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Re: Battery usage percentages

Reply #100
Hey Larry,

Can I ask you something about my set up?

900w in 12-75w panels, 40A controler

Looking at removing 2-4 panelsand updating with these 270w panels.
Can you mix wattages? :-\

You can mix wattages. just keep the total within reason with your controller.
Larry
1996 U295 36'
Build # 4805
Actually we sold it but just like to lurk

Re: Battery usage percentages

Reply #101
Thanks Larry, sounds like I might be getting a couple of 270w panels ^.^d

that will increase my capacity;
2 @ 270 watts @ 60% capacity because of dirt clouds no tilt etc =720watts input
3 @ 270w =940watts input
4 @ 270w = 1000watts input
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John - driving Old Faithful
1994 U280 GV
C8.3, Banks, Pacbrake, 900 watts, Resonator, XLHD tow dolly
Retired Army Warrant Officer

Life is what you make of it - if it is lemons, make lemonade!
Former Coaches:
1988 GV 40' ORED 300HP CAT - 9 years
1990 Winnebago LeSharo - 3 years
2000 Newmar London Aire - 3 years (#18 of 23 produced)

Re: Battery usage percentages

Reply #102
Make really sure your voltage does not exceed the controller rated voltage. Remember, in the morning, a cold PV panel will put out more voltage than the rating on the lable. I could have gone all series wiring and on paper, would have seen 144 volts with the Classic 150 being rated for 150 volts but was advised the voltage on an all series wiring on a cold morning could exceed 150 volts by a significant amount. Controllers will either not turn on until the voltage drops or will be fried and not covered by the warranty. As the sun is starting to come over the horizon in the morning, our controller indicates over 80 volts (four 36 volt, 280w panels in series/parallel) but won't turn on until enough watts become available.  Our panels have a 92 amp potential with the MidNite 150 maxing out at 96 amps so this is also an important consideration in planning the installation. In other words, we have maxed out the wattage/amperage the controller can handle. If any doubts or questions, call the controller retailer or manufacturer and ask questions.

With the panels flat on the roof and dirty, we still get 80+ volts in the very early morning from a 2 x 36 volt panels series wiring that would normally see 72 volts. They are also shaded by the AC at that time.

Pierce

Pierce and Gaylie Stewart
'93 U300/36 WTBI
Detroit 6V-92TA Jake
1140 watts on the roof
SBFD (ret)

Re: Battery usage percentages

Reply #103
Thanks Pierce good advice. ^.^d
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My advice and experiences are Free, you decide if they are worth anything .

John - driving Old Faithful
1994 U280 GV
C8.3, Banks, Pacbrake, 900 watts, Resonator, XLHD tow dolly
Retired Army Warrant Officer

Life is what you make of it - if it is lemons, make lemonade!
Former Coaches:
1988 GV 40' ORED 300HP CAT - 9 years
1990 Winnebago LeSharo - 3 years
2000 Newmar London Aire - 3 years (#18 of 23 produced)

Re: Battery usage percentages

Reply #104
Just note that you can only safely parallel connect banks of solar panels if each bank produces exactly the same voltage, otherwise you will be applying the voltage differential across a length of wire, heating the wire, possibly to destruction, and wasting power.

I would feel safest if each parallel connected bank is the same configuration and the same solar cell type, otherwise there might be small differences in voltages under identical conditions.  I wouldn't try paralleling an amorphous UniSolar cell with a traditional crystalline cell, or two cells from different manufacturers with different blocking diodes used or not used.

Series connections on the other hand are just fine, as long as you never under any conditions (for example no load and cold) exceed the controllers max PV voltage.
Tom Lang K6PG (originally  KC6UEC)
and Diane Lang
2003 38 U295 build 6209
2016 Jeep Grand Cherokee Summit Ecodiesel
still have tow-ready 2006 Acura MDX 
Temple City, California
Motorcade 16681 California Chapter President
SKP 16663 member of SKP Park of the Sierra, Coarsegold California
FMCA F071251
Retired electrical and electronic engineer

Re: Battery usage percentages

Reply #105
running the refrigerator on ac from the inverter is not a good way to go as it will kill your batteries very quickly

Maybe. My RV refrigerator uses two 210 watt ac heater elements. How does this 420 Watts compare with the power used by a residential refrigerator?  I assume the duty cycle to maintain a static temperature would be pretty similar.
Tom Lang K6PG (originally  KC6UEC)
and Diane Lang
2003 38 U295 build 6209
2016 Jeep Grand Cherokee Summit Ecodiesel
still have tow-ready 2006 Acura MDX 
Temple City, California
Motorcade 16681 California Chapter President
SKP 16663 member of SKP Park of the Sierra, Coarsegold California
FMCA F071251
Retired electrical and electronic engineer

Re: Battery usage percentages

Reply #106
Think I have read most of the installments here on the Battery useage and the PV Cell use, wire size, wire run, length, amp draw, voltage drop etc.
My question concerns those that are using the electric heat in bath and front flooring.  I have no idea of the kw draw on the battery, I do not know if the heat strips are 12 VDC or 120 VAC, surely someone has considered this issue, this will surely come up one day, so am wondering.
Dave M

 

Re: Battery usage percentages

Reply #107
Easy heat - warm tiles, which we use mostly in bathrooms as follows;
Mat type 2' width vs length

60 sq ft - 720watts, 6A
75 sq ft - 900watts, 7.5A
90 sq ft - 1020watts, 8.5A

Use the flex grout in a can - will color code to any MAIP grout color
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My advice and experiences are Free, you decide if they are worth anything .

John - driving Old Faithful
1994 U280 GV
C8.3, Banks, Pacbrake, 900 watts, Resonator, XLHD tow dolly
Retired Army Warrant Officer

Life is what you make of it - if it is lemons, make lemonade!
Former Coaches:
1988 GV 40' ORED 300HP CAT - 9 years
1990 Winnebago LeSharo - 3 years
2000 Newmar London Aire - 3 years (#18 of 23 produced)