No generator

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Re: No generator

Reply #25 – December 01, 2020, 12:36:35 pm

Glenn, Mouser Electronics in Mansfield Texas south east of Fort Worth has them. Look online for that company and call them to see if you can get a couple fast if they prove to be problem. I am getting mine from them. Just a thought.
JohnH

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Reply #26 – December 01, 2020, 12:45:42 pm

Twig, last post from him memtioned they had not crossed border yet.
Anyway there are 3 electronic stores in Mazatlan that may have them , if not he could have them couriered. I found an RCA Electronics store in Guaymas that was heaven for electronic parts so maybe one of those in Maz old town area can help.
I have had great service getting stuff sent from Canada to San Carlos with DHL in a few days.
JohnH

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Reply #27 – December 01, 2020, 01:05:14 pm

Do we know the clicking is not the starter?

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Reply #28 – December 01, 2020, 10:02:44 pm

OK
Update. We are at our RV PARK. There are about seven units on our side, that normally would have 50 ish. No Canadians. Businesses are folding up here because no one is here. All to ourselves.
I am on land line now. Still can't start the Genny. My Victron reads 92 SOC with 12.9 V. I will let it charge overnight, and try again. We think the clicking is the fuel pump. I have had no difficulty starting my coach these past two days.
I will post a picture, but need to read up on troubleshooting the Kubota.
The house batteries are old, bought in 2013. I was going to replace them, this past summer, but got lost in what to replace the Lifelines with. Roger spent a good amount of time talking me thru some ideas. Probably should have replaced them. We'll try and get through this setback and keep you updated.

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Reply #29 – December 01, 2020, 10:45:03 pm

Glenn, glad you are safe and back in the warmth and hospitality of Mexico.
Now first off check those 2 relays out by swapping them. One note, I guess the gen does not even crank does it? If you find it is one of the relays there are 3 electronic stores by the old Town. Google "electronic stores in mazatlan"
John

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Reply #30 – December 02, 2020, 05:52:20 am

When all else fails call Jeff at power tech.

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Reply #31 – December 02, 2020, 07:15:46 pm

Just received my 4 relays from Mouser Electronics in Mansfield Texas. Mailed on 30th arrived today in BC Canada, not bad by UPS.
JOHNH

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Reply #32 – December 02, 2020, 07:17:12 pm

Quote from: John Haygarth – December 02, 2020, 07:15:46 pm

Just received my 4 relays from Mouser Electronics in Mansfield Texas. Mailed on 30th arrived today in BC Canada, not bad by UPS.
JOHNH

John,
Please share the part numbers you ordered from Mousers.

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Reply #33 – December 02, 2020, 07:18:45 pm

Quote from: DayDreamer – December 02, 2020, 07:17:12 pm

John,
Please share the part numbers you ordered from Mousers.

Look at reply #24, I ordered the 5 of them yesterday.

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Reply #34 – December 02, 2020, 08:36:36 pm

The ones from Mouser have not been used or pulled from a board. They sell new stock. My cost in cndn funds was just over $3 each. Check their web site and fill in the relay #
Johnh

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Reply #35 – December 02, 2020, 09:01:12 pm

Mouser's the nutz!

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Reply #36 – December 02, 2020, 09:23:20 pm

I got these a while back on Amazon....
Amazon.com: Song Chuan 871-1C-C-R1U01 12VDC ( Pack of 3) Micro 280 SPDT...

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Reply #37 – December 02, 2020, 11:43:53 pm

The batteries have been float charging all day.
Victron and Magnum say 95% SOC at 12.92 V
I am used to seeing higher numbers.
The house batteries are suspect.
I kept wavering on choosing best replacement this summer....
Woulda, coulda, shoulda.....
Generator just ticks
Aqua Hot won't fire up....that is a concern, as the nozzle will gum up if I can't run it every so often.
Looking into some options. Mexico doesn't sell lots of the big brand batteries
Anyone heading' down with room for some big batteries??
To top it off, yesterday, when we pulled in and I went to plug into the landline, my Progressive unit read good on both legs coming into the coach. Only problem was.....NOTHING was coming into the coach. I checked the transfer switch....nada.
Took some hard thinking, especially after 7 hours of some intense driving of the coach, but finally realized that the Progressive EMS, which had been working all last month, perfectly, is dead.
When it rains.........
So three batteries and an EMS. Anyone on their way??

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Reply #38 – December 03, 2020, 12:03:32 am

Mexico makes a lot of our batteries. Let us know what size battery you need and what city you are in and we will find you batteries.

Autozone, NAPA, Walmart, Sam's Club are all represented in Mexico.

Since your destination is Mazatlan, here are just some of the battery dealers there: car batteries in mazatlan - Google Search[[23.285054543778394,-106.33950691168484],[23.20145821642669,-106.48713569586452],null,[23.24326292826551,-106.41332130377468],13]

If you use Chrome for a browser, it will automatically translate the pages into English.

If you need them soon, tell us where you are.

