Re: Fiberglass radiator fan explosion! Reply #20 – October 27, 2012, 11:18:50 pm Scott, how can one tell if the fan is fiberglass? I currently have my fan out, as I am trying to replace the hydraulic fan motor (a big ordeal that I will share when it is all resolved). It is somewhat transluscent, pale yellowish, but I can not see any fibrous strands in it. It is a homogenous texture. Can you take a picture of your fan? I'd hate to re-assemble this whole thing, just to have the blades disintegrate in the near future. Since my coach is a '92, but manufactured in Nov. of '91, I suspect that we might have the same fan, though with entirely different engines, I hope not. Did FOT quote you the price of the replacement fan blade? I'm not sure a 28" fan would even fit in the existing shroud in front of the radiator for my Cummins 8.3.A Foretravel owner and formerly active member of the old Yahoo Foretravel owner's website is John Lang; his lives in Crossville and is a fine gentleman. Private Mail me for his phone number. He may be able to direct you to some mechanical assistance. Quote Selected
Re: Fiberglass radiator fan explosion! Reply #21 – October 27, 2012, 11:30:44 pm Don,I had my original fiberglass fan replaced in 2001 and I remember it being black and the glass strands very evident on the surface and especially on edges where the fibers would fray a little and turn a white color. Your fan sounds like it's plastic so I don't think you have to worry. I suppose you could call James Triana and verify. Quote Selected
Re: Fiberglass radiator fan explosion! Reply #22 – October 27, 2012, 11:37:14 pm Thank you SO much for the feedback! I am relieved to learn that my fan blade is probably plastic. No fibrous nature at all. Quote Selected
Re: Fiberglass radiator fan explosion! Reply #23 – October 28, 2012, 05:17:49 pm My fiberglass fan blade is white, and you can easily see the strands of glass fibers in it. The replacement fan is probably made of black ABS plastic according to what Foretravel told me, and it's $243.75 at Foretravel, but probably cheaper if I order it locally through NAPA I predict.I have a new problem now, it's gonna be 29 degrees here tonight and I don't know what I have to do to keep my motor home from freezing, especially the water tanks. Are they insulated? I don't have any electricity here unless I run the diesel generator all night. Is there electric heat tape in the tanks? I'm practically out of LP gas and the furnaces are full of wasp nests because they've never been used. The coach was in Florida for the past 14 years. Will my tanks freeze tonight? It's supposed to get down to 28 degrees again here on Tuesday night... Should I post this as a new question instead of adding it onto the bottom of this thread? Quote Selected
Re: Fiberglass radiator fan explosion! Reply #24 – October 28, 2012, 05:33:16 pm Tanks wont freeze with that temp over several hours (like 4-6) Quote Selected
Re: Fiberglass radiator fan explosion! Reply #25 – October 28, 2012, 05:52:36 pm What about the pump compartment, will it freeze in there?... I was having a stoopid idea that maybe I could leave the tank fill valve under the bathroom sink cracked open just slightly with the pump on so it would start every once in a while and the water would stay moving just a little... of course that will run down the batteries and I'll have to start the generator more often to charge them, but I've got a full tank of diesel. Quote Selected
Re: Fiberglass radiator fan explosion! Reply #26 – October 28, 2012, 06:16:24 pm If your water tanks have a lot of water in them, I would not expect you to have any freezing problems if low temperatures are above 28F and average temperatures in a 24 period are well above freezing. With the bay doors closed, the water tanks will provide enough heat to keep the temperatures in the bays above freezing.Check the temperatures of the bays occasionally with a thermometer to ease your mind. An infrared gun type thermometer will give you instant readings. If average temperatures drop too much for comfort before you get to a safer circumstance, put a work light (mechanics' "drop light") in a couple of the bays overnight.If the furnaces are full of dauber nests, you will probably need to pull them out and apart to clean them. We had a furnace burner replaced at FOT last November because daubers had clogged it so badly that it had warped and would no longer support a flame. We now keep "dauber screens" on the furnaces and water heater vents. Quote Selected
Re: Fiberglass radiator fan explosion! Reply #27 – October 28, 2012, 06:18:14 pm Your furnace (if it's like our '93 U300) has a duct than sends warm air directly into the pump compartment and the pump. 28 degrees won't come close to freezing the tanks. We were in the mid-teens in Yellowstone and did nothing other than operating the furnace. Your insurance may pay to send a propane truck (and a fuel truck) to your location and fill your tank (or you could just pay the propane company). If you have the policy with you, check to see what is covered for misc. expenses after a breakdown. Pierce Quote Selected
