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Flooring

Just wondering if anyone has used cork flooring.  Seems like it may be a nice choice.  The flooring is going to be my next improvit project.

Steve

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No idea about  cork, but we just redid our home with Bambo and it turned out very nice, made the DW very happy. Would consider it for the coach if/when I get tired of the ceramic tile that had installed 2 years ago, sure would be lighter weight.
Dave M

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Cork reduces heat loss in rooms and even body heat loss through the feet. Cork naturally maintains a comfortable median temperature, never getting very hot or very cool. Walk barefoot on a cork floor and the warmth is immediately apparent. In tests its been shown that less heat is lost through the feet with a cork floor than with hardwood, vinyl or ceramic floors. Cork is a natural thermal insulator because of the encapsulated cells containing mostly air.

Bugs, mold, mites and even termites are repelled by cork due to a naturally occurring substance in cork called Suberin. This waxy substance also prevents cork from rotting even when completely submerged under water for long periods of time


The natural waxy substance Suberin makes cork a natural fire inhibitor. Cork is fire resistant and also does not release any toxic gases on combustion.

And those were just a few of the good thing about cork.  The really neat thing about cork is that the cork oak tree is not destroyed and then replanted but rather the bark is trimmed from the tree every 9 years, leaving the tree and the forest undamaged. Its not unusual to have a 200 year old tree still producing cork bark.
1994 U225
build #4514

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Sue and I are going to do the salon and hallway with cork... I think we're going to tile a small area of the galley alcove... but we might just use cork there too. I like the looks, the feel, and the qualities of cork. :)

Craig
1993 U225 36' Unihome GV with PACBRAKE exhaust retarder, Banks Stinger and Solar Panels.
Toad: 1999 Jeep Wrangler 2-door soft-top.

"No one has ever had to evacuate a city because the solar panels broke."

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Howdy El_Dorado, 
We replaced all our carpet in the salon and bedroom with Cork flooring in Feb. of 2011.. We love it...We did it ourself..Easy install, easy to take care of, and has great thermal and sound qualities... We fulltime and I would not use any other product..
Dave A
Dave and Nancy Abel
'00 U320 36' WTFE  Build #5669
'10 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon
Livingston, TX  SKP's Fulltiming

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Dave and Nancy can you post some pictures and details on installation? Thanks

Or people that have done the Cork installation?
Kerrybob
1995 U295
1997 F250 4dr

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Howdy Kerry, 

I got the original idea/information from flite2010 on this forum. The following is a cut/paste from a PM I sent a while back:

Yes, I did this myself.  Piece of cake!!!  In our previous coach (a sob) we removed the carpet and installed solid wood flooring that was 3/4" thick by about 2 1/4" wide. It was quite a job.  This cork is a MUCH better product for an RV.  IMHO, it makes a great floor for a RV..As I'm sure you know, cork has thermal and sound insulating qualities, that lend themselves well for RVs.  Easy maintenance, no Formaldehyde (important in a small, enclosed area), easy install. 

I did remove the pilot/co pilot chairs (you'll need help with this), but left the couch in place.  I removed all the removable panels from the couch, cut the carpet back from the edge, maybe 6 to 8 inches.  When you re-install the panels, it looks like its completely under the couch.  Didn't have to modify any of the doors. 

We have a U320 that has a wood floor in the galley area and tile in the bath.  Left all the galley floor in place and just used a real nice transition piece (trim) to cover the small gap between the new cork and the existing galley floor. The existing galley floor is 7/16" and the cork  that we used is 1/2".  It looks great.. The galley wood had a rounded radius in one corner, that I just used a skill saw to cut to  45° to make installing the trim piece easier..This came out great.  Again, just used a transition piece from the bath tile to the cork in the bedroom.    I did use pre-stained real wood trim around the entry door and edges, etc.

