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Re: Stuck in Arizona Walmart parking lot leveling issues

Reply #25
Oh and in case anybody starts to mention it yes that was before I taped it all together.
'99 U320 40 WTFE
Build #5462,
1500 Watts Solar 600 amp Victron lithium
2012 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland Hemi
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Re: Stuck in Arizona Walmart parking lot leveling issues

Reply #26
Glad you made it now you have time to sort things out.
Peter and Frieda Morin
1999 36ft. U320 Foretravel
Build # 5436
1998 Suzuki Sidekick Sport

Re: Stuck in Arizona Walmart parking lot leveling issues

Reply #27
I have to say watching this thread today is WOW. Everyone on this forum jumping in to help is great. I hope someday I will have the knowledge on my new coach to help out as well. Really nice job guys.
Jeff & Carolyn
1999 36ft. U320 Foretravel

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Reply #28
Bruce Beane hit it. Here at Quartzsite it was Francis Fritch that told Bob over the phone to get 12Vs to the grey wires. If I've said it once, I've said it a thousand times.......FRANCIS CAN FIX ANYTHING!. 5 coaches here now. Get your reservations in quick. It's getting crowded.
1994 U280, Build 4490
Deming, NM.

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Reply #29
Sorry I got involved in something else, couldn't get back to form. Glad Frances helped him out.
Bruce, Linda, and Macy
Zoey RIP 1/20/19
1999 U295 40' build #5400
2017 silver Jeep Wrangler, 1260 watts of solar on top
Moving around the country

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Reply #30
Sorry I got involved in something else, couldn't get back to form. Glad Frances helped him out.
The dog can't walk itself?
1994 U280, Build 4490
Deming, NM.

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Reply #31
I have to say watching this thread today is WOW. Everyone on this forum jumping in to help is great. I hope someday I will have the knowledge on my new coach to help out as well. Really nice job guys.

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2000 U320 36' non-slide / WildEBeest Rescue
2003 U320

Re: Stuck in Arizona Walmart parking lot leveling issues

Reply #32
Bruce Beane hit it. Here at Quartzsite it was Francis Fritch that told Bob over the phone to get 12Vs to the grey wires. If I've said it once, I've said it a thousand times.......FRANCIS CAN FIX ANYTHING!. 5 coaches here now. Get your reservations in quick. It's getting crowded.

We are over a month out and it is crowed now?
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prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
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Re: Stuck in Arizona Walmart parking lot leveling issues

Reply #33
jumping from 12 volts to the gray wires and that did the trick. I am now at quartzsite foretravel site

I knew at some point my leveling system was going to go out. It's been kind of funky for the last couple years

So the next thing to do would be to rebuild a six packs which I have the kits for and see if that fixes it or if not I'll have to send my board to HWH.
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You know how it is if things don't break you don't learn how to fix them...

Thank's Elliott for the help, but so much for the Socratic method.

Power to the gray wires shoots down my supposition that the grounds are faulty.

Power to the solenoid shows that the coil and solenoid are fine.

And then logic sees a squirrel:  So while you're at Quartzsite have a technician conform that your HWH board is toast and not just some bad plug in connections.

But overall, Nice Work Bob!

Art& Lynn
1992 Foretravel Grand Villa
U225 SBID Build No. 4134
1986 Rockwood Driftwood
1968 S.I.A.T.A. Spring
1962 Studebaker Lark
1986 Honda VF700C
1983 Honda VF750C
Charlie, the Dog was broken out of jail 24 Oct 2023
N1RPN
AA1OH (H)e who must be obeyed.


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Reply #35
I'm glad you were able to get back on the road in relatively short order.
Regarding HWH, I got this voicemail this morning...

"Hi Chris, this is Caitlin with HWH. I'm returning your parts call from back in the end of August. If you are still needing help, please feel free to reach out at 800-321-3494. Thank you."
1993 U225 Build #: 4285
500 Watts Solar
Honda CRV AWD
Former 1981 Foretravel Travco
Retired, Full Time Off Grid Snowbird

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Reply #36
Sounds like there's going to be a "Christmas in Quartzsite"  gathering.  Has that happened before ?
Robert and Susan
 1995 36' 280 WTBI 8.3 3060r
 1200 watts on the roof, 720 Ah of lithium's
 Build # 4637. Motorcade # 17599
        FMCA  # 451505
        18  Wrangler JLUR

Re: Stuck in Arizona Walmart parking lot leveling issues

Reply #37
I'm glad you were able to get back on the road in relatively short order.
Regarding HWH, I got this voicemail this morning...

