Silverleaf Glass Dash

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Silverleaf Glass Dash

September 21, 2015, 03:40:17 pm

Thanks Pam & Mike,
I just called them and they know nothing about the Stewart Warner 464A oil pressure gauge, but were willing to take a look at the stuck RPM gauge needle.
I am waiting for a call back from Silverleaf in Oregon to see what the cost is of doing a complete panel change, and get rid of the SW system for a glass screen??
Thanks.
Brian.

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Reply #1 – September 21, 2015, 05:07:01 pm

Quote from: speedbird1 – September 21, 2015, 03:40:17 pm

Thanks Pam & Mike,
I just called them and they know nothing about the Stewart Warner 464A oil pressure gauge, but were willing to take a look at the stuck RPM gauge needle.
I am waiting for a call back from Silverleaf in Oregon to see what the cost is of doing a complete panel change, and get rid of the SW system for a glass screen??
Thanks.
Brian.

At the Tenn GrandVention, was quoted $10,000 plus about $3,000 for air travel, motel and car rental for the Glass Dash in my 2001. Has that price been reduced Tim?

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Reply #2 – September 21, 2015, 05:29:50 pm

Hi Dave,
I just spoke with Dale at Silverleaf, in Albany, Oregon, and he quoted $4995 with me taking the coach down there which is not too far. If there are any add on's I am not aware of them at present. He said the price had been halved since the begining of the year.
I have spent the day looking for an oil pressure gauge, SW464A, and don't waste your time, there are none around.
Looks like a trip to Oregon is in the works?

Brian.

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Reply #3 – September 21, 2015, 06:03:03 pm

I might have misunderstood, but when I spoke with them I got the idea it was $5k +2 to 3 days labor to install and I think he said custom dash parts were on top of that. Results, however would be awesome.

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Reply #4 – September 21, 2015, 07:11:12 pm

A really nice solid state pc built into coach running VMSpc and a new 12.9" iPad built into your dash would cost a fraction of the cost of a SilverLeaf built in glass dash.

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Reply #5 – September 21, 2015, 07:12:35 pm

Thank you,
That is what I am fearing, but I await their call back.
Brian.

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Reply #6 – September 21, 2015, 07:26:51 pm

Mike & Molly
I am running the VMSPC on an old ACER netbook I had with Windows 7- seems to run great.

Brian- I had my oil pressure gauge peg at high last year- same on VMSPC. Bernd found that the oil pressure sender Cummins was recommending to replace was an on/off sender- no good in our estimation. He made more calls and found the sender I needed for my 2001 ISC 350 was the same as the 5.9L Cummins in the pick ups- installed it and worked great. Don't know if that will help you but sometimes another idea leads us in another direction.

Best of luck.

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Reply #7 – September 21, 2015, 09:13:59 pm

Silverleaf Speedometer and Glass Dash
I cant find the original posts, probably on the old Yahoo forum , but John C had a GLASS DASH by Silverleaf installed in his coach. Don't know where that coach ever went but it is one of a kind. As I recall it was 10K or so.
Gary B

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Reply #8 – September 21, 2015, 09:16:09 pm

Have they improved the resolution on the Silverleaf Glass Dash? The ones we've seen look like old CGA graphics.

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Reply #9 – September 21, 2015, 09:25:58 pm

Maybe 13 back then, way less now.

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Reply #10 – September 22, 2015, 03:41:35 pm

When I was at the Pomona FMCA Rally earlier this year, they said that they bought a surplus of the glass dashes and are now able to cut the price of the unit by 50%. So while before it was $10,000 plus installation/potential travel costs, now it's $5000 plus installation, which is much less if you can bring the coach to Oregon for the install.

Now I'm second guessing my thoughts about having one installed. While it is now substantially cheaper, I can see what Michelle is saying, with the old style graphics look. I don't think he said anything about the new units being any different from the originally priced ones. So I'm not aware of any graphics update. But it did look really good in bright sunlight as well as a dark environment, so that is a plus.

