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Re: Information share, 1999 - 2001 FTs

Reply #25 – April 11, 2012, 07:08:53 pm

Barry, what I had in mind was beyond how to open the four valves that you connect connect up the strap and winch (ratchet) to pull (retract) the slide into the coach.  I am told that two people could push it in but these coaches came with a strap, ratchet and per drawings, you connect the winch and strap between a designated place on the slide and a connector that on some is hidden under the air vent or grill (there is an optional site that may be the use point in some coaches.)  After getting the slide in, close the valves.  But the step beyond the valves that I thought some might not know about was/is the supplied strap and winch system and connection points.  I hope no one needs this, and it may be only on the 1999-2001 coaches have this pulling system.  But if you do need it, best to know in advance so I included as an FYI.  Thanks, Mike

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Reply #26 – May 10, 2012, 11:36:08 am

Fuel pump system.  I was at MOT yesterday having shades and an antenna installed and had a chance to visit with Keith Risch, Mike Rodgers and Keith Davis.  To be brief, Keith R. discussed the fuel pump/filter system on our 2001.  It is a an old original system, called a Win or something like that.  I recall an earlier thread that discussed these and how to improve.  Keith told me how it is built, the possible flaws and "fixes".  He was cautious to recommend that I spend money but I could tell he though a change would be good. 

In further conversation with service folks, they said these systems have been used for many years and generally been good.  Mike Rodgers told me of some simple things to try on the road if it fails.  I asked if the failure was possible or likely and after much discussion I am going to change my system. 

I will post that as an additional point in the listed items at the beginning of this thread that someone visiting this will see an area to consider for themselves.

Mike

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Re: Information share, 1999 - 2001 FTs

Reply #27 – May 10, 2012, 07:03:23 pm

We had the Winn 20/20 on our '02. It is the sort of "glass" fuel filter assembly on the back of the engine. Built into the Winn is a fuel assist pump. The power for that pump comes from a little black box with 2 buttons that is located at the top of the engine compartment.  One button is for "Purge" and the other is ??  Our little black box failed, and the fuel assist pump then had no power.  We started to chug and buck and cough anytime we went up a grade or the engine needed extra fuel, because it could not suck enough through the dead pump.  The easy fix (per the Cummins manual) is a new armature that bolts exactly where the old one holding the Winn presently sits, and the installation of a simple water separating fuel filter in place of the glass gizmo.  Easy, cheap fix ... expensive diagnosis when you are stuck in the middle of New Mexico with a lot of vague symptoms.  If this is what you are thinking of replacing, I would certainly agree.

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Re: Information share, 1999 - 2001 FTs

Reply #28 – May 10, 2012, 09:18:02 pm

Hi Carol.  Yes, that is it.  I forgot the description but Keith Davis and Keith Risch thought it a good idea.  Thanks of more information. Risch gave ma a very good technical account of the problems with the original, so this seems an easy decision.  Thanks for your follow up.

We have had now five groups of ForeForum folks over to the house, and I think one last gathering before the summer will be around May 28 or such.  Will miss you then as have of the others after you left Nac.

Thanks, Mike

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Re: Information share, 1999 - 2001 FTs

Reply #29 – June 17, 2012, 01:59:17 pm

Mike, thanks for the heads-up on this discussion.
I'll be interested in hearing more on the fuel filter discussion as I have yet to locate mine on this engine. Previous diesels I've worked with had the glass style fuel filter assembly so you could visually inspect for both debris and water in the fuel. (Boats, go figure. lol)
It's been many years since I've torn a diesel apart to adjust valves and lifters. I'll have to search out the right book for this motor when and "if" I decide to do this myself. Aggravation value may come into play on this project!

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Reply #30 – June 17, 2012, 04:30:12 pm

On the very back of the engine, when you open the door, you should see the vertical glass cylinder and associated electrical and filter.  When the engine is at idle, you can see the diesel flow sort of foamy through that cylinder.  But up the idle rpm a bit and there is a steady stream, no wonder it does not take long to go thru a gallon!  There is also a filter, as I recall, that you have to somehow access from under the side of the engine area, thru that rear door on the passenger side of the engine. Sorry I cannot go out to look at mine and verify that, our coach is in the shop.  But I will do for you Monday.

I think you will enjoy the photos that Steve and Michelle posted on the Forum.  If the link below does not work for you get back to me

Loss of power

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Re: Information share, 1999 - 2001 FTs

Reply #31 – June 17, 2012, 04:50:38 pm

For minibeast and others on or new to this thread.

I have submitted a document for approval to the Files Library as a means to continue to post information about this series of coaches.  Many replies and PMs came in to offer further information or corrections.  As it is awkward to continue to modify the very first list I had in this thread as we add information, I moved this to the Files/Folder as:  "1999 - 2001 Information Exchange and Sharing".  I have included attributes to many that sent information but am sure I overlooked some or forgot and do wish I had not done so.

For the moment minibeast, relative to our PMs, I will post as an attachment the list that I just put in the File/Folder for approval.  Thus in the meantime, since you liked what we had to this point, you can see it pending approval in File/Folder. 

Everyone, please send replies or PMs of ways to correct or expand the FIle/Folder document.  Mike

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