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Re: Silverleaf Glass Dash

Reply #50 –
Agree, that is what I mentioned in my post- maybe a tablet covering the analog gauges in the current panel rather than cutting that current panel.  that solution would get rid of a tablet/pc on the dash (which I don't care for - personal preference  - so I currently don't use my VMsPC when driving even though I own it....  surface mounted to current panel would be cheap ant maybe not too "cheesy" depending on how it is attached and the size of the tablet.


That being said, it looks like he just made a new panel to hold the Glass Dash - that could easily be done if willing to give up the center luminescent panel- not sure what would be so hard about that...but I might want to keep the idiot lights.
Tim Fiedler    2025 LTV Unity MBL on Order
2000 Chevy Tracker 2 Door Convertible 4WD Now lifted 4.5"
1985 Citroen 2CV6 Charleston
Murphy Rebel on wheels with 175HP Titan
Cessna P337
1980 48' Westport MY (!/4 Share)

Re: Silverleaf Glass Dash

Reply #51 –
My setup is pretty flexible. I use my 7" display most of the time but I can use my iPad or laptop. All wireless. Actually I can use the iPad as a remote display with the laptop or any other computer in my house or coach. One of the new 12+" iPads would be pretty nice for a dash display.  The display is  just an app so it is easy.

I Played around with my iPad where the dash gauges are.  I prefer my more heads-up position of the 7" tablet.  Everything I need at a glance.  It is just my preference but there are lots of ways to do this. 
Roger Engdahl and Susan Green
2001 U320 3610 #5879 (Home2) - 2014 Jeep Cherokee or 2018 F150
Hastings, MN

Re: Silverleaf Glass Dash

Reply #52 –
Tim, the new dash surround is just the same as the old one, and the old one is removed not cut. He has a template to make the insert exactly the same and it was ready as soon as I got there.
My pictiure did not show "idiot" lights as when I am going I prefer not to have any, but when you first start there is a whole block at the top that until they are fulfilled they will stay.  Many more than before so you are not missing anything.
There is also a "before moving" check list to save you embarrasment down the road.
Briian.
2001 U320 Build #5865
Daihatsu Rocky Toad
VW Touareg
'82 F100 Stepside
Beech' Debonair

Re: Silverleaf Glass Dash

Reply #53 –
I for one would hate to give up my currently operating electro luminescent dash panels. Kinda cool looking at night.

I bought an hp laptop inexpensively and run the program next to me on the dash. The comparison of the two systems has helped me to better understand how Foretravel setup my coach and may show partially defective sensors.

Noticed the dash temp gauge does not match the silverleaf.  I think different pickup points. Or the non cummins ECM sender is off?

The RMPG seems to show my cooling fan is on too much either intentional of from a bad sundstrand hydraulic fan controller.

No dash gauge for that on mine. 

The dash temp gauge comparison and the mpg info are to me the two important parts of the silverleaf.

While the gee whiz is great it's not enough for me so far to mod the dash.

Others with failed SW gauges and non luminescent panels would have a different set of choices.

Was intending to send the PC signal to my iPad which had a fancy mount but I have only tested it.

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"Riding and rejoicing"
Bob
1997 U320 40' Mid entry, build 5132,  wtbi ce27, 4th owner
2007 Solara convertible
2 prodeco tech outlaw ss electric bikes

1095 watts solar
08 Ls 460 and a sc430
2000 Ford F-250 superduty 4x4

Re: Silverleaf Glass Dash

Reply #54 –
Has anyone made a Glass Dash conversion on a 1997 Foretravel?
The selected media item is not currently available.Bob & Faith Rozek
1997 U320 40'
Xtreme Remodel
2010 Scion XD

Re: Silverleaf Glass Dash

Reply #55 –
You will have to take a look at my 2001 with the glass cockpit when you pass down this way on your way home.
Speedbird 1.
2001 U320 Build #5865
Daihatsu Rocky Toad
VW Touareg
'82 F100 Stepside
Beech' Debonair

Re: Silverleaf Glass Dash

Reply #56 –
Hi Brian

Your installation looks very clean. I'm not sure how they would do the same on ours. There is quite a bit going on, on the panel that would have to be replaced. I was hoping someone had already crossed that bridge and have some pictures.

