Stuck in the mud in Idaho

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Re: Stuck in the mud in Idaho

Reply #50 – June 12, 2023, 03:48:10 pm

Is the dog having fun? Are you seeing much wildlife? Other human visitors?
I was camped in Idaho once and had my dog tied to a 30' leash. Good thing because one morning there was a badger close to the RV and the dog took off after it. As the badger ran off he kept looking over his shoulder to see if it was time to turn around and kick butt.
Without the leash I would surely have had a vet bill.

Re: Stuck in the mud in Idaho

Reply #51 – June 12, 2023, 03:54:21 pm

Quote from: Dakota Slim – June 12, 2023, 03:48:10 pm

Is the dog having fun? Are you seeing much wildlife? Other human visitors?
I was camped in Idaho once and had my dog tied to a 30' leash. Good thing because one morning there was a badger close to the RV and the dog took off after it. As the badger ran off he kept looking over his shoulder to see if it was time to turn around and kick butt.
Without the leash I would surely have had a vet bill.

Chief is having a pretty good time although I'm keeping him inside a lot because of the mud out there.
Lots of ground squirrels. Chief's favorite ball went down that hole and I guess I should go try to dig it out but it's down there pretty far.
Yesterday I saw one or two deer and there's plenty of track and scat around. Other than that just birds and flowers and peace and quiet. Is a great place to hang out for a couple weeks just not during the rainy season. The first place I boondocked was alongside of a river and that was interesting and getting in and out. But there were massive ponderosa pines hundreds of feet tall there. It was a beautiful place.
Not sure exactly where I'm going next but probably into Oregon unless I need to get major work done on the coach which I don't think I will.

Re: Stuck in the mud in Idaho

Reply #52 – June 12, 2023, 06:19:14 pm

Quote from: Dakota Slim – June 12, 2023, 12:01:20 pm

I asked my artificial intelligence assistant about this predicament.

How do you get an RV out of mud?

Please do not use ChatGPT or other AI to answer a forum question. Answers are suspect and are no substitute for personal knowledge of a coach issue. AI-generated answers are not permitted on most forums I belong to.

Re: Stuck in the mud in Idaho

Reply #53 – June 12, 2023, 07:19:42 pm

Ive never done this. I have used chains. Very interesting to me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSRxhvufvmw

Re: Stuck in the mud in Idaho

Reply #54 – June 12, 2023, 07:48:29 pm

So I have some guys that may be able to come out on Thursday with Jeeps. They're not insured it's all on me if something happens. But they seem to be pretty knowledgeable about this stuff it's an all volunteer thing.
There must have been some talk on Facebook related to my situation with those guys because I just got a call from a company in Cascade which is about 30 miles away I think name Eric who owns a company called Cascade emergency roadside service. He's offering his service to me although he does not think progressive will pay for it since I'm off pavement. He asked me to call progressive to find out if they will reimburse. He's quoted me a price of 2 to $3,000 but states that there's really no way of knowing for sure until he gets up there and we try it. He doesn't use a tow truck he uses a heavy duty dually with a Diesel and some 20,000 lb winches.
So I will call progressive tomorrow to find out about that but it would really check my ass if I paid my deductible with progressive and they paid him or I reimbursed me when these guys could have done it for a big tip. It's been mostly a dry day here but it's currently misting and we had a little bit of rain. I did try to rock it back and forth a little today and didn't have much success but I still think that it wouldn't take much to get it out of the current situation it's just whether or not the area behind it will support it or just stick there again.
I guess I'm asking for your opinion because I'm tired and it's hard for me to even concentrate right now.
I think what I really would like to do is see what the Jeep guys could do. I would think any damage would be covered by my insurance..
But at the same time I wouldn't mind being out of here sooner as my refrigerator is out and I need parts. Not to mention there's mud everywhere and my water tank is almost empty.
It's all good though I'm trying to keep upbeat about the whole thing. Sure glad I got starlink because otherwise I'd be miserable here.

Re: Stuck in the mud in Idaho

Reply #55 – June 12, 2023, 08:09:43 pm

You might try the Jeep guys first. Might as well, some of these folks are pretty good at getting out of trouble.

Re: Stuck in the mud in Idaho

Reply #56 – June 12, 2023, 08:13:42 pm

Always good to have options. If the Jeeps work in the same manner as SNORR that would be the direction I would go. Like I said before they are all about calculating what it needs. Is there any trees to pull from? It wont be quick however they do it. Also just thought about plastic. Wont allow it to dry out but if in place wont let any more rain accumulate. Pray for a cold snap. Also give you an idea on what they need $$$$. They are big on the synthetic ropes and gear. Amazing stuff. Ive learned a bunch in the past month. All of it is also expensive to buy.