"Hi Chris, this is Caitlin with HWH. I'm returning your parts call from back in the end of August. If you are still needing help, please feel free to reach out at 800-321-3494. Thank you."


Have you called back?  I missed a call and I was told they would take a message and call me back.  Don't remember how long but it was a while.
2014 ih45  (4th Foretravel owned)
 1997 36' U295 Sold in 2020, owned for 19 years
  U240 36' Sold to insurance company after melting in garage fire
    33' Foretravel on Dodge Chassis  Sold very long time ago

Re: Stuck in Arizona Walmart parking lot leveling issues

Reply #38
Thank's Elliott for the help, but so much for the Socratic method.

Power to the gray wires shoots down my supposition that the grounds are faulty.

Power to the solenoid shows that the coil and solenoid are fine.

And then logic sees a squirrel:  So while you're at Quartzsite have a technician conform that your HWH board is toast and not just some bad plug in connections.

But overall, Nice Work Bob!

Art& Lynn
Thanks Art! I was just going to send it in but you know HWH may have a tent here but that won't be for a little while. It's a good idea though
'99 U320 40 WTFE
Build #5462,
1500 Watts Solar 600 amp Victron lithium
2012 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland Hemi
Instagram bobfnbw
Retired

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Reply #39
Just called HWH was on hold for 10 minutes and then I got a live person to talk to they already knew who I was and a service technician is expected to call me back within about a week which is fine with me cuz I'm not going anywhere right now anyway.
The lady I spoke to did tell me that if I was stuck at Walmart still they would have got somebody on the phone quicker although she didn't really specify how quick. I told her I had something better. The fore forums...
Maybe I just called at the right time....  Somebody will call me back next week and I'm pretty sure that if they're going to have a technician at quartzite he'll know hopefully. I'm pretty sure I'm going to have to send the board in for repair though.
Francis Fritch was a big help though and talked me through the jumper process for the travel solenoids.
I think I may make a permanent jumper for it and store it on the computer so it's right there.
'99 U320 40 WTFE
Build #5462,
1500 Watts Solar 600 amp Victron lithium
2012 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland Hemi
Instagram bobfnbw
Retired

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Reply #40
Have you called back?  I missed a call and I was told they would take a message and call me back.  Don't remember how long but it was a while.

No, I didn't call them back, I replaced a broken spring on one of my levelers back in August and was able to get the part number from Foretravel. I just thought it was strange that HWH was that far behind.
1993 U225 Build #: 4285
500 Watts Solar
Honda CRV AWD
Former 1981 Foretravel Travco
Retired, Full Time Off Grid Snowbird

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Reply #41
More than likely you will need to send the control box in for a rebuild. Might as well send the touch pad as well. Try calling HWH and ask for Ashley in service she gave me the return authorization. It took about a month or so.
Bruce, Linda, and Macy
Zoey RIP 1/20/19
1999 U295 40' build #5400
2017 silver Jeep Wrangler, 1260 watts of solar on top
Moving around the country

Re: Stuck in Arizona Walmart parking lot leveling issues

Reply #42
More than likely you will need to send the control box in for a rebuild. Might as well send the touch pad as well. Try calling HWH and ask for Ashley in service she gave me the return authorization. It took about a month or so.
That's exactly what I did.

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Reply #43
It'd be pretty easy to just build your own control box that allows you to manually level and go in and out of travel mode. That'd hold you over until yours is rebuilt. I'm thinking about doing it so I (and the forum) have a backup after seeing enough of these control box issues.
1987 Grand Villa ORED
2001 U320 4010

Not all that wander are lost... but I often am.

