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Foretravel speedometers

Some of the FORETRAVEL units that I am looking at have had their speedometers replaced which leads to a suspicion of the actual mileages on these units.
It seems that they let go at about 35 - 40 thousand miles≥

Was there a run of bad head units, cables or speedometer drives on the transmissions ?

Don
Don

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Reply #1 –
It may have been bad head units.

The speedometer was replaced by the previous/original owner on our 1997 U295. I think it was replaced around 55K miles. The current unit shows about 25K.

You should be able to get a good idea of engine time from the accumulated time on the tachometer. There is a pretty good correspondence between tach time and miles on the coach. I can't give you a multiplying factor, but some of the drive train experts could probably help with that.
J D Stevens
1997 U295 CAI 36' Build #5085
2002 Subaru Outback
Motorcade 16869
Bellville, TX

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86,736 mi on mine, 1952 engine hours
Tim Fiedler    2025 LTV Unity MBL on Order
2000 Chevy Tracker 2 Door Convertible 4WD Now lifted 4.5"
1985 Citroen 2CV6 Charleston
Murphy Rebel on wheels with 175HP Titan
Cessna P337
1980 48' Westport MY (!/4 Share)

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2141 hrs, 82,150 miles. A lot of last 20K has been slow speeds in Sierras
Pierce and Gaylie Stewart
'93 U300/36 WTBI
Detroit 6V-92TA Jake
1140 watts on the roof
SBFD (ret)

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73218 miles, 1790 hours.  Coach has been all over US and Canada.
Bob Mulder
02 U270 3610 / 06 CRV
Spokane, WA

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That is a great reason the have and use the VMSpc if you have an electronic engine, my speedo shows very nearly the same as the computer shows, same with the engine hour reading. 
My speedo works but after using the VMSpc, I prefer it to the actual speedo, for easy reading and correct mph read out as it agrees with the GPS exactly for distance and speed.
I sure prefer the ISM to a mechanical engine even though I do not know much about it except it sure does nice, so I like it.
FWIW

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My last 93 GV and now this U295 have both had the gauge replaced but the correct mileage was kept and a little plate glued to the wall next to switches mentioning it.
I just did a quick calc' on  Tim's, Pierces and Bob's miles divided by hrs and its funny how the figures come out.  45mph, 38mph and 40mph. So is there a lot of idling, stopping or is everyone driving slowly?? I would have thought that the figures would have been more to the 50-55mph or are the gauges not reading right ( or is my calc wrong)
I should go and check mine for fun.
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And this coach does 70 to 80 whenever on interstate. 75 right now in So. MN
Tim Fiedler    2025 LTV Unity MBL on Order
2000 Chevy Tracker 2 Door Convertible 4WD Now lifted 4.5"
1985 Citroen 2CV6 Charleston
Murphy Rebel on wheels with 175HP Titan
Cessna P337
1980 48' Westport MY (!/4 Share)

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Quote from: Donmystic1 –
Some of the FORETRAVEL units that I am looking at have had their speedometers replaced which leads to a suspicion of the actual mileages on these units.
It seems that they let go at about 35 - 40 thousand miles≥

Was there a run of bad head units, cables or speedometer drives on the transmissions ?

Don

Don,

When dealing with honest and reputable dealers, you have nothing to fear.  It is a crime to tamper with odometers and falsify mileage.  Our 2000 U320 is on its second odometer and when we bought it from Motorhomes of Texas there was paperwork that validated the odometer change.

George Stoltz.  Retired from full-time living in a great Foretravel and now are back to living in a traditional sticks and bricks in Florida.

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The speed rating on my tires is 75 MPH.
John Duld
1995 U320C SE 40'

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Quote from: John Haygarth –
My last 93 GV and now this U295 have both had the gauge replaced but the correct mileage was kept and a little plate glued to the wall next to switches mentioning it.
I just did a quick calc' on  Tim's, Pierces and Bob's miles divided by hrs and its funny how the figures come out.  45mph, 38mph and 40mph. So is there a lot of idling, stopping or is everyone driving slowly?? I would have thought that the figures would have been more to the 50-55mph or are the gauges not reading right ( or is my calc wrong)
I should go and check mine for fun.

John,

When we bought ours, it was a fast trip across the US. Now, while we have made trips to Southern California, Yellowstone, etc., a lot of the trips to campgrounds are on twisty roads. Toad or no toad has a lot to do with it. Heading to San Francisco or Reno, we leave the RAV at home and use it like a car. The 60-65 mph trip down turns into a lot of stop and go in the city. While it was a pretty quick trip to Yellowstone, driving from campground to campground was really slow so the 38 mph average was about what I would have guessed. The last owner took longer trips compared to our short jaunts so our average is probably closer to 30 mph.

Wonder if it is possible to retrieve transmission shift data to see how many times the Allison has changed gears in it's life?
Pierce and Gaylie Stewart
'93 U300/36 WTBI
Detroit 6V-92TA Jake
1140 watts on the roof
SBFD (ret)

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More information on tampering with odometers/speedometers can be found here
Federal Odometer Law and State Odometer Law
George Stoltz.  Retired from full-time living in a great Foretravel and now are back to living in a traditional sticks and bricks in Florida.

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I have replaced one speedometer on my 2000 but Dave is right about silverleaf. You get the correct info from the computer. I don't worry about the fact at hey are changed out.  Most units have so few miles that the low milage is an issue not high.
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Quote from: John Haygarth –
I just did a quick calc' on  Tim's, Pierces and Bob's miles divided by hrs and its funny how the figures come out.  45mph, 38mph and 40mph. So is there a lot of idling, stopping or is everyone driving slowly?? I would have thought that the figures would have been more to the 50-55mph or are the gauges not reading right ( or is my calc wrong)
I should go and check mine for fun.
Just to add one more to the mix. Mine has 2933 hours on 132139 miles which equals 45 mph
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2003 U320 40' AGDS
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The engine computer keeps track of miles ( among lots of other stuff) VMSpc/other devices will read it.
At least on my 6V92
1993 U300, 6v92
build 4366
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 ATP, A & E.  & ex AI