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Re: Possible water in air filter?

Reply #101
I did a lot of head scratching on this one as well... based on the Donaldson website alternate part reference, I ordered the DBA5029 based on the flow direction, and expecting that there won't be a gasket on the small end or a small hole for the filter minder. Given that the dimensions are correct, I expect to add the small end gasket myself and will likely add the .18" hole for filter minder support, although I may just plumb in a fitting for the filter minder elsewhere which would eliminate the need for the small end gasket. It seems like Donaldson could easily make the DBA5029 a proper cross for the P14043, but I guess the business decision is that there isn't enough demand to tool up and offer it. Too bad... :thumbsdown:
Don

Based upon my new information, I went to Fleetguard web site and was pleased to learn that the Fleetguard AF1838 we were using was correct.  Fleetguard crossed this filter to Donaldson P148043.

--- CONCLUSION ---

We could continue to use Fleetguard AF1838, but are planning to immediately trash our recent Lubrifiner and buy a Donaldson P148043 air filter. 

Within in a few days I went from complacency, to confusion, then information & frustration, and now a solution.  Thank you Roger, thank you Forum posters and thank you Donaldson . . .

Has anyone found who may have lowest cost for Donaldson P148043 ?

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Re: Possible water in air filter?

Reply #102
It seemed like such an innocent post at the time 😜
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Re: Possible water in air filter?

Reply #103
Based upon my new information, I went to Fleetguard web site and was pleased to learn that the Fleetguard AF1838 we were using was correct.  Fleetguard crossed this filter to Donaldson P148043.

Just to clarify.............this is the correct filter for the Unicoach which uses the "standard flow" filter and is incorrect for the GV coaches which use the "reverse flow" housing set-up?
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Re: Possible water in air filter?

Reply #104
My Post # 60 showed that the correct filter to use P148043 and as I do not try to save a few bucks on this kind of thing by getting a cross referenced one of another maker I was never in doubt but this info sure has made a few double check what they are doing in this very important subject. I also mark with marking pen on the respective location which oils and filters I have used so do not have to worry about which ones etc to use, or go hunting for old invoices etc.
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Re: Possible water in air filter?

Reply #105
To clarify FourTravelers question:  What I have learned is each housing is probably engineered for Standard or Reverse air flow.  And each housing model has a correct filter.  Sometimes there are alternative filter choices, but Donaldson's web site may or may not be correct on alternatives, but the original recommendation will be ok.

My whole recent discovery is only based on our Standard air flow EC G11-2001 housing.  Foretravel likely used different housings and may have even changed hardware during the model year.  I am only comfortable with what the air filter housing label says.

So I don't know the answer to your question.

Re: Possible water in air filter?

Reply #106
--- MY LAST QUESTION TO DONALDSON ---

We are a member of a group who have been quite confused by what to use for a similar Donaldson air filter housing.  Many have 'guessed' at the differences in Donaldson filters, often based on catalog photo differences. 

One more question:  We assume P148043 has metal screen on the inside for protection against filter disintegration from air flow.  Is this correct, and does the filter also have metal screen construction on the outer side? 

We are familiar with cross Fleetguard AF1838 which does have metal screen construction on both in and out sides.


--- DONALDSON'S ANSWER ---

Regarding construction of the P148043; yes, it's an axial seal, pleated filter element so it features steel end caps with a rubber gasket on both ends.  There's an inner liner of stretched steel to support the media.  A bead of glue around the circumference of the media forms a pleat lock to inhibit movement in the air flow path.  The outer stretched steel liner provides protection of the media/pleats during handling.

I apologize because I know that in spite of the large amount of information we have published between our catalog and online part details, it's not always clear or complete and the use of "representative" images online doesn't always help clear things up either.  I know the EBA and ECG conical air cleaners can be especially confusing since the elements are dimensionally identical and it doesn't specify they aren't interchangeable between the two because of the designed direction of air flow.


MY FURTHER INFO:
Axial seal refers to filter ends are sealed by being pushed against housing ends with gaskets between the filter and the ends.


Re: Possible water in air filter?

Reply #107
I had heard that the four black plastic nuts that hold our air cleaner end cap in place are not available.  I just found they are currently available from many online stores as found with Google search.

part number is Donaldson P119325

Re: Possible water in air filter?

Reply #108
I was looking for P148043 filters and found it for $46.16 from RyderFleet products.  Sounds like a good price but I have never used them and wonder if anyone has. 

Thanks Barry, Don, John H. and all our forum members for bring this to our attention.  I checked my air filter can and this is the filter needed for my 2001 U270 with ISC350 engine.  I have AF1838 in my coach now with no problems but I did reuse the outer gasket.
Based on the information from Donaldson I will be using the P148043 from now on- KISS.    ^.^d
Ted & Karen
2001 U270 36' - sold after 12 years full timing

 

Re: Possible water in air filter?

Reply #109
Ted, we bought our P148043 from Ryder as their price was much lower than others.  But their shipping can take a month as they special order it.  Our filter arrived in two weeks.  No tracking is available, even though I asked several times, so I had to go on faith if it was going to arrive (and it did, in a big sturdy box).