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Reply #11 – September 22, 2015, 05:02:51 pm

I am still waiting for a message back from Dale at Silverleaf after I sent him pictures of my 2001, U320, panel, but I will also ask about the graphics once he gets back to me and let you all know.
Brian.

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Reply #12 – September 22, 2015, 05:26:59 pm

$5K+ install for a dash? Is this a need or want?
Is there a known issue with 2001 U320 and like models that forces whole "dash" gauge cluster replacement?

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Reply #13 – September 22, 2015, 05:33:19 pm

Hey guys I had the glass dash put on my Phenix because at that time they did not have it as standard equipment. What I did though was have them use the Newell colors and graphics with the Foretravel black box that is needed. Also Foretravel sent me the new bezel for my coach that had the rectangular cut out for the dash.

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Reply #14 – September 22, 2015, 05:45:55 pm

As I understand it, it is all of the 2001 models with the gray box and later models with the blue box. i don't know how much earlier. All of the transducers for air pressure, oil pressure, volts, transmission temp, coolant temp and maybe speedo and tach feed into the box which does something to the signals and feeds a (likely) variable voltage to the gauge which casues it to show something. When the gray or blue box starts to fail signals never make it to the gauge.

When my air pressure gauges failed (it seems like these go first) the transducers still worked and applying a small voltage (<5 volts) made that gauge move. It was something in the gray box. Unrepairable, unreplaceable.

Much more is available on a VMSpc display and it is customizable for your needs.

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Reply #15 – September 22, 2015, 05:54:02 pm

When I said Silverleaf black box I actually meant their box that controls the silverleaf total coach, The settings for the water pump fill, the tank gauges, the heated floor as well as the parameters for fuel tank measurement etc. The glass dash is also connected to the engine computer and the program that lets you set various trips, see faults, and set up the whole thing. It also becomes a backup screen when the coach is put into reverse. I am not sure your earlier coaches have this box.

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Reply #16 – September 22, 2015, 05:58:50 pm

Thank you.

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Reply #17 – September 22, 2015, 06:10:00 pm

Want of course!!!!

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Reply #18 – September 22, 2015, 06:13:59 pm

Quote from: Tim Fiedler – September 22, 2015, 06:10:00 pm

Want of course!!!!

Tim,
Your 2000 U320 has a dash like this one correct?

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Reply #19 – September 22, 2015, 06:19:26 pm

I will have to look at this for 5K. It is not a bad price.

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Reply #20 – September 22, 2015, 06:30:58 pm

That's my dash as well

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Reply #21 – September 22, 2015, 06:37:35 pm

Tim, John, others the glass dash has four settings to display the data as well as having the ability to scan or add various gauges. You can change color and parameters. My dash was set so that at 75 mph the warning comes on saying "you are exceeding the tire manufacturer speed recommendations. Also there is a view that I call the airplane mode see photo.

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Reply #22 – September 22, 2015, 07:26:33 pm

My coach #6527 , has the glass dash , total coach thing . I can change colors , type of gauges and a bunch of other things that I am still learning about . Do , I like it , yes . My next coach will have it . If my present coach didn't have it , I would not spend that amount to get it . Just a very personal point of view . Brad Metzger

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Reply #23 – September 22, 2015, 07:43:16 pm

IF the price was reduced from $10,000 installed down to $5,000 plus 3 days to install, would guess the savings are in the $2,000 area. Me living n Va. The $3,000 for air travel, motel & car rental get a little reasonable since I have no plans for Or.
Looking at the above, my VMSpc looks better every day.

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Reply #24 – September 22, 2015, 08:17:06 pm

As per Roger and Susans post those of us with the 2001, and onwards, Steward Warner gauge and 'Grey" box system, are slowly getting gauge failures and bad readings. There are no parts or repairs available for them so you have to go somewhere, and these guys at Silverleaf seem to have a few options.
Others of you will have different systems and hopefully will stay good and serviceable. Our old Grand Villa was all steam gauges and worked fine.
Failed gauges will also affect the resale value should you choose to sell at some point.
Brian.

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