See yah in September,
Bob
The selected media item is not currently available.Bob & Faith Rozek
1997 U320 40'
Xtreme Remodel
2010 Scion XD

Re: Silverleaf Glass Dash

Reply #57 –
Ok anyone else with a 2000 that is thinking of a glass dash other than Trent and myself? Maybe we get a bulk deal?
JohnH
Coachless, now use aircraft. 2003 Ford Travelair TC280 class C. Super shape. Just for 1 yr .
1994 Ford E350 ClassC,total renovation inside and out. Now sold.
2000 U295  36' Cummins 350 c/w Banks Stinger, Resonator upgrade,Solar, LED lites.Residential fridge with slide out pantry. Build 5674. Sold
ex 92 GV 022C ored Cummins. Sold
ex 95 GV240 cat 3116. Sold
2017 Mini cooper s & 2016 land Rover LR2 HSE  LUX.
jhaygarth@aol.com    SKP #130098
treat everyone as you would like to be.

Re: Silverleaf Glass Dash

Reply #58 –
Quote from: flite2010 –
Hi Brian

Your installation looks very clean. I'm not sure how they would do the same on ours. There is quite a bit going on, on the panel that would have to be replaced. I was hoping someone had already crossed that bridge and have some pictures.

See yah in September,
Bob

I have an expert fabricator who custom builds dashboards for Rv's and busses.

I am almost afraid to build something like a glass dash into our coach.  The reason might surprise you.  Maybe not.

I am a extremely aware driver and my attention can be distracted while driving.

Almost crashed a new 1989 pt 40 bluebird in traffic one day.  Those had a upper and lower dashboard like an airplane.  Really high quality.  Zillion buttons and gauges.

Loved to monitor them a lot.

Looked up and I was coming up to stopped truck in front of me.  Panic stop.

So I leave my 11" notebook off to the drivers side in the middle of the dash.  Less distracting.

And a small garmin in front of it. 

I remember looking at a military jets dash.  Every gauge was set so that the red needles straight up position indicated that function was correct.

Quick glance showed everything ok.

Thought about rotating the dash gauges to do the same thing, 

Not do.  Just thought

Probably possible in a glass dash.

The critical gauges on a Foretravel dash are at the top edge already
"Riding and rejoicing"
Bob
1997 U320 40' Mid entry, build 5132,  wtbi ce27, 4th owner
2007 Solara convertible
2 prodeco tech outlaw ss electric bikes

1095 watts solar
08 Ls 460 and a sc430
2000 Ford F-250 superduty 4x4

Re: Silverleaf Glass Dash

Reply #59 –
yes, I am looking at it as well. Losing the center luminescent panel is holding me back a bit as I drive often at night
Tim Fiedler    2025 LTV Unity MBL on Order
2000 Chevy Tracker 2 Door Convertible 4WD Now lifted 4.5"
1985 Citroen 2CV6 Charleston
Murphy Rebel on wheels with 175HP Titan
Cessna P337
1980 48' Westport MY (!/4 Share)

Re: Silverleaf Glass Dash

Reply #60 –
John,
It looks like you and Trent have the same style dash as Tim and I. I intend to make the change in October. Art, at SilverLeaf Electronics told me that they have converted our style dash in the past. Apparently their installer Dale has pictures of the completed project.
Tim,
I unplugged the luminescent power supply to the center panel and it still looks pretty good.
The selected media item is not currently available.Bob & Faith Rozek
1997 U320 40'
Xtreme Remodel
2010 Scion XD

Re: Silverleaf Glass Dash

Reply #61 –
New led gauges available are even easier to monitor. You can see them in the nascar races, seven colours to choose you program a low range colour then a normal range colour and an upper limit colour at whatever values you would like. They also have data logger capabilities built in. No need to watch the numbers or the needles.
Toby a 94 u280
Cummins 8.3
6 speed Allison
Exhaust brake


Adopted by Derek and Annabelle

Re: Silverleaf Glass Dash

Reply #62 –
Spoke to Dale at SilverLeaf. He has not installed a Glass Dash in coach's with our style dash. The biggest obstacle is locating the same material so the final look is like a factory original. If anyone has a source for match or something close let me know.
The selected media item is not currently available.Bob & Faith Rozek
1997 U320 40'
Xtreme Remodel
2010 Scion XD

Re: Silverleaf Glass Dash

Reply #63 –
Quote from: flite2010 –
The biggest obstacle is locating the same material so the final look is like a factory original. If anyone has a source for match or something close let me know.

