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Reply #75
I went electric! I used a Samsung from Lowe's. It went in through the door. I lost the lower cabinet but picked up about 3 times the volume in the fridge. Any one looking for a working Dometic?
1999 U320
Mount Dora Fl

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Reply #76
Very nice! I have one of their dryers at home. It plays tunes for us!
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Titusville, FL - The Great Outdoors
'98 270 buying this month
Toad is a 2018 F150 XLT

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Reply #77
I went electric! I used a Samsung from Lowe's. It went in through the door.

Model number, please? 

Was this a swap-out for an NDR1492 (or what were the dimensions of the Dometic)?  More details on the installation are always welcome (encouraged, actually).

Michelle
Learn every day, but especially from the experiences of others. It's cheaper!  - John C. Bogle

2000 U320 36' non-slide / WildEBeest Rescue
2003 U320

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Reply #78
Michelle, we completed building our winter home in Tucson last December, and (from philtravel's photo) this appears to be the same model, except ours is black.  Our model number is RS265TDBP.

At the time we spec'd the appliances--and currently--this is ConsumerReports.org's top rated side-by-side.  CR lists a price of $1200; Lowes currently has a sale (through 10/10/12) for $1170; and last fall the Lowe's price (which our builder's supplier matched) was $1050.

On edit:  With that depth :o it probably is the counter-depth version, model RSG257AABP/XAA (Counter Depth 36" wide Black Side by Side Refrigerator 24 cu. ft. Energy Star |), with listed dimensions of 35 3/4" x 68 5/8" x 27 3/16" (including handles).  Lowes has this on sale for $1709.

We used it for 5 months before we left on our summer trip in mid-May - and found it to be very quiet and easy to manipulate shelves to our liking, plus the rear LED lighting in the interior was excellent.

The dimensions for our model are 35-3/4 wide, 69-7/8, and 36-1/2 deep (per the Samsung website: 36" wide Black Side by Side Refrigerator 26 cu. ft. Energy Star | Samsung).

While I like this model in the S&B, I'd really like to find a model which doesn't necessitate the loss of the two wonderful cabinets below our current NDR1492!  ???
The selected media item is not currently available.Pat Hatfield
2000 U295 3600 #5666 WTFE (sold 1/7/20)
2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee
previously: 2003 U295 3610 #6228 (sold 5/29/14)
previously:  2009 Honda CRV (sold 6/9/14)

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Reply #79
I think you will love your new fridge. Having a all electric coach for better part of seven years we love ours.  However a recent change in the extended warrenty's for the Amana, Maytag, Kitchen Aide and many others is the exclusion of a RV based install for coverage.  When we first bought our coach we thought we should get the extended warranty.  we did and continued on bi-annual basis until this past April when we say the exclusion.  I called the manufacturer and they confirmed that Rv use was not covered and would not in the future.  I have not heard of any of the electric owners that I know have any problems, but should we we are on our own.  Personally I think that sucks.  Only thought is to remove fridge and put it in garage or other part of home and get service.  Seems like potentially a lot of trouble.  your thoughts?

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Reply #80
We are building a garage apartment at my sister's house for our mother.  That is the fridge we are putting in...$1170 from Lowes.  It is 30" wide, 31" deep and 68" high.  Home Depot has no side by side that width but perhaps the box stores do.
Dwayne Keith
1992 U240
3116/MD3060

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Reply #81
OK, The old Dometic was 59"x36"x24" Model#NDR1282 Ser.# 72900011. Anyone know how to decipher the date code?

The new, Samsung RSG257AARS Cap. 24.5Cu FT. Overall depth is 29 3/16" including the handles.  The box without the doors is 24" deep. The handle stick out far but I think we will live with it. I they bother us I may make some smaller handles. The width is 35 3/4" The height is 68 5/8".  It weighs 254LBS. seems lighter than the old Dometic! It claims 445 KWH/year,energy star

I said I bought at Lowes? (guess I was reading other posts) as I bought it at Best Buy for 1770.00 they do price matching so I will check and see if they have it at Lowes seeing that others have paid less. I suspect they are different models as it was on sale when I bought it.

