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Re: Operating 110vac Items on Inverter

Reply #25
If you are referring to the picture in post #6, I disagree. 

With AC power IN, and battery voltage reading of only 12.5 VDC and charge rate of only 10 amps, SOMETHING is wrong.

The charge amps should be near max for the charger section as it should be in bulk mode and trying to drive voltage up to bulk rate voltage of about 14 VDC. Even if in float mode, voltage is close to .7 VDC low.

I read the amp gauge differently, I see at least 10 amps but not 25 amps, there is 14 amp spread.
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Re: Operating 110vac Items on Inverter

Reply #26
I read the amp gauge differently, I see at least 10 amps but not 25 amps, there is 14 amp spread.

A very valid observation.

So, let's say the amp charge rate is 24 amps with voltage at 12.5 or maybe even 12.8.

Again assuming it has been properly programmed (battery bank size in amp-hrs, battery technology and ambient temperature unless optional battery temp sensor installed) 13.2 VDC is the very lowest float rate voltage acceptable, with absorption and bulk higher than that as well as higher at lower ambient temperatures.

That is why I suggested that something is wrong--the lower than float rate voltage would suggest that the charger section be at or close to max amp rate to bring up the batteries. The icons at the top accurately depict that the batteries are somewhat discharged, even though the charger section does have an external source of 120 VAC.
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Re: Operating 110vac Items on Inverter

Reply #27
I agree with Brett on this one, TGordon, all the inverter display is showing is the instant battery voltage.  So I ask this: is there a separate house batter charger?  Or is the battery charger built into the inverter.
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Re: Operating 110vac Items on Inverter

Reply #28
I agree with Brett on this one, TGordon, all the inverter display is showing is the instant battery voltage.  So I ask this: is there a separate house batter charger?  Or is the battery charger built into the inverter.
If it's OEM, there is a separate charger on the opposite side of the coach next to the wet compartment. They do fail. Ours did not have a stable float voltage. I read the Amazon reviews and went with the Progressive Dynamics charger/converter. +++

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Re: Operating 110vac Items on Inverter

Reply #29
I agree with Brett on this one, TGordon, all the inverter display is showing is the instant battery voltage.  So I ask this: is there a separate house batter charger?  Or is the battery charger built into the inverter.

Charger/inverter combi.
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Build #3410

Re: Operating 110vac Items on Inverter

Reply #30
If it's OEM, there is a separate charger on the opposite side of the coach next to the wet compartment. They do fail. Ours did not have a stable float voltage. I read the Amazon reviews and went with the Progressive Dynamics charger/converter. +++

Pierce
This one is a combination inverter charger, located in a forward bay away from the electrical bay.
1989 Foretravel U300 Grand Villa
Build #3410

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Reply #31
 Was this stock on the 89?  I dont think that I have any 115 V with out the gen or plugged in, on my 87-88 GV.
    I have not found any inverter, OE installed. 

Re: Operating 110vac Items on Inverter

Reply #32
Was this stock on the 89?  I dont think that I have any 115 V with out the gen or plugged in, on my 87-88 GV.
    I have not found any inverter, OE installed. 
FT installed equipment does indicate "75 Amp Converter-Charger" and separately, "1500 Watt Inverter" so perhaps the Xantrex combination Inverter/Charger was retrofitted.
1989 Foretravel U300 Grand Villa
Build #3410

Re: Operating 110vac Items on Inverter

Reply #33
Further to all of the previous, I am posting a photo taken today, showing Xantrex panel, with no auxiliary power, batts only, inverter switch on, but no 110vac supplied to the coach accessories.

1989 Foretravel U300 Grand Villa
Build #3410

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Reply #34
1989 Foretravel U300 Grand Villa
Build #3410

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Reply #35
FT installed equipment does indicate "75 Amp Converter-Charger" and separately, "1500 Watt Inverter" so perhaps the Xantrex combination Inverter/Charger was retrofitted.

Does anyone else have a 85-88 with the inverter?

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Reply #36
Xantrex manual says that this reading means the inverter is "inverting" though I am unable to explain why the display is showing "Incoming AC Breaker Amps" at 50 with no Gen or shore power, as well as not a single amp of AC available to lights, microwave panel, etc.
1989 Foretravel U300 Grand Villa
Build #3410

 

Re: Operating 110vac Items on Inverter

Reply #37
(1) Xantrex manual says that this reading means the inverter is "inverting"

(2) though I am unable to explain why the display is showing "Incoming AC Breaker Amps" at 50 with no Gen or shore power, as well as not a single amp of AC available to lights, microwave panel, etc.


(1) So can you warm up your cheese dog in the microwave?

(2) Because that's what the system is set to expect the next time shore power or the generator magically appears?  To the system, AC is AC, it has no way of knowing how much AC is available unless you tell the system.
1992 Foretravel Grand Villa
U225 SBID Build No. 4134
1986 Rockwood Driftwood
1968 S.I.A.T.A. Spring
1962 Studebaker Lark
1986 Honda VF700C
1983 Honda VF750C
Charlie, the Dog was broken out of jail 24 Oct 2023
N1RPN
AA1OH (H)e who must be obeyed.