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Need help with HWH System and Water Line Check Valves

I love my new coach but there are two issues with which I need some help.

1. When I am hooked up to city water, the coach water tank slowly fills even with the fill valve turned off. I presume this is due to a faulty check valve either in the water pump or somewhere else I don't know about. Is there a check valve for the toilet that may be the cause? Where else might I find a check valve in the water line?

2. My old coach was a Hydraulic HWH system. No problems with it but with the new Air HWH system I don't seem to be able to get it exactly level. With the Hydraulic system I was able to adjust each of the four directions manually to perfect the level. With this one it seems as though once it automatically finds it own level, I cannot raise the individual sides with the arrows. Is the HWH Air system automatic only? Shouldn't I be raise one side or the other with the arrow buttons? How much travel does the air system have?
The selected media item is not currently available.Kent Speers
Locust Grove, OK
1993 U300 SSE 40' (Restored at FOT 2009) Build 4323
720 watts Solar
6V92TA DDEC Silver Engine
2014 Subaru Outback

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With the new Air HWH system I don't seem to be able to get it exactly level. With the Hydraulic system I was able to adjust each of the four directions manually to perfect the level. With this one it seems as though once it automatically finds it own level, I cannot raise the individual sides with the arrows. Is the HWH Air system automatic only? Shouldn't I be raise one side or the other with the arrow buttons? How much travel does the air system have?
You have 2 choices to level. Automatic or Manual.
When you hit the level button once you can now adjust it manually with the arrow buttons.
When you hit it twice it goes into automatic level.


If it is not leveling properly on automatic you can adjust the sensors.

http://www.beamalarm.com/Documents/foretravel_hwh_leveling_sensor_adjustment.html
The selected media item is not currently available.Barry BEAM #16014
2003 U320 40' AGDS
Beamalarm, Foretravel technical help and specifications
"Whatever the mind can conceive and believe, it can achieve"

Re: Need help with HWH System and Water Line Check Valves

Reply #2 –
Kent,

On my 1997 U295, I press the HWH "On" button one time to enable manual leveling. The previous owner installed a couple of bubble levels near the driver's chair. I use them guide me to a level position as I use the "Arrow" buttons. I think the manual recommends leveling side to side, then front to back. After I touch the button the second time, the system goes to "monitor" mode. It checks for out of level about every 30 minutes, and makes corrections.

The other option is to simply press the "On" button twice, and let the system automatically level the coach. On our coach, the sensor is attached to the floor behind the U-Line ice maker. I pulled the ice maker and tweaked the sensor to give the best leveling. I used bubble levels on the floor and various cabinets to set the coach in what I considered the most level attitude. I then tweaked the sensor while Marilyn watch the yellow "out of level" light on the HWH pad. I tried to set the sensor to mid way between the trigger points for "out of level." A fraction of a turn of the screw driver would make a significant difference.

My understanding is that the air bags can handle up to eight inches of differential between any two corners. The corners would be the locations of the wheels.

The "new" coach sounds great! Enjoy!
J D Stevens
1997 U295 CAI 36' Build #5085
2002 Subaru Outback
Motorcade 16869
Bellville, TX

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When I am hooked up to city water, the coach water tank slowly fills even with the fill valve turned off. I presume this is due to a faulty check valve either in the water pump or somewhere else I don't know about. Is there a check valve for the toilet that may be the cause? Where else might I find a check valve in the water line?
I believe the check valve is directly behind the water connection. The check valve and the water inlet are screwed together.
http://www.foreforums.com/index.php?topic=6005.msg25118#msg25118
The selected media item is not currently available.Barry BEAM #16014
2003 U320 40' AGDS
Beamalarm, Foretravel technical help and specifications
"Whatever the mind can conceive and believe, it can achieve"

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Quote from: Kent Speers –

1. When I am hooked up to city water, the coach water tank slowly fills even with the fill valve turned off. I presume this is due to a faulty check valve either in the water pump or somewhere else I don't know about.

Could it also be the fill valve itself leaking through?
Learn every day, but especially from the experiences of others. It's cheaper!  - John C. Bogle

2000 U320 36' non-slide / WildEBeest Rescue
2003 U320

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Reply #5 –
Kent,
Our 2000 doesn't always get the level just right, but I always let it try in auto mode.  After it finishes doing its thing I can fine tune the level if necessary.  I do that by having the engine shut down and then turning off the HWH using the OFF button (bottom left on HWH pad) then one touch of the LEVEL button and then finish leveling manually.  After I finish I touch the LEVEL once more so that I leave the system back in auto mode.  I'm not positive if this last step is necessary, but it has never caused me any problems so I keep doing it.
Paul
36" 2000 U320
Paul
36' 2000 U320
2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee Summit

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Our 2000 doesn't always get the level just right, but I always let it try in auto mode.  After it finishes doing its thing I can fine tune the level if necessary.  I do that by having the engine shut down and then turning off the HWH using the OFF button (bottom left on HWH pad) then one touch of the LEVEL button and then finish leveling manually.  After I finish I touch the LEVEL once more so that I leave the system back in auto mode.  I'm not positive if this last step is necessary, but it has never caused me any problems so I keep doing it. 
How do you determine what is "right?"
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best, paul
"Thriving not surviving" <(*¿*)>
Paul Schaye (at 2008 NYC Marathon) "Life is what happens when you are doing other things!"
 
"If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much room!"
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1999 U320 40' 1200 watts on roof. 12cf AC/DC Cold plate fridge/freezer. VMS 240 CL Honda Element

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Beth & I camp in some places where we cannot level.  If my trigonometry is right, on my short 34 footer (assuming a 168 inch wheel base), the most I can level is a 3 degree slope.  So we carry some leveling planks for such unlevel spots.  I do manually level at times when I do not get all corners right.  Then I just turn off the HWH system so the pump does not run continuously thinking the air bags need air to level.
Peter & Beth Martin
No Forrest? What have you done?
MC# 15890 until Dec 2016; FMCA #F329677
Cincinnati, OH

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Paul, I use my superhuman, extra sensitive internal human ultra-balance,


and a bubble level or two.

Seriously, if it isn't right, I can feel it and it drives me nuts.
The selected media item is not currently available.Kent Speers
Locust Grove, OK
1993 U300 SSE 40' (Restored at FOT 2009) Build 4323
720 watts Solar
6V92TA DDEC Silver Engine
2014 Subaru Outback

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Relative to what?
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best, paul
"Thriving not surviving" <(*¿*)>
Paul Schaye (at 2008 NYC Marathon) "Life is what happens when you are doing other things!" "If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much room!"
 
See our blog at LazyDazers.com
 
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and a bubble level or two.
1999 U320 40' 1200 watts on roof. 12cf AC/DC Cold plate fridge/freezer. VMS 240 CL Honda Element