make it a bad coach. If it were here I would buy it and sell my '81
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
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Re: Been looking for a foretravel for a long time! Years -- Found a 1986 I'm 99% on

Reply #34
Anyone reading this thread can feel your excitement! We've all been there and there is nothing like buying your first Foretravel. I hope it all works out, looks like a great coach. I like the countertops!
1993 U300 40ft GV SE
Build # 4344

Re: Been looking for a foretravel for a long time! Years -- Found a 1986 I'm 99% on

Reply #35
I wasn't going to post but, I keep on seeing all these signs about this coach, then you make comments how you like the one in Texas, it is cool, just my opinion and I've looked at many Foretravel's and I hate to say it everyone else has been positive. Me personally I would not buy it, it's not the year you wanted, has many issues. I just have seen way to many nicer coaches for the money being spent. You are already having regrets when you haven't bought it yet, making comments about the 4 cabinets. I think you need to walk away, it's a learning experience. I don't think your satisfied. I see it all the time people get excited and buy and it wasn't the right decision. In the end it's your decision. It is OK to walk away. I've said my peace, now it's off my chest, Lol.

Ohhh no the Texas one is definitely not cool that crazy color! I do like the layouts that have space in front of the kitchen. Perfect is the enemy of done though.

I'm super happy with my experience here it has been amazing. The owner is awesome, I've inspected it for so long due to the prime problem, driven around to peterbilt, cat, rv shop inspection hearing all their feedback. I've been in it like 50 hours already. Sure they could all know the owner and could be some long con, but hey I gotta draw the line on the suspicion. This forum has been great and is a huge part of the reason as well.

Oddly the *experience* of buying this RV has already been a great adventure. How fun to not know your next day!

I appreciate the feedback because an echo chamber is not good, and a healthy "are you friggin sure" is very healthy. I can easily see myself feeling too committed when in reality all bets are off until you sign.

I'll never be sure... I think it will always be a dice roll, but the cards are lining up really well with my gut, my life situation/timing, my risk tolerance (what if A breaks, what can I sell it for, what if engine is a dud, what does that cost, etc.)

The main reason I'm wavering is basically, I've never had a class A. It has limited places it can go. This thing has a huge wheelbase and barely turns. I'm worried about parking it, a lot. I did drive it and park it well, in a truck stop. But I have to back it into my destination lot in Portland. Whooo.

I think another member said it amazingly: "you'll wonder what the heck you've just done", and I think I'll feel exactly that, and I don't see a way around it. Now, it's the roll of the dice!

Re: Been looking for a foretravel for a long time! Years -- Found a 1986 I'm 99% on

Reply #36
Most present owners have had similar feelings but a while after sitting in the seat driving it you all of a sudden feel like you have been driving it for ages.
It will grow on you fast.
Johnh
Coachless, now use aircraft. 2003 Ford Travelair TC280 class C. Super shape. Just for 1 yr .
1994 Ford E350 ClassC,total renovation inside and out. Now sold.
2000 U295  36' Cummins 350 c/w Banks Stinger, Resonator upgrade,Solar, LED lites.Residential fridge with slide out pantry. Build 5674. Sold
ex 92 GV 022C ored Cummins. Sold
ex 95 GV240 cat 3116. Sold
2017 Mini cooper s & 2016 land Rover LR2 HSE  LUX.
jhaygarth@aol.com    SKP #130098
treat everyone as you would like to be.

Re: Been looking for a foretravel for a long time! Years -- Found a 1986 I'm 99% on

Reply #37
Ohhh no the Texas one is definitely not cool that crazy color! I do like the layouts that have space in front of the kitchen. Perfect is the enemy of done though.

I'm super happy with my experience here it has been amazing. The owner is awesome, I've inspected it for so long due to the prime problem, driven around to peterbilt, cat, rv shop inspection hearing all their feedback. I've been in it like 50 hours already. Sure they could all know the owner and could be some long con, but hey I gotta draw the line on the suspicion. This forum has been great and is a huge part of the reason as well.

Oddly the *experience* of buying this RV has already been a great adventure. How fun to not know your next day!

I appreciate the feedback because an echo chamber is not good, and a healthy "are you friggin sure" is very healthy. I can easily see myself feeling too committed when in reality all bets are off until you sign.

I'll never be sure... I think it will always be a dice roll, but the cards are lining up really well with my gut, my life situation/timing, my risk tolerance (what if A breaks, what can I sell it for, what if engine is a dud, what does that cost, etc.)

The main reason I'm wavering is basically, I've never had a class A. It has limited places it can go. This thing has a huge wheelbase and barely turns. I'm worried about parking it, a lot. I did drive it and park it well, in a truck stop. But I have to back it into my destination lot in Portland. Whooo.

I think another member said it amazingly: "you'll wonder what the heck you've just done", and I think I'll feel exactly that, and I don't see a way around it. Now, it's the roll of the dice!
If you have spent 50 hours in the coach ... you have spent about 45 more hours than we did when we bought our 86 Grand Villa.  We found it on line.  Spoke to the dealer to confirm the Paul Newman Racing Team ownership and we made flight reservations to San Diego.  Never owning an RV ever.  We took Uber to the dealership.  Met the selling owner and spent some time with the dealership service staff to learn about the coach.  We left after lunch .. filled up at first gas station and drove 1300 miles back to Boulder CO without any mechanical issues.... we have owned now for 2 1/2 years and would not trade our coach for another one yet.  We lost an alternator on one holiday trip.  Had two blowouts on another trip but its part of the road trip experiences.... now we have had all coach and engine mechanicals checked ad maintained and we LOVE our vintage Foretravel Grand Villa....
1986 Grand Villa, 454 Chevrolet, 33 SBI tag axle
Build # 2658
2nd owner, original owner was Newman/Freeman Racing, racer Bill Freeman and actor/racer Paul Newman

