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Reply #125 – December 12, 2020, 12:11:56 am

You just move a tiny switch that is either one direction or another. Just like a long code. 1 up 1 down etc just like the original.
I have not done it but think looking at picture that is what you do.
John

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Reply #126 – December 12, 2020, 12:14:01 am

Pulled off internet
Manual
https://dynagen.ca/sites/default/files/Support%20Files/MAN-0001R5.0,%20ES52%20User%20Manual.pdf

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Reply #127 – December 12, 2020, 09:53:07 am

Quote from: GleamB – December 11, 2020, 11:54:32 pm

How do you set your dip switches?

With a tooth pick. That red thing with the white switches is called a dual in-line package. Use a toothpick to firmly but gently move the switches onto the proper position. Check what you have done. Go have a cup of coffee, and check again when you return.

Using the jpeg provided by Master2301, Switches 1, 2, and 3 as a set, allow you to choose the number of times your generator's engine tries to start, that is to say from 1 to 6 times. Cranking time set by adjustment #3 Crank Rest. Be gentle when you turn the screw because those are delicate ceramic potentiometers.

Switches 4 and 5 taken as a pair choose a high or low range of adjustment for pots (1) crank disconnect and (2) crank overspeed in generator Hertz.

Switch 6 gives you the option of seizing up your engine by running it without oil pressure. Or not.

Switch 7 and 8, ask someone else but my guess would be off, off for glowplugs if you have a diesel engine'd generator.

Switch 9 protects your starter if the starting battery is low in charge.

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Reply #128 – December 12, 2020, 01:42:56 pm

I just looked at the back of my ES52 and do NOT see any red thing with switches.I looked at Tommy's post #61, and will look again.
I , also, checked the fuse between the two relays
It was good
I fear I need a new ES 52, which Jeff said is an ES 52F.....I googled this and found nothing
Jeff told me that the new ES52, from Power Tech, would be " plug and play"
Now I'm concerned if I order from ASAP, I might have a problem
Too much money at stake, here.
What should I do?

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Reply #129 – December 12, 2020, 02:26:13 pm

Glenn the only difference would be Jeff setting the dip switches which you can do yourself by looking at the one you remove. There is only one manufacturer of the unit.

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Reply #130 – December 12, 2020, 05:12:35 pm

Roger, that
Thanks!

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Reply #131 – December 12, 2020, 06:34:01 pm

Quote from: GleamB – December 12, 2020, 01:42:56 pm

I just looked at the back of my ES52 and do NOT see any red thing with switches.I looked at Tommy's post #61, and will look again.
I , also, checked the fuse between the two relays
It was good
I fear I need a new ES 52, which Jeff said is an ES 52F.....I googled this and found nothing
Jeff told me that the new ES52, from Power Tech, would be " plug and play"
Now I'm concerned if I order from ASAP, I might have a problem
Too much money at stake, here.
What should I do?

The ES52-F may not have the DIP switches, instead being hardwired for your generator engine combination.

ES52 CONTROLLER | eBay

DynaGen ES52 Auto-Start Generator Controller | Aurora Generators

ES52 Auto Start Module For Generator, Engine | Generator Parts | ASAP

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Reply #132 – December 12, 2020, 07:01:40 pm

All those links are the same controller. The mention on pre set is for the 60 cyc. of our generators.

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Reply #133 – December 12, 2020, 07:37:38 pm

So, I take it I would be ok to buy the less expensive ES52 and not regret the decision?

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Reply #134 – December 12, 2020, 11:24:20 pm

Quote from: GleamB – December 12, 2020, 07:37:38 pm

So, I take it I would be ok to buy the less expensive ES52 and not regret the decision?

Read the manual in the link for the less expensive one and the instructions for the dip switches are there. Maybe Mike will chime in but a ES52 is the same no matter who you buy if from. See Mikes reply #112

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Reply #135 – December 13, 2020, 12:04:40 am

Glenn, I've been off line for a while and just saw the posts. I worked my way up through #96 and decided to skip the rest. I'm not sure what else has been done or what you've tried, so I will just post a diagram I did a while back that might be helpful in seeing where things go. I believe it is accurate and I've asked others to verify.
On the right side of the box (referring to the diagram) there is a 40 amp CB just forward to the relays. This one, I believe is for the generator starter. The drawn lines represent wires. Sorry the diagram is a little faded in that area.
Regarding the clicking sound: In older cars, that sound would be from the mechanical starter solenoid trying to complete a circuit that doesn't have enough power to turn over the starter. I don't know if that would be applicable here.