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Reply #44
No, I didn't call them back, I replaced a broken spring on one of my levelers back in August and was able to get the part number from Foretravel. I just thought it was strange that HWH was that far behind.
When I called them in the summer about a bad slide synchronization cylinder, it was about three months before I got a call back. Then I was told it would be an unspecified number of months before it would be returned if I sent it to them. Luckily I had already found someone else to repair the cylinder. The person at HWH told me that they were just that far behind with the employees they have.
Dave and Kathy Bennett
2004 U270
Build #6253
1600W Solar
700 AH Battle Born Lithium
2015 Jeep Wrangler

No matter what happens, remember you always get the trip out of it.

Re: Stuck in Arizona Walmart parking lot leveling issues

Reply #45
It'd be pretty easy to just build your own control box that allows you to manually level and go in and out of travel mode. That'd hold you over until yours is rebuilt. I'm thinking about doing it so I (and the forum) have a backup after seeing enough of these control box issues.
I have a back up system for travel height. And I have a back up system for a raise. I never built on the lower it. Takes me a few seconds to hook up the connections and it's good to go. It's tied into all the travel height solenoids and raise solenoids. Also have a manual setup to raise or lower as needed using the manual settings for over the road

Re: Stuck in Arizona Walmart parking lot leveling issues

Reply #46
Thanks Art! I was just going to send it in but you know HWH may have a tent here but that won't be for a little while. It's a good idea though
Bob, I was thinking more of a generic technician, someone comfortable with solid state electronics who knows the names of the connectors and what page they're on in the Newark catalog.  Although if you want to go down that rabbit hole, you could duplicate the HWH controller using software in a PLC and some relays.
1992 Foretravel Grand Villa
U225 SBID Build No. 4134
1986 Rockwood Driftwood
1968 S.I.A.T.A. Spring
1962 Studebaker Lark
1986 Honda VF700C
1983 Honda VF750C
Charlie, the Dog was broken out of jail 24 Oct 2023
N1RPN
AA1OH (H)e who must be obeyed.

Re: Stuck in Arizona Walmart parking lot leveling issues

Reply #47
Well I'm on the queue for a call back from technical service. They could not tell me when that would be, but indicated that it could be next week. They did say that if I was in an emergency situation they could expedite things but since I'm here at q now I guess I'll be all right.
Francis here also did the same thing did away with the HWH leveling system and set up switches to do it. And if worse comes to worse then that is what I will do. I already know how to activate the travel solenoids with the jumper wire.
The next question is though if I apply power to the raise solenoids can I get the stands in place so I don't get squashed when I rebuild the front six pack?
And I would imagine that applying power to the lower ones will then release air? And lower it back down?
And twig and Francis and I already discussed it would be better to raise all corners at the same time to lessen tweaking on the frame.
Inputs on that would be appreciated
Thanks
Bob
'99 U320 40 WTFE
Build #5462,
1500 Watts Solar 600 amp Victron lithium
2012 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland Hemi
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Retired

Re: Stuck in Arizona Walmart parking lot leveling issues

Reply #48


The next question is though if I apply power to the raise solenoids can I get the stands in place so I don't get squashed when I rebuild the front six pack?
Yes. Turn engine on and let pressure build until you hear the blow-off at the air dryer, then apply power to both front raise solenoids until you have enough room to install stands
And I would imagine that applying power to the lower ones will then release air? And lower it back down?
Yep - engine can be off for this. Remove power from the raise solenoids and apply to both dump (lower) solenoids. It is basically just opening an exhaust port for the air in the bags.

Whether or not you put safety stands in up front and in back, or just one end at a time is up to you. I've done it both ways but never just left or right... always with four stands on at least one end.
1987 Grand Villa ORED
2001 U320 4010

Not all that wander are lost... but I often am.

Re: Stuck in Arizona Walmart parking lot leveling issues

Reply #49
I have a back up system for travel height. And I have a back up system for a raise. I never built on the lower it. Takes me a few seconds to hook up the connections and it's good to go. It's tied into all the travel height solenoids and raise solenoids. Also have a manual setup to raise or lower as needed using the manual settings for over the road

I searched and maybe missed it. Has anyone diagramed this out for the forum or a "I'm stuck cheatsheet"? I see things like this and first thing I think is this is going to me. I am gathering everything I can in a digital format so maybe I can figure it out. This seems to be a pretty important one.
Jeff & Carolyn
1999 36ft. U320 Foretravel