Re: Are Foretravel Owners Nose Blind? Reply #40 – August 19, 2020, 10:11:11 am Bounder? Quote Selected
Re: Are Foretravel Owners Nose Blind? Reply #41 – August 19, 2020, 11:07:54 am I don't think any of them are going to fair very well once you run em down in a ditch, then slide em down the road in their side. That going to junk em. Quote Selected
Re: Are Foretravel Owners Nose Blind? Reply #42 – August 19, 2020, 11:17:16 am Close proximity of the chassis after upset looks like it got tired of hanging on the coach and flopped off. Quote Selected
Re: Are Foretravel Owners Nose Blind? Reply #43 – August 19, 2020, 12:03:34 pm The cabin looks fairly intact and square. Not a complete failure .IMHO Quote Selected
Re: Are Foretravel Owners Nose Blind? Reply #44 – August 19, 2020, 12:58:54 pm We sold our 1995 33' Pace Arrow for a 2008 36' Mobile Suites fifth wheel, had it for seven years, and bought our 1997 40' Foretravel.The Pace Arrow is two trim lines above the Bounder. Bounder, Southwind, Pace Arrow.The Pace Arrow retailed around $70K during the same period our Foretravel retailed at $340K. A Bounder probably hasn't gone for more than $40K after it left the dealers' lot. Fleetwood did make a DP Bounder, but not in the 90's. Those were all gassers.We bought the Pace Arrow off Ebay for about $14K because we couldn't afford both a big pickup and a fifth wheel. We needed to do something because my elderly wife (in her early 40s) couldn't sleep well on the 4" mattress and canvas walled bed in our pop-up anymore. We had to replace the supplementary air bags (the front of the Pace Arrow had coil springs with an air bag in them), the tires, shocks, refrigerator, water pump, and exhaust manifold. To work on the engine, you had to lay on the floor inside and reach around to the front of the engine from the dog house (the interior hood of the engine).Camping in a trailer bolted to a UPS delivery truck chassis is a different experience than a Foretravel. They're not even in the same class. Foretravel wasn't even in the same class as most diesel pushers of the time. I refer to it as a $200K motorhome with $140K of options.As noted in other posts, the Foretravel is kicking our butts in upgrades and "deferred maintenance". I miss the popup for it simplcity. I probably had about $10K in the Pace Arrow for total cost of ownership over five years. I think we hit $10K in the Foretravel within five months. I don't miss the Pace Arrow. It was overloaded, drove like the steering was connected with bungie cords, the interior was tight with no slides (our no slide Foretravel has MUCH more room), I hated working on it, and it had the rotten green switch (parking brake pump valve), which I've changed out on the side of a busy road. Ever had your parking brake apply at 60MPH? Not fun.We had great times in it, but it wasn't a keeper. For a mid-90s camper at $40K, you want a keeper.A mid-90s Bounder for $40K. Naw. I bet you can find them all day for $4K. Quote Selected
Re: Are Foretravel Owners Nose Blind? Reply #45 – August 19, 2020, 01:40:56 pm Quote from: trailertrashrick – August 19, 2020, 12:58:54 pmA mid-90s Bounder for $40K. Naw. I bet you can find them all day for $4K.I'm going to eat my words here. They're much higher than they used to be, but still not $40K. Not $4K either, though. Quote Selected
Re: Are Foretravel Owners Nose Blind? Reply #46 – August 19, 2020, 03:49:26 pm Quote from: craneman – August 10, 2020, 04:03:45 pmMy brother and I have a saying "just about everybody buys a Bounder, once" Like the old Pace Arrows from the 70'sMine was a Southwind. Quote Selected
Re: Are Foretravel Owners Nose Blind? Reply #47 – August 19, 2020, 03:58:51 pm Quote from: Tom Lang – August 10, 2020, 05:07:42 pmSo why not just sell your Foretravel and trade up to a Bounder? Do whatever makes you happy. I'm very happy with my 2003 U295. No bulkhead issues. No fastener issues, Thetford sewer fittings used to be on high end rvs only, including my Revcon. Used to be you'd buy the ends and hose separately and assemble yourself. You still can. Or buy an adapter. If you want to use readymade hoses. I find the water fill valve very easy to reach while sitting on the commode. It's right there under the sink.TomYou had a Revcon? Did it have the poop burner upgrade? I was chassis shop Forman 70-71. Everyone quit and went to work across the freeway in Fountain Valley to Hall GTC new plant.Original owners of Revcon, started it.I moved to Nor Cal, started my Van shop when it got ugly around there.We had a jingle we sang to the Micky Mouse jingle...... "R_E_V_C_O_N M_O_U_S_E"And yes, they had a option that took black tank water along with the tank trout, and plumbed it into the exhaust. It worked. Installed several!Still have a brochure/book of a tour through the factory. Quote Selected
Re: Are Foretravel Owners Nose Blind? Reply #48 – August 19, 2020, 04:03:44 pm Bet that exaust smelled like crap. Quote Selected
Re: Are Foretravel Owners Nose Blind? Reply #49 – August 19, 2020, 04:08:54 pm Quote from: craneman – August 10, 2020, 05:32:55 pmYou are correct about them being bottom of the barrel, but price sucks some in, but only once.Sir, I need to correct you. Georgie Boy was the bottom of the barrel. Trust me, I took a factory tour as a tech. We sold them for a short period at the Coeur D Alene FT store. Chris Quote Selected
Re: Are Foretravel Owners Nose Blind? Reply #50 – August 19, 2020, 04:55:49 pm We had a selection of "seconds" over the years,Southwind a rattling piece of junk but it slept 8, had the thetford 55 gal can with a galaxy on top.Winnebago can't say much more than it was so rudimentary it felt like camping in a shed. Chrysler motor made it go like !Tioga Class C bottom feeder.Holiday Rambler straight pull trailer, underneath fully skirted in aluminum, jacks built in, automatically counter braked to arrest truck induced sway. Quality product all the way.Foretravel GV top of the heap by a long way. Quote Selected