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Reply #136 – December 13, 2020, 07:50:45 am

I'm replacing parts as well, 2 burnt relays, and bad starter, and likely bad es52 something board...this may help?

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Reply #137 – December 13, 2020, 08:34:28 am

Quote from: GleamB – December 12, 2020, 07:37:38 pm

So, I take it I would be ok to buy the less expensive ES52 and not regret the decision?

Regret's an emotion. Would it be a bad decision? No. Could something go wrong? Yes. Why? Fear or carelessness.

Either way, whether or not you purchase a DynaGen ES52F or the more universal ES52 you will need to transfer all of the connections to the new board.

I'm currently re-reading Frank Herbert's Dune.

The Litany Against Fear

"I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain."

Been there, done that, and now you can get this quote on a Tee shirt.

Art

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Reply #138 – December 13, 2020, 10:07:56 am

The difference with the es52f is it doesn't have the dip switches. Do you want to pay $250.00 more to not have to set the switches? That's your choice.

Power Tech Mobile Generator Auto Start Controller - ES52FS

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Reply #139 – December 13, 2020, 10:37:08 am

Quote from: craneman – December 13, 2020, 10:07:56 am

The difference with the es52f is it doesn't have the dip switches. Do you want to pay $250.00 more to not have to set the switches? That's your choice.

Power Tech Mobile Generator Auto Start Controller - ES52FS

Having the DIP switches means you can customize your installation for 6 10-second start re-tries with a rest in between.

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Reply #140 – December 13, 2020, 12:48:57 pm

I was going to call Power Tech to find out how much they get for the ES52F that Jeff said I needed.
Funny.....he never asked for the year, model, size, of my generator.
Guess they are all the same.
For over $250.....no problemo
I will dip switch away.........

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Reply #141 – December 13, 2020, 01:19:10 pm

Powertech $539.00 + shipping

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Reply #142 – December 13, 2020, 01:25:13 pm

Quote from: GleamB – December 13, 2020, 12:48:57 pm

Guess they are all the same.
For over $250.....no problemo
I will dip switch away.........

Take good photographs. Draw a cartoon and mark all of the wire locations and if the wires aren't numbered tag them with masking tape and mark the tape with a Sharpie.

Above all else double check the power and ground connections.

Or, in for a penny, in for a pound:

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Reply #143 – December 13, 2020, 04:56:04 pm

Compared to what other auto start controllers cost, $550 seems outrageous. Another holiday season present for retirees.

Pierce

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Reply #144 – December 13, 2020, 06:25:09 pm

And thank you all for the journey. I now know that if I so choose I can add auto-start to my Onan Emerald II.

And that there are there ways other than a big heavy box on the floor for adding toad brakes. I could see myself trade the Siata and bikes in for a 1955 New Yorker!

Merry Christmas!

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Reply #145 – December 13, 2020, 06:36:33 pm

Like I said in an earlier Post Pierce, He told me $500 so should I ever need one it will be from someone else. So far mine is running good again every time I start it up for something to do.
Twice the price is a bit much especially as we poor Canadians have to add 35% on plus customs.
What ticks me off more is that it is made in Canada too, maybe Dynagen sell direct, but doubt that.
JohnH

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Reply #146 – December 13, 2020, 06:51:23 pm

I wouldn't even mind a price that was a little higher than the $250......after all, Jeff earned his money with me. Took him NO time to diagnose the problem. But TWICE THE PRICE??!!!
Ouch!

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Reply #147 – December 13, 2020, 07:42:13 pm

Quote from: John Haygarth – December 13, 2020, 06:36:33 pm

Like I said in an earlier Post Pierce, He told me $500 so should I ever need one it will be from someone else. So far mine is running good again every time I start it up for something to do.
Twice the price is a bit much especially as we poor Canadians have to add 35% on plus customs.
What ticks me off more is that it is made in Canada too, maybe Dynagen sell direct, but doubt that.
JohnH

There are a lot of auto generator starts available for a fraction of the price. Perhaps they could be easily adapted to the PowerTech.

Pierce

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Reply #148 – December 13, 2020, 11:31:13 pm

Yes there are but maybe adapting them brings the price up to or close to 250+ so really not worth messing around with any others
Johnh

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Reply #149 – December 14, 2020, 12:45:54 am

Quote from: John Haygarth – December 13, 2020, 11:31:13 pm

Yes there are but maybe adapting them brings the price up to or close to 250+ so really not worth messing around with any others
Johnh
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Even at $250, that's half of $500 and once it was done, the schematic could be shared so the cost would be much lower.

Pierce

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