Re: Been looking for a foretravel for a long time! Years -- Found a 1986 I'm 99% on

Reply #38
If you have spent 50 hours in the coach ... you have spent about 45 more hours than we did when we bought our 86 Grand Villa.  We found it on line.  Spoke to the dealer to confirm the Paul Newman Racing Team ownership and we made flight reservations to San Diego.  Never owning an RV ever.  We took Uber to the dealership.  Met the selling owner and spent some time with the dealership service staff to learn about the coach.  We left after lunch .. filled up at first gas station and drove 1300 miles back to Boulder CO without any mechanical issues.... we have owned now for 2 1/2 years and would not trade our coach for another one yet.  We lost an alternator on one holiday trip.  Had two blowouts on another trip but its part of the road trip experiences.... now we have had all coach and engine mechanicals checked ad maintained and we LOVE our vintage Foretravel Grand Villa....

You have a same aged coach! Cool! I hope we can meet up one day! I'm always worried about chassis in general -- when buying used cars. Latest concern was buying one of the post 7.3L PowerStrokes.. will it blow up? So I went with the 7.3..

I would like more time on the chassis. Hmm.

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Reply #39
The main reason I'm wavering is basically, I've never had a class A. It has limited places it can go. This thing has a huge wheelbase and barely turns. I'm worried about parking it, a lot. I did drive it and park it well, in a truck stop. But I have to back it into my destination lot in Portland. Whooo.
The size can be intimidating at first - there's no question about that.  But as John says, it doesn't tale long to acclimate.

Early in the learning curve, it is best if you are not feeling pressured or pushed for time, especially when driving in heavy traffic or backing into tight spots.  You need to take your time...try to plan ahead as much as possible.  Try to avoid getting yourself into embarrassing situations where you feel a sense of panic.  If you do - stay calm - think about the easiest way out.  If necessary, stop, get out of the coach, and look at the situation from ground level.  I've been halfway through tight turns where I was SURE I wasn't gonna make it.  Once I got out and looked, it became obvious I had more than enough room to complete the turn.

I have found the satellite view on Google Earth to be a great help in navigating strange locations.  If I am planning on pulling into a truck stop, or a RV park, or any place where it might get "tight" I will find a quiet spot to pull off the road before I get there.  Then I take a "bird's eye" look at the destination, trying to decide how best to get in and out.  I look for places where I might have a problem, like really tight turns or dead-end roads with no outlet.  If you have a metal picture in your head of how you are going to proceed, then you'll have a lot more confidence when you arrive.

I would make getting a back-up camera system installed a high priority.  The rear view camera is VERY helpful when backing up.
1993 U280 SE 40' WTBI, Build: 4359
C8.3 300hp, 6-Speed, Exhaust Brake
960 watts on the roof (6 x 160)
Sorento (or BOLT) on a Kar Kaddy SS
"Nature abhors a vacuum"

Re: Been looking for a foretravel for a long time! Years -- Found a 1986 I'm 99% on

Reply #40
The size can be intimidating at first - there's no question about that.  But as John says, it doesn't tale long to acclimate.

Early in the learning curve, it is best if you are not feeling pressured or pushed for time, especially when driving in heavy traffic or backing into tight spots.  You need to take your time...try to plan ahead as much as possible.  Try to avoid getting yourself into embarrassing situations where you feel a sense of panic.  If you do - stay calm - think about the easiest way out.  If necessary, stop, get out of the coach, and look at the situation from ground level.  I've been halfway through tight turns where I was SURE I wasn't gonna make it.  Once I got out and looked, it became obvious I had more than enough room to complete the turn.

I have found the satellite view on Google Earth to be a great help in navigating strange locations.  If I am planning on pulling into a truck stop, or a RV park, or any place where it might get "tight" I will find a quiet spot to pull off the road before I get there.  Then I take a "bird's eye" look at the destination, trying to decide how best to get in and out.  I look for places where I might have a problem, like really tight turns or dead-end roads with no outlet.  If you have a metal picture in your head of how you are going to proceed, then you'll have a lot more confidence when you arrive.

I would make getting a back-up camera system installed a high priority.  The rear view camera is VERY helpful when backing up.

Fighting the panic if people are honking etc., sounds critical. That's when mistakes are made! I've been mentally preparing for that. The PO mentioned something like: don't even look at the other cars if you're in that situation and focus on what you need to do.

Oh I've been staring at my destination on google maps :) It would be SO nice to have a birds eye camera system. I have the parts for one in the garage.. Maybe I'll finally get to using it? They seem impossible to install, but imagine being able to see! I remember seeing one, and you could tell if there's a log or a turd next to your rear right wheel.

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Reply #41
The PO mentioned something like: don't even look at the other cars if you're in that situation and focus on what you need to do.
I received very similar advice.

The gentleman I bought our coach from took me for a test drive.  I asked him what if I did something stupid and looked like a idiot in front of all the other (car) drivers.  He said "Who cares!  You'll never ever meet any of those people again so don't worry about what they think of you".
1993 U280 SE 40' WTBI, Build: 4359
C8.3 300hp, 6-Speed, Exhaust Brake
960 watts on the roof (6 x 160)
Sorento (or BOLT) on a Kar Kaddy SS
"Nature abhors a vacuum"

Re: Been looking for a foretravel for a long time! Years -- Found a 1986 I'm 99% on

Reply #42
I received very similar advice.

The gentleman I bought our coach from took me for a test drive.  I asked him what if I did something stupid and looked like a idiot in front of all the other (car) drivers.  He said "Who cares!  You'll never ever meet any of those people again so don't worry about what they think of you".

It's funny we're even worried about looking stupid. That's stupid!