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Re: No throttle or cruise control 1993 u280 40 foot

Reply #25
Roland, can you actually see the cable and the break?? or are you just summizing this as it will not come back to idle??
If you have the Bendix and the above is happening take off the  CC5 air cylinder and carefully take it apart then lightly grease the inside bits and re assemble. The one I had on 240 was giving that problem and was fixed after doing what I mention.
Try it if cable not actually broken.
JohnH
Coachless, now use aircraft. 2003 Ford Travelair TC280 class C. Super shape. Just for 1 yr .
1994 Ford E350 ClassC,total renovation inside and out. Now sold.
2000 U295  36' Cummins 350 c/w Banks Stinger, Resonator upgrade,Solar, LED lites.Residential fridge with slide out pantry. Build 5674. Sold
ex 92 GV 022C ored Cummins. Sold
ex 95 GV240 cat 3116. Sold
2017 Mini cooper s & 2016 land Rover LR2 HSE  LUX.
jhaygarth@aol.com    SKP #130098
treat everyone as you would like to be.

Re: No throttle or cruise control 1993 u280 40 foot

Reply #26
John the cable is broken. Haven't taken it off yet. Contacted FOT, they asked for photos and length etc. But I can't seem to get an e.mail through to them. They come back as undeliverable. Even tried to reply to a text they sent me same problem. Something for tomorrow. Got to my brother's place in Sidney and am parked until I can replace the cable.



Roland
1993 U280 4341
2010 Jeep Liberty
The Pied Pipers

Re: No throttle or cruise control 1993 u280 40 foot

Reply #27
My experience has been... FOT does not answer emails promptly if ever.
Jim

2002 U320
Jim Frerichs
2002 U320 42'

Re: No throttle or cruise control 1993 u280 40 foot

Reply #28
Roland, you mean you do not have a spare in box 3??
Check your inventory ^.^d
I loved your method of finding something, that you showed me while in Q
JohnH
Coachless, now use aircraft. 2003 Ford Travelair TC280 class C. Super shape. Just for 1 yr .
1994 Ford E350 ClassC,total renovation inside and out. Now sold.
2000 U295  36' Cummins 350 c/w Banks Stinger, Resonator upgrade,Solar, LED lites.Residential fridge with slide out pantry. Build 5674. Sold
ex 92 GV 022C ored Cummins. Sold
ex 95 GV240 cat 3116. Sold
2017 Mini cooper s & 2016 land Rover LR2 HSE  LUX.
jhaygarth@aol.com    SKP #130098
treat everyone as you would like to be.


Re: No throttle or cruise control 1993 u280 40 foot

Reply #30
My experience has been... FOT does not answer emails promptly if ever.
Jim

2002 U320
There Email to FOT was to send them requested information, photos of the cable ends length of cable. Problem is their Email filter looks at my IP address and interprets it as spam so the message never goes through. Will try tomorrow using my computer.

Roland
1993 U280 4341
2010 Jeep Liberty
The Pied Pipers

Re: No throttle or cruise control 1993 u280 40 foot

Reply #31
Sent Foretravel photos of the cable and ends they will be shipping the throttle cable out tomorrow. Actually i couldn't get through their spam filter so Brent had me send the photos to his personal Email. Can't ask for better support on a twenty four year old coach. Kudos to FOT and Kudos to Brent.

Roland
1993 U280 4341
2010 Jeep Liberty
The Pied Pipers

Re: No throttle or cruise control 1993 u280 40 foot

Reply #32
Roland,

When you get the new cable in hand, be sure to take some photos of it before installation, and post them.  Try to show both ends of the cable in detail, and also any labels or identifying numbers on the cable itself.  This will be excellent info to have in the Forum archives.

Back when I had my problems with our throttle cable, the FOT parts guys searched high and low, but did not have anything in stock that would work.  They found a couple dusty old cables in their parts room, but both the length and the end fittings were incorrect for our coach.

(See link in Reply #12, earlier in this thread)

Since our coaches are "litter mates", I will be very interested to hear if this new cable fits and works correctly!
1993 U280 SE 40' WTBI, Build: 4359
C8.3 300hp, 6-Speed, Exhaust Brake
960 watts on the roof (6 x 160)
Sorento (or BOLT) on a Kar Kaddy SS
"Nature abhors a vacuum"

Re: No throttle or cruise control 1993 u280 40 foot

Reply #33
Roland,

When you get the new cable in hand, be sure to take some photos of it before installation, and post them.  Try to show both ends of the cable in detail, and also any labels or identifying numbers on the cable itself.  This will be excellent info to have in the Forum.

Will do have photos of the old cable and ends will post those also when I get the new cable.

Roland
1993 U280 4341
2010 Jeep Liberty
The Pied Pipers

Re: No throttle or cruise control 1993 u280 40 foot

Reply #34
Just received the throttle cable from FOT. The cable is about 15 inches shorter then the cables I took out. From what I remember of my conversation with Brent is that they don't have a throttle cable that long and don't remember putting one that long on a coach. I have a call in to Brent to make sure I have that correct.

If that is the case I plan on repositioning the throttle cylinder. Looks like it involves making one air hose longer and rerouting, or extending, the DC hookup on the cylinder. The current assembly is all mounted on the firewall at the foot of the bed, I plan on moving it, the air cylinder only, to the side. I don't think it should make any operational difference.

The party number on the cable is: Morse D303192-33 8IN  5555. Doing a Google search of that part number brings you to the Wanderlodge thread on throttle cables.

I just received a call back from Brent and has indicated that repositioning the throttle cable was not a problem. Great customer service.