I am still figuring out if I should seal the side vent or let it breath and seal  around the refridge or seal the vents from outside and let the top and sides breath into the interior space? What are others doing?
1999 U320
Mount Dora Fl

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Reply #82
If you have the rear condenser coils (like the Whirlpool 10 Cu Ft), then you should leave the external vents open and seal around the fridge (that's what I did).  Heat has to go somewhere, and the cooling chimney is well set up for that.  If you have the bottom condenser and fan, you're probably stuck with recirculating the heat from the condenser into the living space unless you can put in some sort of front ducting to circulate outside air under the bottom and out the top.)
Dave and Nancy
1999/2013 U270 36' Xtreme
Motorcade # 16774
2013 Subaru Outback
KD0NIM

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Reply #83
I installed this Bosch refrigerator. I did not close off the vent to the outside behind the refrigerator. I like the access behind the unit and the ability to get to the icemaker and  filtered water water lines that run behind it.

I will make a insulated cover for winter so the warm air that comes off the refrigerator stay in side the coach. I did put a screen on the inside of the outside vented cover to keep bugs out.

I did put a vent above the refrigerator to help it breath.
1995 U320C SE 40'
Jeep 4x4 Commander - Limited - Hemi
"The Pack"  Yogi and Diesel our Airedales -  Charlie our Boxer/Akita mix. Gone but NEVER forgotten Jake our yellow Lab.
NRA Law Enforcement Firearms instructor - Handgun/shotgun
Regional Firearms instructor for national Armored Transp. Co.

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Reply #84
I called FOT and asked how the new all elect. coaches where built. They are sealed and all the circulation stays inside the coach. I think I will do the same. I will still have the vents removable but I will seal the venting.
1999 U320
Mount Dora Fl

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Reply #85
I installed this Bosch refrigerator. I did not close off the vent to the outside behind the refrigerator. I like the access behind the unit and the ability to get to the icemaker and  filtered water water lines that run behind it.

I will make a insulated cover for winter so the warm air that comes off the refrigerator stay in side the coach. I did put a screen on the inside of the outside vented cover to keep bugs out.

I did put a vent above the refrigerator to help it breath.

So from your pics the slideout drawer column next to the pocket door came out for your install too. That's more reefer than I need!
The selected media item is not currently available. Dave Head & Megan Westbrook
Titusville, FL - The Great Outdoors
'98 270 buying this month
Toad is a 2018 F150 XLT

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Reply #86
On the Lowes unit I installed I sealed around front opening with black silicone caulk to the wood frame and it matches so well you do not see it. I have also got a 1" blue styrofoam panel I made that is cut in 2 and I can either put it in as insulation when not using the coach but also take it outif I want when fridge is running, takes 30 secs to do. I use the roof vent as heat outlet. I also have a seperate 1000 watt pure sine inv fitted into end cabinet of bed that is wired to a DPDT switch so I can run it on any form of power input I like and the smaller inv  uses less standby power too. It all works well and I thank barry B for the idea and help last year.
John h
Coachless, now use aircraft. 2003 Ford Travelair TC280 class C. Super shape. Just for 1 yr .
1994 Ford E350 ClassC,total renovation inside and out. Now sold.
2000 U295  36' Cummins 350 c/w Banks Stinger, Resonator upgrade,Solar, LED lites.Residential fridge with slide out pantry. Build 5674. Sold
ex 92 GV 022C ored Cummins. Sold
ex 95 GV240 cat 3116. Sold
2017 Mini cooper s & 2016 land Rover LR2 HSE  LUX.
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Reply #87
So from your pics the slideout drawer column next to the pocket door came out for your install too. That's more reefer than I need!