Pierce

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Reply #39 – December 03, 2020, 12:14:27 am

Will do, Pierce
You rock!
I'll be ok
We just got here, yesterday. Here for six months.
Stay healthy

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Reply #40 – December 03, 2020, 07:12:56 am

Trying to run the Aqua Hot at low voltage will take out the burner. Ask me how I know.

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Reply #41 – December 03, 2020, 09:08:46 am

Quote from: amos.harrison – December 03, 2020, 07:12:56 am

Trying to run the Aqua Hot at low voltage will take out the burner. Ask me how I know.

So true, when voltage goes low the amps increase, stressing if not destroying most electric items. This is another reason to have a good monitor like the Victron 712 to help notify you to prevent such mishaps. Often it is not user error, just a failing battery or other system component. The low voltage turnoff on most inverter/chargers is set to 10.5 volts for just that reason, to prevent destructive usage.

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Reply #42 – December 03, 2020, 10:10:07 am

Are you *sure* it is the Progressive that failed?

If shore voltage is out of range, it may be the built in coach (factory original) EMS not letting power in. (Maverick voltage monitor)

I had that issue in the past, and there are adjustable pots in the basement (assuming the 2001 U320 is ike our 2003 U320).

In our case, the progressive was ok with the shore voltage, the factory system was not. A minor adjustment of the pot let power in, and the voltage was OK with the progressive.

Is your progressive system hard wired, or pedestal seperate unit type?

This thread has details: Help - NO shore power into coach

Quote from: GleamB – December 02, 2020, 11:43:53 pm

The batteries have been float charging all day.
Victron and Magnum say 95% SOC at 12.92 V
I am used to seeing higher numbers.
The house batteries are suspect.
I kept wavering on choosing best replacement this summer....
Woulda, coulda, shoulda.....
Generator just ticks
Aqua Hot won't fire up....that is a concern, as the nozzle will gum up if I can't run it every so often.
Looking into some options. Mexico doesn't sell lots of the big brand batteries
Anyone heading' down with room for some big batteries??
To top it off, yesterday, when we pulled in and I went to plug into the landline, my Progressive unit read good on both legs coming into the coach. Only problem was.....NOTHING was coming into the coach. I checked the transfer switch....nada.
Took some hard thinking, especially after 7 hours of some intense driving of the coach, but finally realized that the Progressive EMS, which had been working all last month, perfectly, is dead.
When it rains.........
So three batteries and an EMS. Anyone on their way??

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Reply #43 – December 03, 2020, 10:26:06 am

Glenn,

Glad to be of assistance! Mazatlan is sure to have the electrical equivalent of Antonio in painting. Here are the electrical shops in Mazatlan: electrical shops mazatlan - Google Search[[23.289405,-106.38599049999999],[23.1960154,-106.45357340000001]];tbs:lrf:!1m4!1u3!2m2!3m1!1e1!1m4!1u16!2m2!16m1!1e1!1m4!1u16!2m2!16m1!1e2!2m1!1e16!2m1!1e3!3sIAE,lf:1,lf_ui:10. Think a shop that does boat work might be good as salt water and electrical components don't like each other. The auto parts stores also may have a line on some sharp guys.

Pierce

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Reply #44 – December 03, 2020, 10:45:12 am

ordered 4-- 871-1C-C-R1-12VDC 35 AMP 1 FORM A from mouser electronics for a total of 18.22 including shipping and taxes
Chris

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Reply #45 – December 03, 2020, 12:04:36 pm

Glenn, find an LTH battery as there are many or google 12 v batteries
12volt batteries in mazatlan
Have you taken one of yours off system and tested it while you are hooked up. Did you see if shore power worked without out the Progressive in line or is yours like mine hard wired in.
John

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Reply #46 – December 03, 2020, 02:52:19 pm

My Progressive isn't hard wired. Yes, when we by passsed the EMS and plugged directly into the pedestal, all was good. Correct voltage in each leg.
Now we'll see how good Progressive is about warranties.
I PROMISE to keep y'all informed.

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Reply #47 – December 03, 2020, 02:59:28 pm

In my recent experience Progressive is great with warrantee replacement as long as you have the receipt. They changed their policy a few years ago from 'unconditional' to 'original purchaser with receipt'.

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Reply #48 – December 04, 2020, 04:03:01 pm

Contacted Progressive tech. He walked me through testing for the obvious, "open ground or neutral." The EMS DID display E2.....
Yup,
Open ground.
Just like it said
The RV park had it fixed within minutes....missing wire...I'm in Mexico. Things are "different" here.
Progressive EMS did what it's supposed to.
I called them back to let them know they nailed it.
Everyone is happy

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Reply #49 – December 04, 2020, 04:30:23 pm

Correct, grounds are NOT required in Mexico (or at least aren't there in most parks. But, most are "limited" 15 amp anyway.

Have used an "adapter" with long wire to serve as ground wrapped around a metal water pipe. Don't know if this would fool your EMS though.

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