Re: Coach Build Numbers Reply #100 – September 25, 2015, 10:57:48 pm Interesting, I found a '95 with E21 but it had a MD3060R (retarder). Maybe the engine code isn't inclusive of engine and transmission combinations.So far I have:E-Code Eng Make Desig HP Trans Make Desig Speed Retarder Years CoachesE25 Cummings 8.3 325 Allison MD3060R 6 Retarder 1998 U270E24 Cummings M-11 Allison 6 Retarder 1995 U320CSEE21 Cummings 8.3 300 Allison MD3060R 6 Retarder 1995 U280E20 Catepillar 3116 250 Allison MD3060R 6 Retarder 1995 U240E18 Catepillar 3176 350 Allison HD4060R 6 Retarder 1995 U300 E17 Cummings 300 Allison 6 1995 U280E15 Cummings 5.9 190 Allison 4 1992 GV3000E14 Cummings 8.3 300 Allison MT647 4 Jake 1993 U280E13 Cummings 8.3 300 Allison 6 1993 O22CE12 Cummings 6BTA 5.9 230 Allison MT643 4 Jake 1991 U225E11 Detroit Diesel 6V92 350 Allison 6 Retarder 1994, 1993 U300SE Quote Selected
Re: Coach Build Numbers Reply #101 – December 05, 2017, 09:58:33 pm I am trying to figure out my build number but I cant to have enough numeric's to work with??If you can figure it out let me knowThanks Quote Selected
Re: Coach Build Numbers Reply #102 – December 05, 2017, 10:03:07 pm 5179 built May 1997, mine is 5040 built and built Sept 96 Quote Selected
Re: Coach Build Numbers Reply #103 – December 05, 2017, 10:06:51 pm Quote from: Super8mm – December 05, 2017, 09:58:33 pmI am trying to figure out my build number but I cant to have enough numeric's to work with??If you can figure it out let me knowThanksExample: F 03 6024 4023 AGDS U320T E3103 = Year6024 = Coach Build Unit #4023 = Internal DesignationsAGDS = FloorplanU320T = ChassisE31 = Internal Engine DesignationsIf always true, then 6179? Or is that a 5 and not a 6? 5179? 6179 seems too high for a 97? Quote Selected
Re: Coach Build Numbers Reply #104 – December 05, 2017, 10:08:45 pm Ok, it is not part of the VIN or Model number, its on the other sticker. Reckon I was looking in the wrong place.Thanks Jack Quote Selected
Re: Coach Build Numbers Reply #105 – December 05, 2017, 10:11:22 pm Thanks DanLike Jacks post if it is the NCC number it is 5540.My number does not match the numeric sequence that you posted, that is what made me wonder Quote Selected
Re: Coach Build Numbers Reply #106 – December 05, 2017, 10:13:36 pm This is mine, in model number, see F97 and then the next four is your build number, 5179. Quote Selected 1 Likes
Re: Coach Build Numbers Reply #107 – December 05, 2017, 10:25:16 pm Quote from: Super8mm – December 05, 2017, 10:11:22 pmThanks DanLike Jacks post if it is the NCC number it is 5540.My number does not match the numeric sequence that you posted, that is what made me wonderNCC means the Net Carrying Capacity of your Coach. This figure isthe difference between the GVW and the dry weight.5179 seems to be the correct answer. Quote Selected
Re: Coach Build Numbers Reply #108 – December 05, 2017, 10:27:36 pm NCC= Net Carrying Capacity. The terminology and way of determining the cargo capacity or carrying capacity varied over the years. Since ours is a 99' and the build number is 5402, I think that your number must be 5179 (from the model number on the VIN# plaque. During this period, Foretravel was at their peak building about 225 to 250 coaches a year, so 5179 would be about right. Below is a close up of the model number on ours.DonQuote from: Super8mm – December 05, 2017, 10:11:22 pmThanks DanLike Jacks post if it is the NCC number it is 5540.My number does not match the numeric sequence that you posted, that is what made me wonder Quote Selected
Re: Coach Build Numbers Reply #109 – December 05, 2017, 10:30:40 pm Ok so it is 5179, where I was getting lost was the next string in the example is 4 numeric digits but mine is only 2 digits. Quote Selected
Re: Coach Build Numbers Reply #110 – December 05, 2017, 10:32:46 pm Quote from: Don & Tys (AKA acousticart) – December 05, 2017, 10:27:36 pmNCC= Net Carrying Capacity. The terminology and way of determining the cargo capacity or carrying capacity varied over the years. Since ours is a 99' and the build number is 5402, I think that your number must be 5179 (from the model number on the VIN# plaque. During this period, Foretravel was at their peak building about 225 to 250 coaches a year, so 5179 would be about right. Below is a close up of the model number on ours.DonThanks Don, so you only have 2 digits too for the Internal Designations part if the number? Quote Selected
Re: Coach Build Numbers Reply #111 – December 05, 2017, 10:47:51 pm The number following the build number (2 digits) is the length. The following two numbers Dan posted possibly refers to the fact that his has a tag axle, but just a guess.Don Quote Selected
Re: Coach Build Numbers Reply #112 – December 05, 2017, 10:54:24 pm Quote from: Don & Tys (AKA acousticart) – December 05, 2017, 10:47:51 pmThe number following the build number (2 digits) is the length. The following two numbers Dan posted possibly refers to the fact that his has a tag axle, but just a guess.DonOk, that makes sense, boy do I have a lot to learn Thanks Quote Selected
Re: Coach Build Numbers Reply #113 – December 05, 2017, 11:18:04 pm My build number 3504 is indicated on the alignment specs, and again in the model number. Quote Selected 1 Likes
Re: Coach Build Numbers Reply #114 – December 06, 2017, 07:17:35 am Quote from: Don & Tys (AKA acousticart) – December 05, 2017, 10:47:51 pmThe number following the build number (2 digits) is the length. The following two numbers Dan posted possibly refers to the fact that his has a tag axle, but just a guess.DonDon, The 4023 number broke down on Dan's era coach should be this40 is the length (You are correct about this)2 the number of slides3 the interior wood designation (seems like this number could be 0, 1, 2, or 3 depending on the wood used)Mike Quote Selected 2 Likes
Re: Coach Build Numbers Reply #115 – December 11, 2017, 02:19:22 pm I think I may have an interesting unit. 1996 U295 36Build #4879Vin indicates a 97' I believe (Formerly Elliott & Mary Bray's coach, Toonie) Quote Selected
Re: Coach Build Numbers Reply #116 – December 11, 2017, 02:36:24 pm Quote from: jwhardman – December 11, 2017, 02:19:22 pmI think I may have an interesting unit. 1996 U295 36Build #4879Vin indicates a 97' I believe (Formerly Elliott & Mary Bray's coach, Toonie)post a pic of the foretravel tag with the model # info Quote Selected
Re: Coach Build Numbers Reply #118 – December 11, 2017, 08:31:00 pm The 97 in the VIN is not the year. Also the coach was built in Oct of 1995 which would make it a 96. Quote Selected
Re: Coach Build Numbers Reply #119 – December 11, 2017, 08:43:30 pm Well, thank you sir! I misunderstood reading the Vin # for the model number and then the manufacture date really threw me for loop! Thanks again! Quote Selected
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