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Re: When to walk away..

Reply #25
My prime button is in the rear passenger side compartment next to the engine batteries(3).

I bought my 95U320 after a refrigerator fire. I was able to buy it for a substantial price reduction. I knew I would eventually NOT save any money but I could use the saved money (compared to a solid U320) to update EVERYTHING.
You can expect that ALL the appliances probably need replacement. They may work but have timed out as far as expected use available.
My floors have all been replaced, and the window treatments updated, new faucets, new washer and dryer, new residential refrig, a dishwasher, and interior lights upgraded to LED, new front TV (48"), new head liner, new mattress.
As far as mechanical; New airbags, new steering box, bulkheads cleaned and through bolted front and rear, Air dryer rebuilt, Primary filter housing and priming pump replaced, Both A/C units replaced, Rear air chambers (cans) replaced, new Victron isolator, two Victron charge controllers, Victron Multi 3000 inverter/charger/, (10) L-16 Lifeline batteries, 2000 watts of solar, 3 new engine batteries, 6 new Michelin tires, endless odds and ends.
I probably have at least the same amount of money invested now than if I had found a coach in fantastic condition to start with,but I have this coach EXACTLY how I want it.
I still have a long list to go, Brakes, fuel lines, radiator and fans, rebuild my Primus heating boilers, fiberglass conditioning.
Coach Bucks ($1000) seems the way we evaluate what we spend. I apply 1 or 2 coach bucks to EVERY project.
I do ALL the labor myself. If I had to pay to have the labor done I would at least double my expenses, If that were the case I would be WAY over what the coach is worth. Even now, If I had a major breakdown (engine or transmission) I would have to consider selling the coach for parts.
Be very realistic when evaluating the actual cost of buying a RV.
Same thing only different
Initial purchase may be the easiest part cheapest part.
What is the tow capacity for that year? What are your tow needs?
If your paying for labor I would run away from all RV's.
Scott

Re: When to walk away..

Reply #26
For me, the biggest question for a situation like this - what do I want to be doing.

If I want to be traveling, I would look for an up and running coach, maybe with a few minor repairs.  I would be frustrated by failures and delays.

If I want a project, I would be all over this thing!  It would be the adult equivalent of when I was 12 and dragged a broken lawnmower home.

Years ago, I bought a complete Beaver DP for $5000.  It started and went into gear, but that was about all I could verify.  I handed over the cash.  Took a little work to make it move, and TONS of little stuff to make it right - $5000 of expenses including used tires.  Sold it quickly for $20K.  We already had a motor home, so it was a fun project without yearning or deadlines.

It is amazing how many problems can be solved by cleaning dirty ground connections!
Matt B
1998 u-320

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Reply #27
If one looks only at the dollars no one would ever buy much of anything. The coach being discussed here sounds quite interesting. If ours was sold I might be tempted to look at it myself.

Yes, you are going to spend some money right away on new tires and batteries. Fuel lines may also be something that needs attention immediately, or maybe they can wait until next week. If you are able to change the oil and coolant where it sits you will be ahead of the game. Since it has been inside for 10+ years you may be able to drive it to a tire shop for new tires. I'd make sure that either the tires are on hand or that you can leave the coach at the tire place until they come in.

One thought: Oklahoma has been known to have an occasional tornado or two. Might want to make sure that it wasn't dropped there by the last tornado. <grin>

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Reply #28
I don't know what your mindset is but every time I walk away from something, I have second thoughts and go back and get it or wish I had....... Bad philosophy but I'm stuck with it.
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Lynn & Marilyn Sickel
Tollville, AR
1997  U320  40'
2021 Chevrolet Silverado pickup
Motorcader  17257

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Reply #29
I don't know what your mindset is but every time I walk away from something, I have second thoughts and go back and get it or wish I had....... Bad philosophy but I'm stuck with it.

Interesting to see that I'm not alone!
David and Carolyn Osborn
1995 U320C SE 40' Build 4726 Feb 1995
FMCA 147762
Motorcade 17186

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Reply #30
I have a horrible disease..it's called (I Can Fix That). Everytime it flares up costs me a lot of time and money. I thought when I got older it would get better but it only takes longer to go away.
Larry
Larry & Debbie Town
2000 U320 4210 
Previous 88 GV


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Reply #32
Don't forget to check out the Aqua Hot.  For sure you will need to do a complete service on it before trying to run it.
Richard & Betty Bark & Keiko our Golden Doodle
2003 U320T 3820 PBDS
Build # 6215
MC # 16926
2016 Chevrolet Colorado 4X4 diesel

Re: When to walk away..

Reply #33
Got me wanting it and I'm sitting in one now. No cure for this disease.
Dub McBride 1996 270

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Reply #34
The voice of reason says "Buy It!"

2000 GV320 4010 build #5712  2019-?
1999 Bounder 2000-2008
Bardstown, KY
🥃The Bourbon Capital of the World🥃

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Reply #35
I have a horrible disease..it's called (I Can Fix That). Everytime it flares up costs me
Larry
Okay so you will be doing your own work. Id be all in if it has a 10k tow capacity. If i can do it, so can you. I think the thinking is over. Go see what it is👍👍
Scott

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Reply #36
Okay so you will be doing your own work. Id be all in if it has a 10k tow capacity. If i can do it, so can you. I think the thinking is over. Go see what it is👍👍
Scott

Scott, I greatly appreciate all of your comments and text this evening!  I'll definitely give it my best shot and keep your phone handy if I have a question this weekend!! Lol!