Re: Stuck in the mud in Idaho

Reply #57 – June 12, 2023, 08:21:33 pm

unless the guy with the dually has some type of anchor that he can secure his truck to? Your coacch is much heavier and no matter how strong his winch is, he will slide in the mud. maybe there is a nearby LARGE tree he can anchor to?

Possibly a few jeeps hooked up in tandem may be all the assist that you need, hard to advise, always someone to "Monday morning quarterback" what you do anyway. Go with what you think is best.

Re: Stuck in the mud in Idaho

Reply #58 – June 12, 2023, 08:37:18 pm

I don't know the solve to your problem but do admire your ability to hang in there under a stressful situation. This too shall pass and you'll laugh about it someday just like I do with my little off roading incident.

Re: Stuck in the mud in Idaho

Reply #59 – June 12, 2023, 08:48:34 pm

He did say that he would anchor his truck and that sometimes he brings several others but indicated that it might be up to me to find that. Of course I have my Jeep Grand Cherokee but it's no use to me by myself. I still think that it won't take much to get out as long as the ground has some time to dry. Two strong days of sun will do it. I'm still going to call progressive and see if they'll pay for it but I'm thinking I'm going to go with the Jeep guys as well unless they can't get here it was a tentative thing. And that was through the off-road portal guys.
As far as trees to anchor to the big trees are in front of me and are no use for this situation. In front of those trees is wetter than behind me. And the ground is so uneven. My plan was to back up and then turn right to get out when I was going to leave.
I started the engine today and aired it up and tried to rock it back and forth a little today just to see if I could move it any and it didn't want to move because I put a big piece of wood underneath the front right tire and now it's acting like a stop so I got to try to get that out. Not enough traction with the back wheels to get over it. I got to trench the front out a little bit more and then I can try going forward 6 in. That would get the wood out. I thought about making a ramp by digging it out and then I could back it up and get that front passenger side tire out of the hole. I still think I'm going to need a pool though to do that with this amount of moisture on the ground.

Re: Stuck in the mud in Idaho

Reply #60 – June 12, 2023, 10:06:22 pm

Very unlikely insurance will pay.

Mine stopped coverage 100' off pavement Wouldn't pay. Farmer with tractor gave me very slight pull and I was out. Had to force him to take $100

Tim Fiedler

Re: Stuck in the mud in Idaho

Reply #61 – June 13, 2023, 12:06:30 am

Few random comments/questions

1- As stated earlier, I'd call coachnet and let the waiting period pass, and use it if the Jeeps can't pull you. Since you plan on more off grid camping, it seems like use insurance IMO.
2- Do the Jeep folks require you signing a waiver for them releasing all liability?
3- If your coach is damaged, Progressive should cover that, but I wouldn't expect them to cover the extraction so far off
4- Please video the Jeep pull, partially for our entertainment, partially so you have a record should something happen and it's needed.

GL, I've been reading all posts. Glad you have a good Toad to get supplies. I too admire your patience and tenacity.

Re: Stuck in the mud in Idaho

Reply #62 – June 13, 2023, 12:38:54 am

Quote from: Jason – June 13, 2023, 12:06:30 am

Few random comments/questions

1- As stated earlier, I'd call coachnet and let the waiting period pass, and use it if the Jeeps can't pull you. Since you plan on more off grid camping, it seems like use insurance IMO.
2- Do the Jeep folks require you signing a waiver for them releasing all liability?
3- If your coach is damaged, Progressive should cover that, but I wouldn't expect them to cover the extraction so far off
4- Please video the Jeep pull, partially for our entertainment, partially so you have a record should something happen and it's needed.

GL, I've been reading all posts. Glad you have a good Toad to get supplies. I too admire your patience and tenacity.

Im confident they require a waiver. They are a not for profit organization. Gratuity is welcomed. At SNORR they send a safety representative and a technical lead. The technical lead will take the weight of the vehical and the percentage that it is stuck to calculate the minimum required equipment to safely pull from the situation. Recoveries outside of these requirements results in termination in their community. They take pride in no damage recoveries. 34k plus 25% (guessing). 43k load. Three 13k winches and point to tether to may be maximum load. Yes probably less. But guessing at loads. Not on site so again just guessing. Again everyone should carry the portal number I listed prior. They are nation wide with many members. Many drive hours to help people in need👍👍

Re: Stuck in the mud in Idaho

Reply #63 – June 13, 2023, 08:26:15 am

Looks like we have exhausted all our thoughts on this scenario. Good luck.

Re: Stuck in the mud in Idaho

Reply #64 – June 13, 2023, 08:47:19 am

Sounds to me like the guy with the dual pu contacting you and wanting 2 or 3 k is an opportunity seeker with a hose and eager to use it on anyone. I'd use my toad to haul my water and ice for the cooler which you probably already are. I dislike someone who looks for people to rob. Of course I could easily be wrong because I can be over sensitive to characters. This will come to a close for you soon.