There is a floor to ceiling cabinet next to the refrigerator between the refrigerator and the pocket door. The refrigerator does not take up that entire area. The cabinet is about 10" wide.
There is actually more room than that available. I think there could be at least 12". The wall between the refrigerator and the counter top was moved over about 3/4" to accommodate the clearance needed for the door swing of the micro/convection oven. There is also about 1 1/2" clearance on both sides of the refrigerator enclosure.
I had a empty canvas for the install and had no idea what was there before.
 
1995 U320C SE 40'
Jeep 4x4 Commander - Limited - Hemi
"The Pack"  Yogi and Diesel our Airedales -  Charlie our Boxer/Akita mix. Gone but NEVER forgotten Jake our yellow Lab.
NRA Law Enforcement Firearms instructor - Handgun/shotgun
Regional Firearms instructor for national Armored Transp. Co.

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Reply #88
For my U225 none of the refrigerators you folks installed and describe would be feasible. Although the photos are certainly helpful and the installation jobs are amazing. The mechanical and wood-working talent among Foretravel owners (or at least Foreforum users) is truly impressive.

Given that, I expect that someone, somewhere, must have installed a domestic type refrigerator in their Grand Villa.

Hopefully, there are pictures and model descriptions. I'm not looking forward to removing any windows.

Craig
1993 U225 36' Unihome GV with PACBRAKE exhaust retarder, Banks Stinger and Solar Panels.
Toad: 1999 Jeep Wrangler 2-door soft-top.

"No one has ever had to evacuate a city because the solar panels broke."

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Reply #89
Craig,

A number of members including myself have installed the 10 cuft Whirlpool reefer which will go in through the door.  Jerry and Coleen have pictures of one in your coach.  Perhaps a search will turn up their post of pictures if they do not chime in here.
Rudy Legett
2003 U320 4010 ISM 450 hp
2001 U320 4220 ISM 450 hp
1995 U320 M11 400 hp
1990 Granvilla 300 hp 3208T
Aqua Hot Service Houston and Southeast Texas

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Reply #90
Craig,
A Foreforum member (user name Merle Hench) has a 91 u225 and did the install with pictures here: Residential fridge
Don
For my U225 none of the refrigerators you folks installed and describe would be feasible. Although the photos are certainly helpful and the installation jobs are amazing. The mechanical and wood-working talent among Foretravel owners (or at least Foreforum users) is truly impressive.

Given that, I expect that someone, somewhere, must have installed a domestic type refrigerator in their Grand Villa.

Hopefully, there are pictures and model descriptions. I'm not looking forward to removing any windows.

Craig
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Don & Tys
1999 U270 3602 WTFE #5402
Xtreme Stage 1 w/Headlight, Step Conversion, etc.
2009 Honda Fit Sport with Navi
Freedom is NOT "just another word for nothing left to lose"... with apologies to Kris Kristofferson

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Reply #91
Don,

He did a nice, neat job. Like the galvanized floor, etc. For GV owners, I can say that if the new refrigerator will fit in the old compartment width, it will come through the entry door with only the hand rail needed to be removed  (EZ). Two guys and about a minute to get it from the ground in the door and on the floor. Really pays to have all the work done ahead of time so it can go straight in the hole. Wonder how I know this?

Pierce
Pierce and Gaylie Stewart
'93 U300/36 WTBI
Detroit 6V-92TA Jake
1140 watts on the roof
SBFD (ret)

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Reply #92
Pierce,
He sure did! Also great job with the solar, inverter, and battery upgrades, as well as a music recording workstation... he finished and then headed off to parts unknown in Canada somewhere, probably off grid. I haven't seen any posts from him (Steve, aka Merle Hench)... from him since. Wonder how it is working for him... Steve... if you read this, let us know how you have fared with all the upgrades!
Don
Don,

He did a nice, neat job. Like the galvanized floor, etc. For GV owners, I can say that if the new refrigerator will fit in the old compartment width, it will come through the entry door with only the hand rail needed to be removed  (EZ). Two guys and about a minute to get it from the ground in the door and on the floor. Really pays to have all the work done ahead of time so it can go straight in the hole. Wonder how I know this?

