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Reply #60 –
Is it one of these under the bed?

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Reply #61 –
Is it one of these!

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Reply #62 –
Quote from: Wpduffey –
Is it one of these!
It could be one of those in the photo.

You are looking for a circuit breaker exactly like the ones on that big panel near your entry door.  In your photo, there are 2 of them mounted below the silver solenoid (which might be your AUX START solenoid).

I don't know what the two items are in the right side of the photo.

You need to pull back the split wire protector on all those wires and see if you can find any wiring ID labels.  If you find labels, compare the ID numbers to your wiring schematic.  That's the best way to figure out what you are looking at on your coach.

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Reply #63 –
I have no power to the remote start either. But cant find a clear answer if that supposed to be ignition hot or always hot. I read ten pages in here of Yes and No. With no definitive answer.

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Reply #64 –
Key on only time there is power at the remote start. If the remote start and stop push switches are original I would replace both. Mine shorted out and the stop button killed the Ignition while running on my coach.
Larry

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Reply #65 –
If The E86 wire is supposed be hot all the time as the sense wire, it also goes right to the remote start button which is only ignition hot?
I'm gonna replace with new breakers, relays and remote start Solenoid. All of it looks corroded and crusty.
I can read all the numbers clearly if anyone know what they are.

Still don't understand why the ignition exciter wire is not getting power.

I will have post a picture separately from my phone.

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Reply #66 –
This is all needs worked over.
The one on the left is open or the far left leg! The rest of that bar is hot. Id replace all of it if i just knew what everything is and where it is.

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Reply #67 –
The  bar supplies power the the circuit breaker for the 2 wires on the left. Should be auto reset but am not sure. Get a number off it and buy one.

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Reply #68 –
Yes sir, i get that, the bar gets power from the far right side. The one on the left is not resetting as best i can tell. There are no numbers left on them. Looking at the schematic i believe they are 15 amp.

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Reply #69 –
A looking at the pic. shown the breaker on the left should be 15amps and the one on the right should be 20amp. auto reset.

@ Chuck. The stuff on the right hand panel is due to this coach is a 270.

Mike

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Reply #70 –
SO, the left-hand circuit breaker in the photo is open (tripped) and will not reset.

What is the odds one of those two wires on the "load" (non-powered) post of the left-hand circuit breaker might be the SENSE wire?

Any bets?

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Reply #71 –
Im gonna replace both and probably those two relays as well. Trying to find the numbers for that remote start solenoid and the switches for it.
All of those contacts are sketchy

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Reply #72 –
Quote from: Wpduffey –
Trying to find the numbers for that remote start solenoid...
You don't have a separate "remote start solenoid" on your coach.

You DO have a AUX START solenoid (or on some model years a AUX START relay), and you have a BOOST solenoid.  (There is also a STARTER solenoid bolted to the starter, but that's another subject)

At the front end of the coach you have a IGNITION solenoid (either one or two, depending on model year).

If you are talking about replacing the round silver solenoid in your photo, the model usually recommended on the Forum is a Cole Hersee 24213.  It can be used as a AUX START solenoid, and as a BOOST solenoid, and as a IGNITION solenoid.  Works very well in all three applications.

Cole Hersee 24213 12V 200A Continuous Solenoid


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Reply #73 –
Quote from: Chuck & Jeannie –
What is the odds one of those two wires on the "load" (non-powered) post of the left-hand circuit breaker might be the SENSE wire?

Somewhere around %100

Quote from: Wpduffey –
Im gonna replace both and probably those two relays as well.

Doing that may fix some of the dash A/C problems.  One of those is for the condenser fan the other is for the compressor clutch.

Mike

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Reply #74 –
Quote from: Wpduffey –
Trying to find the numbers for that remote start solenoid and the switches for it.
All of those contacts are sketchy

The "Remote Start Switch" operates the same starter solenoid(s) as does the ignition switch.

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Reply #75 –
Well I cleaned wires and tightened a few things up.
Disconnected the ignition wire from the alternator and got 11.8 volts with the ignition on.
When I reconnect it and put the tester on it (with an aligater clip), I have nothing!

Ran pigtail from the Isolator chassis side to the other post (Sence wire) and still only had basically nothing for volts at the center lug.

All of a sudden the idler bearing squeak got so bad I could not hear my cussing.
So I'm gonna replace that now and probably put on a new belt for good measure.
Have the breaker ordered that's stuck open and idler ordered.
Will work on it again when I get that fixed.
Belt shouldn't be too hard to find.

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Reply #76 –
Quote from: Wpduffey –
Disconnected the ignition wire from the alternator and got 11.8 volts with the ignition on.
When I reconnect it and put the tester on it (with an alligator clip), I have nothing!

So I'm gonna probably put on a new belt for good measure.  Belt shouldn't be too hard to find.
Your weird voltage readings may be due to a problem with your multimeter, or a problem with your test leads (alligator clip).

Try to always use a Gates Green Stripe belt if possible.  They are the best quality.

https://assets.gates.com/content/dam/products/gates/power-transmission/micro-v-belts/automotive/heavy-duty/heavy-duty-sell-sheet-fleetrunner-belts.pdf



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Reply #77 –
Not arguing with you what so ever just trying to figure it out too.
I have good voltage with the same alligator clip with the ign wire disconnected and ignition on!
Not sure why i would have nothing, same clip, same wire and same meter with the wire attached.
Meter shows 13.4 volts at each battery every time.
Meter works fine. Wire and clips are fine. Alternator not working worth a dern.
And i did order a green line belt. ty

And believe it or not my coach is in very good condition, wiring isnt butchered or chopped up, very little rust, Just have something weird going on. But i do appreciate your assistance.
Thank you,

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Reply #78 –
Quote from: Wpduffey –
I have good voltage with the same alligator clip with the ign wire disconnected and ignition on!
Not sure why i would have nothing, same clip, same wire and same meter with the wire attached.
Meter works fine. Wire and clips are fine. Alternator not working worth a dern.
I can think of no logical explanation for the test results you are reporting.
You have not yet mentioned the make and model of your new alternator.  Is it a Leece Neville?  If so, what model number?

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Reply #79 –
Think your coach sat near water and moisture in it's home state,those screws on the metal panel holding the solenoid look
mighty rusty,make sure none of the components are grounded thru that metal plate,if so that may be a problem,you also have
that old insulation falling apart on the compartment walls,most of us with the older coaches have redone that,when you get a
chance come look at mine.