Re: Stuck in the mud in Idaho

Reply #65 – June 13, 2023, 10:51:37 am

You could always buy a tow strap or two from Harbor Freight and then rent a truck/backhoe from HomeDepot or other rental companies and then pull it out. Can't be that hard.

Pierce

Re: Stuck in the mud in Idaho

Reply #66 – June 13, 2023, 10:53:04 am

Quote from: Pierce & Gaylie Stewart – June 13, 2023, 10:51:37 am

You could always buy a tow strap or two from Harbor Freight and then rent a truck/backhoe from HomeDepot or other rental companies and then pull it out. Can't be that hard.

Pierce

Pierce
I think he is camping alone, would be difficult without good help.
🤷‍♂️

Re: Stuck in the mud in Idaho

Reply #67 – June 13, 2023, 11:10:12 am

Quote from: FourTravelers – June 13, 2023, 10:53:04 am

Pierce
I think he is camping alone, would be difficult without good help.
🤷‍♂️

I would call a rental shop and see if they have someone to help. Cash is always a good incentive. A backhoe will pull anything out so you just have to find one for rent in the area. Usually pretty easy.

When I did 817 feet of steep uphill concrete driveway, I went to the Safeway parking lot and hired 3 kids that were standing around. 5 days with those kids in 104 degree weather saved us $70K.

Pierce

Re: Stuck in the mud in Idaho

Reply #68 – June 13, 2023, 04:14:54 pm

Yeah when I drove into town the other day I kept the lookout for all the homes that had backhoes in there like in their yards. It's frustrating for sure but I've got guys coming on Thursday there's going to be 100 Jeeps here on Thursday for this event. Not me but a Jeep event and they're going to be more than happy to help he said because it's good practice for them. I did have to sign a waiver that I would not be responsible for anything. I understand that and I'm okay with it I'm asking them for help. I agree that the guy is an opportunist. The nearest home Depot is in Boise several hours away. I don't even know how to operate one of those. And it would be impossible to do it by myself as somebody needs to be in the driver seat steering and giving it some oomph.
It's very sunny today but it's supposed to rain tonight again. I did manage to get the coach to move forward a few inches and after about 40 minutes of working on it got the piece of wood out that was underneath the front right tire. Still no joy going back though the tires are just not really getting much traction.
Yeah I'm going to have to throw away all the food in my refrigerator but I did manage to save some in my booge RV fridge. Really glad I bought that thing. I'm thinking it's going to cost about six or seven hundred dollars the repair my fridge with a new danfoss compressor module so any money I can save getting out of here will be appreciated in a few days.
I will try to video tape it as I do have a Panasonic G5 in a small tripod but I will be in the driver's seat and will not really be able to do much in the way of zooming and paning.
I felt a little discouraged last night but then went to sleep and woke up feeling just fine. I'm sure I'll get out of this it's not really that big of a deal it's not like I'm buried to the hill and sand on the beach in the tide is coming in... I was in that situation once with my brand new Dodge dually pickup truck with a Cummins. Parked it on the beach and Olympic national Park and the next thing I knew the tide was coming in and I was stuck. Couldn't get to the rear tires to let the air out. Unfortunately there was some English tourists there on the beach and they help me collect Driftwood which ultimately gave me enough traction to get out. The surf was literally kissing my back tire is when we finally got out of there. Think that was a $60,000 truck back in 1999 maybe.
The luck of the Irish!
Thanks for your assistance and support. Means a lot.

Re: Stuck in the mud in Idaho

Reply #69 – June 13, 2023, 04:28:37 pm

We are all pulling for you.

Re: Stuck in the mud in Idaho

Reply #70 – June 13, 2023, 04:57:23 pm

I got stuck in the desert a little south of San Felipe in my old SOB. A guy in a Jeep came by, attached a line to the front, I put it in 1st and gave him some help. 30 seconds later, I was on hard sand.

I'm sure the Jeep owners will battle each other to be the one or two that pulls you out.

Yes, videos or at least photos!

"Pulling" for you!

Pierce

Re: Stuck in the mud in Idaho

Reply #71 – June 13, 2023, 05:05:18 pm

Ever see the bolt to the wheel drums ? Pull yourself out.

Re: Stuck in the mud in Idaho

Reply #72 – June 13, 2023, 05:32:30 pm

A guy named Jeff with a big ass truck with a big winch is coming in an hour and a half to pull me out. He just wants money for fuel and I'll be happy to give it to him. Fingers crossed right now it's raining but it's going by really fast and the ground is fairly dry from most of the days sun.

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