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generator bearing

Getting ready for a trip and decided to look inside the generator head as I am having circuit breaker problems. As long as I was there will put in a new end bearing. There are no new circuit breakers for my generator so I have bought 3 used ones off Ebay and just didn't believe that they are all bad is why the inspection. Everything looks good so back together tomorrow and will try a new circuit breaker that will require making a mounting plate to see if that fixes the issue. Jeff can't be reached until Thu. as he is taking a class of some kind so I am on my own on this.
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
Dream as if you will live forever. Live as if you will die today.  James Dean

Re: generator bearing

Reply #1 –
Chuck,

Is your end bearing a 6207-2R?

Mike
Pamela & Mike 97 U 320

"It's not what happens to you, but how you react to it that matters."

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Reply #2 –
6207-rz came off but 6207-2rs Is what I am replacing it with. The only 6207-rz's were made in China I am getting a Japanize one
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
Dream as if you will live forever. Live as if you will die today.  James Dean

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Reply #3 –
If anybody can do it, you can Chuck!
Richard & Betty Bark & Keiko our Golden Doodle
2003 U320T 3820 PBDS
Build # 6215
MC # 16926
2016 Chevrolet Colorado 4X4 diesel

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Reply #4 –
More generator fun😬😬😬
Bruce, Linda, and Macy
Zoey RIP 1/20/19
1999 U295 40' build #5400
2017 silver Jeep Wrangler, 1260 watts of solar on top
Moving around the country

Re: generator bearing

Reply #5 –
Well, the answer is yes you can have 3 bad circuit breakers bought off Ebay. The new one Mike suggested is working fine, just needs some modifications on the control box to use it. Ran both airs for 45 minutes coach was like a meat locker inside. Need to make a 2" object mount in a 4" hole.
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
Dream as if you will live forever. Live as if you will die today.  James Dean

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Reply #6 –
Hey Chuck, I'm watching closely. Where did you find the good breaker?
Bruce, Linda, and Macy
Zoey RIP 1/20/19
1999 U295 40' build #5400
2017 silver Jeep Wrangler, 1260 watts of solar on top
Moving around the country

Re: generator bearing

Reply #7 –
Chuck,

I don't know if the Dr had burnt up some brain cells or what but I didn't realize till these pics it looks like you have the Kubota engine rather than the Isuzu.

Could you post a good pic of the info plate of that generator head?

Mike
Pamela & Mike 97 U 320

"It's not what happens to you, but how you react to it that matters."

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Reply #8 –
Mike will get pic later. Finished making the adaptor now just the lid and the belly pan and I am done.
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
Dream as if you will live forever. Live as if you will die today.  James Dean

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Reply #9 –
Was this the first time the bearing had been changed?  What kind of condition did you find it to be in?  I notice that you have 1,575 hours on your generator which is almost exactly what I have on mine.  I'm planning to replace mine before August.
George Mann
2002 U320 #5934
2017 Rubicon
2013 BMW GS
Waterford MI

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Reply #10 –
Chuck,

They sure changed breakers between ours and yours as I didn't need to build an adaptor plate. That mount plate will be there long after you hang up the keys.

Mike
Pamela & Mike 97 U 320

"It's not what happens to you, but how you react to it that matters."

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Reply #11 –
It's not the hours that are hard on bearings, it's the banging down the road with out turning is what is
hard on them.
Peter and Frieda Morin
1999 36ft. U320 Foretravel
Build # 5436
1998 Suzuki Sidekick Sport

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Reply #12 –
Quote from: Geodmann –
Was this the first time the bearing had been changed?  What kind of condition did you find it to be in?  I notice that you have 1,575 hours on your generator which is almost exactly what I have on mine.  I'm planning to replace mine before August.

That is the hours of the engine. I put a new head on when I fried the old one putting a voltage regulator on. Maybe 200 hours max since then. Bearing is smooth but threw some grease out of the seals, not much. Just decided as long as I had to drain some of the coolant and unhook things to just put a new bearing on while most of the labor was already done.
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
Dream as if you will live forever. Live as if you will die today.  James Dean

Re: generator bearing

Reply #13 –
Quote from: Pamela & Mike –
Chuck,

I don't know if the Dr had burnt up some brain cells or what but I didn't realize till these pics it looks like you have the Kubota engine rather than the Isuzu.

Could you post a good pic of the info plate of that generator head?

Mike

Here's the photo. Remember I bought the last head available direct from Powertech when I fried the original one. There is a story about the Kabota being in my coach. My paperwork shows the original owner took the coach back under warrantee and had the Villa's switched to Flexsteel as he wanted more room and had the Isuzu replaced by the Kabota generator. He complained the Isuzu vibrated too much and had that done under warrantee also.
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
Dream as if you will live forever. Live as if you will die today.  James Dean

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Reply #14 –
Thanks for the pic. as with that info someone can snoop around to see what is available from a local motor shop. The frame info is much of the search for a replacement.

Mike
Pamela & Mike 97 U 320

"It's not what happens to you, but how you react to it that matters."

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Reply #15 –
Mike I have an Isuzu 10k. The new Marathon CSA3020 pancake generator head I installed last year with a 5-6.5 adaption( the only way it was available)I had a machine shop make me some 7.5 plates for the Isuzu flywheel 100 bucks.
Bruce, Linda, and Macy
Zoey RIP 1/20/19
1999 U295 40' build #5400
2017 silver Jeep Wrangler, 1260 watts of solar on top
Moving around the country

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Reply #16 –
Bruce,

Do you have a pic or sketch of the plate?  What I am doing while confined here at home base is figure out what a member need to do to replace the power head if there's has failed. With none available from Powertech I'm working on a back up plan for us tinkerers.

Mike
Pamela & Mike 97 U 320

"It's not what happens to you, but how you react to it that matters."

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Reply #17 –
Here you are Mike. This generator comes with a metal box wired to their regulator. You need to remove their box and use the regulator that comes with it. Our box will bolt right up. Now the old Powertech is a 10 lead, this Marathon is an 8 lead 4 for the generator 4 for the regulator, all well marked. It is only available in SAE 5 bell housing and 6.5 adaption(it says it can be ordered in 7.5 but not so)That said on my Isuzu it had a 7.5 adaption. And the bolt pattern on the armature was different than the old PT head. So I had a machine shop make new ones off of the old and new plates. Not a big deal. Be aware once to go the Marathon route Jeff will not talk to you about the Marathon head.
Bruce, Linda, and Macy
Zoey RIP 1/20/19
1999 U295 40' build #5400
2017 silver Jeep Wrangler, 1260 watts of solar on top
Moving around the country

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Reply #18 –
Bruce,

Thanks for this info as this is what we need to know as a group so someone can replace their power head in case of a failure. There is no need to re-invent the wheel when others have done been down this road.  People need to realize that there comes a time that when you are working on an antique vehicle you have to be creative and resourceful.

Mike
Pamela & Mike 97 U 320

"It's not what happens to you, but how you react to it that matters."
 

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Reply #19 –
You are right Mike. Things are getting harder to find, and real pricey for these old coaches.
Bruce, Linda, and Macy
Zoey RIP 1/20/19
1999 U295 40' build #5400
2017 silver Jeep Wrangler, 1260 watts of solar on top
Moving around the country