Roland
1993 U280 4341
2010 Jeep Liberty
The Pied Pipers

Re: No throttle or cruise control 1993 u280 40 foot

Reply #35
I just ran across this on the web
Morse Cables ยป Hindle Controls
91 GV U300 Unihome 40' Build 3811
6V92TA Detroit

Re: No throttle or cruise control 1993 u280 40 foot

Reply #36
OK, completed the installation today. Easy Peasy mounted the air cylinder to a steel plate and moved it to the street side works like a charm. Although I haven't taken the coach on the road it appears threat I have full throttle if not that be just an adjustment. FOT part number for that cable according to my invoice is 102619. I have attached a photo, and yes I know the insulation needs replacing but with my other issues this is low on the priority list.

Roland
1993 U280 4341
2010 Jeep Liberty
The Pied Pipers

Re: No throttle or cruise control 1993 u280 40 foot

Reply #37
Easy Peasy mounted the air cylinder to a steel plate and moved it to the street side works like a charm.
He meant to say "curb side".  Roland is feeling a little woozy from breathing in all that loose insulation dust while working on his project.  :dance:
1993 U280 SE 40' WTBI, Build: 4359
C8.3 300hp, 6-Speed, Exhaust Brake
960 watts on the roof (6 x 160)
Sorento (or BOLT) on a Kar Kaddy SS
"Nature abhors a vacuum"


Re: No throttle or cruise control 1993 u280 40 foot

Reply #39
OK got some fresh air yes I did move the cylinder to the curb side.  :D

Roland
1993 U280 4341
2010 Jeep Liberty
The Pied Pipers

Re: No throttle or cruise control 1993 u280 40 foot

Reply #40
I just thought his rig was one of those British models made for export.......
Randy & Connie Peterson
Carlsbad, NM
1994 Grand Villa  #4593  SOLD
U240 36' Unihome CAT 3116 6 Speed Allison
Motorcader  17988    SKP  103142
2016 Ford F150 Towed Vehicle

Re: No throttle or cruise control 1993 u280 40 foot

Reply #41
Hello fellow Foretravelers!

I have the same issues with the bendix throttle cable and have found a place near me that will make a new one reusing parts from the original as per this thread from the Wanderlodge owners:

Bendix Throttle Cable and Throttle Cylinder(cc-5) - Wanderlodge Owners Group

California Push-Pull:
California Push-Pull Inc. Cable Specialists Based in Chico, Ca.

I emailed them pictures and David seems to remember making the same cable in the past.  estimated $60 -$80 to make a new one. I'm sending them my old one today, will update when it comes back.

Update:
got the cable back and works great.  I did notice we had more power on the Freeway as per a previous post about the old cable not allowing WOT.  Sorry I cannot remember where that post was.  Also made a new mounting plate from a 3/8" thick fiberglass sheet from McMaster Carr & stainless hardware. (because I have OCD)

Cheers.






Myron & Samantha Terry
Mick Terry
Scooby
Toad - 2013 Nissan Frontier

Re: No throttle or cruise control 1993 u280 40 foot

Reply #42
Thanks Myron, for this valuable find.  If they come through with a useable rebuilt cable, this will be of great interest to all of us with the Bendix air throttle & cruise control.

Looking forward to your report!
1993 U280 SE 40' WTBI, Build: 4359
C8.3 300hp, 6-Speed, Exhaust Brake
960 watts on the roof (6 x 160)
Sorento (or BOLT) on a Kar Kaddy SS
"Nature abhors a vacuum"

Re: No throttle or cruise control 1993 u280 40 foot

Reply #43
Thanks Myron, for the update to your post (above).  Glad to hear the cable works correctly.  So what was the total turn around time from the day you sent your old cable in to be rebuilt?  And, if you don't mind saying, what was the final price for the rebuild?
1993 U280 SE 40' WTBI, Build: 4359
C8.3 300hp, 6-Speed, Exhaust Brake
960 watts on the roof (6 x 160)
Sorento (or BOLT) on a Kar Kaddy SS
"Nature abhors a vacuum"

Re: No throttle or cruise control 1993 u280 40 foot

Reply #44
Total turnaround time was about a week.  It cost $68 something plus shipping.  Sorry I thought I included that info in the update, but it's been a long week.

Cheers
Myron & Samantha Terry
Mick Terry
Scooby
Toad - 2013 Nissan Frontier

Re: No throttle or cruise control 1993 u280 40 foot

Reply #45
If they have all the specs for the cable. I would like to purchase one and replace my old one. I'll keep the original as a spare and sleep better at night while traveling.
I would think they could sell several of these. Quickly.
Justin & Cathy Byrd
1995 U280 "Old Faithful"
36' Build #4673
C8.3 Cummins
Allison MD3060R 6 speed - retarder
Powertech 10KW  4cyl Kubota

Re: No throttle or cruise control 1993 u280 40 foot

Reply #46
Nice idea, but won't work.  If you refer to Reply #41 above, you'll see that they use the parts off your old cable to make the new one.
1993 U280 SE 40' WTBI, Build: 4359
C8.3 300hp, 6-Speed, Exhaust Brake
960 watts on the roof (6 x 160)
Sorento (or BOLT) on a Kar Kaddy SS
"Nature abhors a vacuum"

 

Re: No throttle or cruise control 1993 u280 40 foot

Reply #47
Yep
Missed that point in my excitement.
Now we need someone to fabricate those OEM parts.
A spare cable on board would be awesome.
Justin & Cathy Byrd
1995 U280 "Old Faithful"
36' Build #4673
C8.3 Cummins
Allison MD3060R 6 speed - retarder
Powertech 10KW  4cyl Kubota