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Another Allison Question

Sooo..... we've been out twice in the last month. Once to the Pacific Ocean, the Grays Harbor area and then up north to Olympic peninsula. On our first trip when we were getting ready to leave I started the coach, waited for it to level out (almost level out) and hit the big D button on the shift pad and moved forward, hooked up the toad and left the park. A hundred yards down the road I noticed the Allison was not shifting out of third, ( there were two 3s on the shift pad not a 6 and a 3). When I pulled over I shut everything off, started it up again, hit the big D button and everything was fine ( it showed a 6 and a 1, which soon became two 6s ). Drove home no problems.

On our second trip when we were getting ready to leave, same thing almost. This time when I started the engine there where no lights on the key pad. The usual N-N was not there, and the big D button did nothing. I shut everything off started it up and it was fine, pushed the big D button and drove home. Just now sat in the coach turned on the key and everything was fine.

Anyone have any comments/ideas? ( besides that maybe when we go somewhere we shouldn't try to leave! )

Eric, Mary and Carl the jack russel terrorist
1997 U320, #5143, w/450 hp, 6.9 on the richter scale
Sammie the toad
Live Free or Die

Re: Another Allison Question

Reply #1
Sounds to me like loose/dirty connections and or grounds at the key pad or module. Might try cleaning with electric contact cleaner.
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Reply #2
Intermittent connection from the shift pad to the trans.  The trans guy mentioned removing the cable at each end and reinsert it 10 times. 
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Reply #3
Bad connections, that makes sense why it works sometimes and not others.
Thanks
Eric, Mary and Carl the jack russel terrorist
1997 U320, #5143, w/450 hp, 6.9 on the richter scale
Sammie the toad
Live Free or Die

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Reply #4
There are 2 LARGE connectors that plug into the ECU. Pull them out and reinsert them and your problem will probably go away. Sounds like communication problem.
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Reply #5
Did it set any diagnostic codes?
Brett Wolfe
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Reply #6
This is the source, the manufacturer of De-Oxit.  This is the stuff to use to clean connectors.  Spray it on and corrosion and dirt appear to melt away.  Stay away from the can with the folding nozzle.

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Reply #7
Brett,
I did check for codes although I don't know how old they are, this is the first time I checked.
d-1            d-2          d-3          d-4          d-5
57              64            57            -                -
88              23            11            -              -
I did clear codes and will be looking again after my next trip, and I will clean the connections.
Thanks
Eric, Mary and Carl the jack russel terrorist
1997 U320, #5143, w/450 hp, 6.9 on the richter scale
Sammie the toad
Live Free or Die

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Reply #8
I did not know you could check Transmission Codes?  Care to share please?
Tom & Barb Root
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Reply #11
Thanks!  YouTube Vids explain it so much better, to me!  This one is Longer, but gave me more insight, especially when stuck!  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bnsmxjuxk0
Tom & Barb Root
'95, 40' U-320C SE, bought from Dave Head, 8/2017  FT Motorcade # 18196 Coach Build# 4663 October '94
2015 VW Golf Sportwagen, 1991 Suzuki Samurai, Off-Road Custom Build-Up, W/Toyota 22re mill, and a 2005 Chevy 2500HD, Duramax/Allison TOADS Will also pull a MacGregor 26X Powersailor 2001 Model, owned since new!

Retired SR Rocket Mechanic, FT Sales Associate @  FT of California, Escondido CA.!  and Retired USMC Gunnery Sergeant (Hence Retired Guns! ) Avionics Tech, on A6E Intruder & OV-10 Bronco Aircraft!  V/N Era Vet, and Desert Storm Participant.  Happily Retired now!