Re: When to walk away..

Reply #37
Before you run the engine remove the desiccant filter it is old and will contaminate the entire air system with decomposing desiccant. I Just replaced the entire dryer assembly with a factor rebuilt unit. Dryer and desiccant filter. My plan to change the desiccant every year and will probably replace the dryer every three with a rebuilt unit. Will evaluate when due.
Scott

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Reply #38
Jason here's where I'm at after my first year of ownership. My guess is this coach will need much of the same. Mine was in pretty good shape when I bought it and some of the work listed here had cheaper alternatives or was simply preventative.
1987 Grand Villa ORED
2001 U320 4010

Not all that wander are lost... but I often am.

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Reply #39
Outside of what what said, any engine that has not been started on a semi-regular cadence would concern me. Seals/gaskets will dry out and cause leaks. I talked to a guy who had a 20 year old Porsche with very low miles (30K or so) that had not been started in numerous years, he said it needed all the the seals/gaskets replaced because it was not started regularly. That was an engine out job, very expensive.

A 12YO engine would fall in this category IMO. It may be fine and not leak, but then again, it may.
Jason
2000 U295 36' Non-slide  ISC350

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Reply #40
Outside of what what said, any engine that has not been started on a semi-regular cadence would concern me. Seals/gaskets will dry out and cause leaks. I talked to a guy who had a 20 year old Porsche with very low miles (30K or so) that had not been started in numerous years, he said it needed all the the seals/gaskets replaced because it was not started regularly. That was an engine out job, very expensive.

A 12YO engine would fall in this category IMO. It may be fine and not leak, but then again, it may.

There are 2 coaches on the forum that had sit in the weather for years and the engines had no problems. An air cooled engine is not built like diesel truck engines.
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
Dream as if you will live forever. Live as if you will die today.  James Dean

Re: When to walk away..

Reply #41
Jason here's where I'm at after my first year of ownership. My guess is this coach will need much of the same. Mine was in pretty good shape when I bought it and some of the work listed here had cheaper alternatives or was simply preventative.

I appreciate that.  That'll probably be my list plus tires and batteries.  Jason

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Reply #42
One thought about the DIY. Saying that you need to DIY everything or go broke, Depends on if you are one of the lucky ones that already have an appropriately sized shop with all the proper tools in it.

I'm one of those that doesn't own a piece of property big enough to build a shop and fill it with tools. So the nearly $40K we have spent on coach issues and maint. in our 6 yrs of ownership (performed by proper mechanics) is an absolute pittance compared to buying some land, building a barn and filling it with tools. 
Jerry & Nona and Kimeru the cat that thinks she's a dog
1998 36' WTFE U320  #5314 Motorcade #17711
USAF 1975-1995
2019 Subaru Crosstrek 'toad'
2003 Subaru Legacy touring car
jerry Fincher | Flickr

Re: When to walk away..

Reply #43
Some of us were lucky enough to already have land, shop and tools before coaches came into our lives. Without that advantage might not even have a coach.
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
Dream as if you will live forever. Live as if you will die today.  James Dean

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Reply #44
And, some of us who do all our work do it out of a regular commercial storage facility with our own lockable stall and far fewer tools.  Works just fine if you have the desire.
Brett Wolfe
EX: 1993 U240
Moderator, ForeForum 2001-
Moderator Diesel RV Club 2002-
Moderator, FMCA Forum 2009-2020
Chairman FMCA Technical Advisory Committee 2011-2020

Re: When to walk away..

Reply #45
And, some of us who do all our work do it out of a regular commercial storage facility with our own lockable stall and far fewer tools.  Works just fine if you have the desire.
NONE of our local storage facilities allows major maint. I can and do inside and minor outside work at my storage location. But putting it on safety stands and changing tires, doing brakes, oil changes etc. will result in loosing the spot.  Our local city code also forbids curbside major work.

There are only 12 inside climate controlled RV stalls in all of the Walla Walla area and about the same for covered outdoor spots. I know the owner of this climate controlled facility. And it will cost me $485 per month (each spot has power) but again. No major maint allowed.
Jerry & Nona and Kimeru the cat that thinks she's a dog
1998 36' WTFE U320  #5314 Motorcade #17711
USAF 1975-1995
2019 Subaru Crosstrek 'toad'
2003 Subaru Legacy touring car
jerry Fincher | Flickr

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Reply #46
Let us know how this turns out Jason,
Dub McBride 1996 270

Re: When to walk away..

Reply #47
Be sure and post some pictures. Agreed with Elliott. The more you do yourself the more you will learn. I'm also new to Foretravel. Bought my coach in November and all I can say is that everyone here has been so helpful. Many have pm'd me their phone numbers just in case I had a question or help. If the price is right then give her some love and hit the road!
06 Nimbus 34'
Build #6362

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Reply #48
Some of us were lucky enough to already have land, shop and tools before coaches came into our lives. Without that advantage might not even have a coach.
I doubt I would have ever bought one. 
Dave and Kelli
1997 U295 40' Build #5188 CSGI
1995 U240 36' Build #4621 SBID-SOLD
2006 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon

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Reply #49
Offer him $25,000 and get it cleaned up on you dime. He wants to get rid of it, not make a profit. You will do him a favor and yourself. These are good coaches and will survive sitting.