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Re: Clarification needed - dash solenoid issues

Reply #25 –
I need some help....  When I was at the coach today, I opened the domed portion of the dash right above the portion of the dash with the gauges, right in front of the driver seat.  I tried to locate the Ignition solenoid (Cole Hersee 200Amp contactor probably?).  I did not see anything that looked anything like the BlueSea or the Tyco devices.

I also looked in the electrical panel in the dash just in front of the entry steps in front of the passenger seat.  I saw two devices at the very bottom of this panel, but I am not sure if either one of these is the Cole Hersee device that is recommended to be replaced with the Blue Sea 9012 device.

Can someone tell me where I can find the location of the existing (Cole Hersee?) device in our 1997 U270?

I want to look at how it is wired up so I can determine how to wire in the Tyco unit in case we have a problem.

Thank you.

Thank you.
Morris and Janice
1997 U270 36'

Re: Clarification needed - dash solenoid issues

Reply #26 –
Morris,
Unfortunately the only picture I have of the area where the ignition solenoid is located is blocked by one of the HVAC dash duct work  hoses.  This relay is located just behind the duct portion laying flat inside the dash.
Peter & Beth Martin
No Forrest? What have you done?
MC# 15890 until Dec 2016; FMCA #F329677
Cincinnati, OH

Re: Clarification needed - dash solenoid issues

Reply #27 –
Quote from: Peter & Beth –
Morris,
Unfortunately the only picture I have of the area where the ignition solenoid is located is blocked by one of the HVAC dash duct work  hoses.  This relay is located just behind the duct portion laying flat inside the dash. 

Thank you very much Peter.  I presume it is located behind the horizontal portion of the left duct in the picture.  Am I correct?

When I opened this compartment on our coach today, there are 2 small cube shaped devices at the bottom of that compartment.  Is yours the same?  If so, is the correct one the device on the left when looking toward the front of the coach?

Next time I am back at the coach and I know which device to look at, I will look much more closely at it to better understand how to connect the Tyco unit.

BTW, earlier you had a question concerning the rated number of cycles of the Tyco unit vs. the Blue Sea unit.  Are the 1,000,000 cycles mechanical cycles for both units?  The Tyco unit has a 50,000 cycle rating for some electrical aspect, which I do not understand.
Morris and Janice
1997 U270 36'

Re: Clarification needed - dash solenoid issues

Reply #28 –
Morris,
The current continuous duty solenoid I have installed looks like this:
New Cole Hersee Co. 24401 12V Insulated DPST Solenoid on eBay!

The Tyco unit is lower rated than the Blue Sea in terms of rated operating cycles (that's each time the solenoid is engaged).  I do not understand why the rating is lower as to me they appear to be exactly the same.  But, there must be something else to it.
Peter & Beth Martin
No Forrest? What have you done?
MC# 15890 until Dec 2016; FMCA #F329677
Cincinnati, OH

Re: Clarification needed - dash solenoid issues

Reply #29 –
I need to correct the previously posted information.  I found the below data sheet for the Tyco brand solenoid:

http://www.evsource.com/datasheets/tyco/EV200_ds.pdf

According to this data sheet, the number of operating cycles for this unit is 1,000,000 as well as the Blue Sea.
Peter & Beth Martin
No Forrest? What have you done?
MC# 15890 until Dec 2016; FMCA #F329677
Cincinnati, OH

Re: Clarification needed - dash solenoid issues

Reply #30 –
Morris,

There was a thread on the Forums not long ago regarding newer coaches having two solenoids in that compartment near the floor. The two do the job of the single ignition solenoid in older coaches. As I understand it, the failure rate of the two ignition solenoids is GREATLY reduced. Others will expand upon this, I am sure.
Don Hay
'92 Grandvilla, U-280
The Hayfever Express
Build #4055
'97 GEO Tracker
Life is like licking honey off a thorn.

Re: Clarification needed - dash solenoid issues

Reply #31 –
Quote from: Don Hay –
Morris,

There was a thread on the Forums not long ago regarding newer coaches having two solenoids in that compartment near the floor. The two do the job of the single ignition solenoid in older coaches. As I understand it, the failure rate of the two ignition solenoids is GREATLY reduced. Others will expand upon this, I am sure. 


Interesting.... I would be surprised if our 1997 U270 has the two solenoids vs. the single solenoid...unless it has been modified at some point in time.  I wonder how I can find out?    I don't know what manufacture the two devices are in our coach.  I purchased the Tyco unit as a spare to have in case ours failed since it is getting fairly old.
Morris and Janice
1997 U270 36'

Re: Clarification needed - dash solenoid issues

Reply #32 –
Quote from: Peter & Beth –
I need to correct the previously posted information.  I found the below data sheet for the Tyco brand solenoid:

http://www.evsource.com/datasheets/tyco/EV200_ds.pdf

According to this data sheet, the number of operating cycles for this unit is 1,000,000 as well as the Blue Sea. 

Good!!  I am VERY glad.... I purchased the Tyco unit from the location in St. Petersburg, FL thinking it was the same specs as the Blue Sea 9012. In fact, Tyco said they were identical.....
Morris and Janice
1997 U270 36'