I called Foretravel about a month ago and was told that the original vinyl color was called "sandstone"  but they didn't have any of that material anymore and didn't know the name of the manufacturer.  I had a couple of samples shipped to me off of eBay but nothing matched.

I've found this Great Lakes Skipper site which seems like they stock a lot of marine grade vinyl but I haven't had time to request samples from them yet.

Marine Vinyl (Foam Backing) , Upholstery, Tops, Covers and Flooring | Great...

The oyster color looks very close to the original to me. 
Robert
Build # 5304
1998 34' U270 Cummins 6CTA8.3

Re: Silverleaf Glass Dash

Reply #64 –
Thanks Robert,
 I am looking for the material that is visible where the gauges are mounted.
The selected media item is not currently available.Bob & Faith Rozek
1997 U320 40'
Xtreme Remodel
2010 Scion XD

Re: Silverleaf Glass Dash

Reply #65 –
Quote from: flite2010 –
Thanks Robert,
 I am looking for the material that is visible where the gauges are mounted.

You could contact javelina to ask what the surface material is on the electro-luminescent panels?  They had a falling out with Foretravel I think so expect zero info.

I feel like I am a steward of a fine quality  yacht.

No way I will drill holes or mod working systems.

Worth more money working original than modded in my long experience
"Riding and rejoicing"
Bob
1997 U320 40' Mid entry, build 5132,  wtbi ce27, 4th owner
2007 Solara convertible
2 prodeco tech outlaw ss electric bikes

1095 watts solar
08 Ls 460 and a sc430
2000 Ford F-250 superduty 4x4

Re: Silverleaf Glass Dash

Reply #66 –
Bob & Susan,

I had contacted Javelina previously and again yesterday with the same results. :headwall:
The selected media item is not currently available.Bob & Faith Rozek
1997 U320 40'
Xtreme Remodel
2010 Scion XD

Re: Silverleaf Glass Dash

Reply #67 –
Quote from: flite2010 –
Bob & Susan,

I had contacted Javelina previously and again yesterday with the same results. :headwall:

Yes they have had issues with Foretravel.l

I considered mounting an iPad on a ram mount clamped to the wooden shade cover on the forward side of the drivers side window.

Silverleaf has no Apple program for the older data plug only Windows.

So my hp stream 11 running Windows 10 and the program can send the screen shot to the iPad. 

Would put the info offset in my vision somewhat but elevated.

Have the various pieces but have not bought the clamp mount for the iPad yet.

Right now the hp is open and running on the dash and a small garmin is next to it on a bean bag type mount for legal road speed updates and total trip mileage.

DW is using the iPad a lot more on cellular data for upcoming road things
"Riding and rejoicing"
Bob
1997 U320 40' Mid entry, build 5132,  wtbi ce27, 4th owner
2007 Solara convertible
2 prodeco tech outlaw ss electric bikes

1095 watts solar
08 Ls 460 and a sc430
2000 Ford F-250 superduty 4x4
 

Re: Silverleaf Glass Dash

Reply #68 –
As I mentioned I do have a guru buddy that can and has built dashboards.  Sourcing the exact material would be a luck thing.

He has a source to precision cut his dashes.  The ones I have seen are a smoother flat black plastic material
"Riding and rejoicing"
Bob
1997 U320 40' Mid entry, build 5132,  wtbi ce27, 4th owner
2007 Solara convertible
2 prodeco tech outlaw ss electric bikes

1095 watts solar
08 Ls 460 and a sc430
2000 Ford F-250 superduty 4x4