Here's a link to the USFloors website:  US Floors: Natural Cork, Bamboo, Linoleum, Hardwood Floors  Some very useful information on this website.
Link to the family of cork products we used:  New Dimensions: Natural Cork Flooring - Tiles | USFloors
Link to the specific product:  Narrow Plank Lago | USFloors

I bought from an online company.  I tried to give some local brick and mortars a chance, but they couldn't come close on price. 
Here's a link:  QualityFlooring4less.com: Porcelain Tile, Bamboo, Hardwood & Cork Floors, Vinyl

I was in southern Arizona at the time, and just dropped shipped to a shipping terminal in Tucson.

Good luck, and if I can be of any help, please let me know...
Dave Abel

ps.  I did have to buy and inexpensive table saw (that I later re-gifted).  When we sold our house to full time, I sold all my big tools.
Dave and Nancy Abel
'00 U320 36' WTFE  Build #5669
'10 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon
Livingston, TX  SKP's Fulltiming

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cork comes in a variety of colors, also

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Dave , what process did you use for installing the cork such as vapor barrier, floating or not,sound barrier, etc. thanks jc
JC
1999 U320

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Howdy hotonthetrail, 

The cork is the sound barrier, doesn't require a vapor barrier, and the floor floats.  That is: floor is not fastened down anywhere.  I had a lot of trouble getting ready for not nailing, but after 16 months, have not had any problems.  Its a great product.

Here's a link to a lot of technical documents: USFloors Technical Documents | USFloors

The hardest part of the project, was removing old carpet..The installers were not afraid to use their staple guns!!!

Good Luck,  Dave and Nancy A
Dave and Nancy Abel
'00 U320 36' WTFE  Build #5669
'10 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon
Livingston, TX  SKP's Fulltiming

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Thanks for all the great replies, I figured cork would be a great floor for our coach and I think I will go for it.  Pics sometime in the near future.

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 Dave A- we have for a while been thinking of new flooring in the living area and may well go for the cork too.I ripped out the wood in kitchen 3 yrs ago and did tile in dining,kitchen,bathroom. One question, did you take just the seats out or the 4 bolts holding frame to floor. I have had the seats out to re-stuff the foam but not the base plate, and wondered if it was necessary. I gather you did up in the drivers floor area and down side of steps.
John h
Coachless, now use aircraft. 2003 Ford Travelair TC280 class C. Super shape. Just for 1 yr .
1994 Ford E350 ClassC,total renovation inside and out. Now sold.
2000 U295  36' Cummins 350 c/w Banks Stinger, Resonator upgrade,Solar, LED lites.Residential fridge with slide out pantry. Build 5674. Sold
ex 92 GV 022C ored Cummins. Sold
ex 95 GV240 cat 3116. Sold
2017 Mini cooper s & 2016 land Rover LR2 HSE  LUX.
jhaygarth@aol.com    SKP #130098
treat everyone as you would like to be.

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We have seen Dave and Nancy's Cork floor and it looks great. If we can find the right color, I plan to go with Cork also. Peggy still leans toward tile but I particularly like the thermal and sound insulation aspects of Cork. Time will tell which product wins out. 
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Locust Grove, OK
1993 U300 SSE 40' (Restored at FOT 2009) Build 4323
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Howdy Kent,

Thanks for the compliment..The longer we have the flooring the more we like/appreciate it...Good Luck on finding the colors...TTYL, Dave and Nancy A

Howdy John,

We removed the chairs completely, although you could leave the base plate in place and install flooring around the base plate..The skirting around the chairs would cover everything.  It just seemed easier to remove the chairs (they are heavy/awkward) to make a clean install.  To re-install the chairs, I went under the coach, and drilled up through the mounting holes until the bit just started through the floor, then finished drilling the hole from the top. 
 