Pierce
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Don & Tys
1999 U270 3602 WTFE #5402
Xtreme Stage 1 w/Headlight, Step Conversion, etc.
2009 Honda Fit Sport with Navi
Freedom is NOT "just another word for nothing left to lose"... with apologies to Kris Kristofferson

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Reply #93
I only see one problem with that swap for me.  The inverter is in the same cabinet as where my cat's box is currently located.  But I do think I could place the inverter in the basement compartment under the refrigerator.
1994 U225
build #4514

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Reply #94
he finished and then headed off to parts unknown in Canada somewhere, probably off grid. I haven't seen any posts from him (Steve, aka Merle Hench)... from him since. Wonder how it is working for him...
Now you got me worried and wondering how he is doing!!!
1994 U225
build #4514

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Reply #95
Craig,
A Foreforum member (user name Merle Hench) has a 91 u225 and did the install with pictures here: Residential fridge
Don

Thanks, Don. His coach is exactly like mine. However that refrigerator doesn't seem to be on Lowe's any more. And I actually kind of like the vacuum and its compartment. So I think I'll see if I can't find something that will fit into the space occupied by the Dometic. The fridge in there is about 18 months old so it might last a while before bursting into flames.

Craig
1993 U225 36' Unihome GV with PACBRAKE exhaust retarder, Banks Stinger and Solar Panels.
Toad: 1999 Jeep Wrangler 2-door soft-top.

"No one has ever had to evacuate a city because the solar panels broke."

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Reply #96
Craig,

My rv fixit guy ordered the 10 cuft Whirlpool and had a 3 week wait but it is arriving this week.  He does so many here he keeps on in stock.
Rudy Legett
2003 U320 4010 ISM 450 hp
2001 U320 4220 ISM 450 hp
1995 U320 M11 400 hp
1990 Granvilla 300 hp 3208T
Aqua Hot Service Houston and Southeast Texas


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Reply #98
I think rumors of the Whirlpool 9.7's demise are probably correct.
I followed Barry's link and got the page for the white one but when I did a search on the Lowes site using their search engine I got a "...not found..".

Worse, I searched AJ Madison (my favorite appliance online store) and they mark the series as "discontinued".
Whirlpool ET0MSRXTQ 9.7 cu. ft. Top-Freezer Refrigerator with 2 Glass Shelves,

This isn't to say there are not some in the supply chain but I'm worried.

The AJ Madison suggested refer. was the 11 cu Whirlpool WRT111SFAB
Whirlpool WRT111SFAB 11 cu. ft. Top-Freezer Refrigerator with 2 Removable Wire

The Whirlpool current products site only has the WRT11SFAx line.
See http://www.whirlpool.com/digitalassets/WRT111SFAF/Dimension%20Guide_EN.pdf
for dimensions. Same 24" wide but a little taller and a touch deeper.

Too Bad... (That's what happened to my favorite stack-able washer and dryer set too)

HTH
Elliott & Mary Bray
ex. 1996 36' U295 - Build 4879
ex. 2018 Coachmen Leprechaun 319MB
 

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Reply #99
I think this one will work:  Shop Haier 10.3 cu ft Top-Freezer Refrigerator (White) at Lowes.com 
Height: case is 58.93 and door hinge is 59.43.  Width is 23.62.  And the depth including handles is 26.18.  Depth with Door Open (Inches) is   49.76.

 Page with measurements:  http://pdf.lowes.com/dimensionsguides/688057304892_meas.pdf.

391 kWh Estimated Yearly Electricity Use.  Not Engery Star rated.
1994 U225
build #4514