In the driver and entry steps area, we left the carpet (beige in color) in place on the vertical walls..  By leaving the carpet in place, it made the color transitions from the dash area to the new cork flooring look good..
Good Luck with everything,

Dave and Nancy A
Dave and Nancy Abel
'00 U320 36' WTFE  Build #5669
'10 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon
Livingston, TX  SKP's Fulltiming

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Dave, how many square feet did you calculate and was the cork lite or dark in color. thanks jc
JC
1999 U320

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Howdy hotonthetrail,

On the color I would call it light with dark highlights (can't believe I just used that phrase!!). here's link to the product: Narrow Plank Lago | USFloors
Still trying to find some of the pics that we took during installation.  I kept a couple of leftover pieces, that are appox 8" x 12", that I use to show folks how it locks into place.  I would be glad to ship one in the mail, so you could look it over..Really, this would be no problem.

I looked up my old invoices, and I bought 158 sq ft.  Since it comes 14.4 sq ft to the box, I had 11 boxes.  I did overbuy, my usual practice, and I had one complete box left over, that I donated. BTW, it looks like I paid $5.19 per sq ft. 

Good Luck, Dave and Nancy A
Dave and Nancy Abel
'00 U320 36' WTFE  Build #5669
'10 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon
Livingston, TX  SKP's Fulltiming

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Thanks Dave I think I am ready to proceed with this project after 1&1/2 years of planning, needed a little push but will wear a parachute just in case. jc
JC
1999 U320

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question, while you had the carpet out by the brake and foot pedal did you see any removable panel (in the floor) to be able to get to air lines on foot brake valve. I have a few air leaks on it and wondered if I can access it from top?
Yours is same year as mine
John H
Coachless, now use aircraft. 2003 Ford Travelair TC280 class C. Super shape. Just for 1 yr .
1994 Ford E350 ClassC,total renovation inside and out. Now sold.
2000 U295  36' Cummins 350 c/w Banks Stinger, Resonator upgrade,Solar, LED lites.Residential fridge with slide out pantry. Build 5674. Sold
ex 92 GV 022C ored Cummins. Sold
ex 95 GV240 cat 3116. Sold
2017 Mini cooper s & 2016 land Rover LR2 HSE  LUX.
jhaygarth@aol.com    SKP #130098
treat everyone as you would like to be.

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Howdy John,
    I don't remember a removeable floor panel in the driver area.  I'm sure I would have noticed this...On the advice of Mike Rogers at MOT I left brake pedal in place and carefully cut-out (took a while and some scrap pieces for this) for the brake pedal mounting...It really came out great..
Good Luck on finding your air leaks,  Dave and Nancy A
Dave and Nancy Abel
'00 U320 36' WTFE  Build #5669
'10 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon
Livingston, TX  SKP's Fulltiming

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Dave, any chance of posting pictures of your flooring? I am thinking about installing throughout ours. I would like to see the entry, carpet on the kick areas and the transition to the wood. I would like to see the area around the toilet step area as well if any one has done this area?
1999 U320
Mount Dora Fl

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Howdy Philtravel,
Step pics:

Ignore the dates on the pics, need to re-set date on camera:
Dave and Nancy Abel
'00 U320 36' WTFE  Build #5669
'10 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon
Livingston, TX  SKP's Fulltiming

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Salon area:
Dave and Nancy Abel
'00 U320 36' WTFE  Build #5669
'10 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon
Livingston, TX  SKP's Fulltiming

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Bath Area:
Dave and Nancy Abel
'00 U320 36' WTFE  Build #5669
'10 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon
Livingston, TX  SKP's Fulltiming

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Not sure if yours is the same, but I posted a picture of the toilet pedestal in another thread awhile back... Willie Wilsons U320 renovations
Don
Dave, any chance of posting pictures of your flooring? I am thinking about installing throughout ours. I would like to see the entry, carpet on the kick areas and the transition to the wood. I would like to see the area around the toilet step area as well if any one has done this area?
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Don & Tys
1999 U270 3602 WTFE #5402
Xtreme Stage 1 w/Headlight, Step Conversion, etc.
2009 Honda Fit Sport with Navi
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Dave; Neat job you did; very craftsman-like fur-shur! Really like the step-storage. Guess I missed that earlier; what was involved?
Chad & Judy
'98 U320 - Build #5315
Motorcade 16317
Wickenburg, AZ