Re: Fiberglass radiator fan explosion! Reply #28 – October 28, 2012, 06:31:57 pm I have one of those tiny tent sized candle lanterns here that supposedly burns for 9 hours on a candle providing a lot of heat. Should I light that and put it in the pump compartment tonight? I'm told those little candles are available at Wal-Mart but I didn't check when I was there. I don't have any replacement candles but I'll have to get at least one more before Tuesday night... Would leaving the tank fill valve under the bathroom sink cracked open slightly keep the pump compartment from freezing or is that a ridiculous idea? Quote Selected
Re: Fiberglass radiator fan explosion! Reply #29 – October 28, 2012, 07:34:07 pm As Dave said, a couple of hours just below freezing will do no harm to the tanks.You might check your rear propane heater-- quite likely it has a duct into the wet bay. So if you run that furnace, it will keep you AND the tanks warm.Brett Quote Selected
Re: Fiberglass radiator fan explosion! Reply #30 – October 29, 2012, 11:25:56 am Quote from: RRadio – October 27, 2012, 11:26:08 amThe fiberglass fan on my 1991 U300 with 6V92TA engine and less than 80,000 miles on it lost a blade while cruising on interstate 40 at a steady 1500 rpm. The blade hit the front core of the radiator and a small hose that I havent yet identified. The engine was vibrating badly and I pulled over thinking I had a flat tire. Road service sent out Tennessee Towing and they took me to J&K Truck Repair in Crossville TN who refused to do the repair even if I showed him the cash beforehand. He had at least one garage bay empty all day and as many as three mechanics mopping the floor at once. He wouldnt even allow me to stay in his parking lot where the tow truck left me. He called Reed Truck repair and they sent a mechanic to look at it, but they also refused to fix it. They called everyone in town but didnt find anyone. I walked across the street to the BP truck stop and asked if I could park in their truck parking area but they wouldnt allow it. I then walked over to Cumberland Worship Center and asked if I could park in the church parking lot and they said I could. I found the broken blade and removed all of it, putting all the pieces together to be sure none of it was still in there. I removed the water sensor from the top of the radiator and put it in a bucket of water on the back bumper so the computer would allow the engine to run. I started the generator and let the air compressor pump up the air brakes and suspension. I then started the engine and immediately limped away slowly to the church parking lot without letting the engine warm up. Now Im in the process of removing the radiator myself in the church parking lot 30 feet away from J&K Truck Repair. I worked on it until it got dark last night and then walked over to a pizza joint cuz I was starving. The lady who owns the place asked me whats wrong so I told her the story. Her son in law owns a trucking company in town and she said shed call him. Im telling everyone about J&K Truck Repair, Reed Truck Repair, and the BP truck stop refusing to help me at all. Tennessee Towing was very helpful however, as was the church. Without them I dont know what Id do. Ive never felt so alone before. What a cold hearted little town to be stranded in. I called Foretravel and got some valuable advice. They told me to remove the radiator from the bottom of the coach because there are brackets that wont fit through the rear door. I see the brackets that theyre talking about but I really think it will fit through the rear door. Have any of you removed the radiator through the rear door successfully?... Those of you with a fiberglass fan should get rid of it before it explodes. According to Foretravel it has been replaced by Flex-O-Lite part number 8681 and its now a plastic 28 diameter fan blade which hopefully is stronger? The radiator is unavailable and VERY expensive. Im told Ill have to get a local radiator shop to order a new core and solder it in which will take a week or more and cost a thousand dollars... (sigh)... thought you guys would wanna know this stuff.ScottScottJohn Lang here in Crossville. Bummer! Hate to hear of problems like this. Your experience with Crossville hospitality is not typical, but it is a fact that the 3 truck service centers around hear really don't like to do anything on or related to MH's. This really is strange considering there are AT LEAST 250 MH owners in a radias of 20 miles. But that doesn't help you right now.One shop in town used to do rad work - Chans Collision - phnoe 931-484-3519. I would call and ask them.Another alternative is Cookeville Radiator in Cookeville; about 30 miles east on Interstate 40. Phone 931.526.2013For future use: General engine/chassis work: Walker Diesel Service in Cookeville. Phone 931.528.8555. Many of us here in Crossville have our service done there. Very dependable and very reasonable cost. For non-chassis work (most anything on the house): Creston RV Service, Bill Dodson. He is just outside of Crossville. Phone 931.528.8555.I don't have a number for you, but I will head out now and see if I can find you.Good luck,John Lang Quote Selected
Re: Fiberglass radiator fan explosion! Reply #31 – October 29, 2012, 12:53:13 pm Thanks so much for giving me a tour of Crossville and taking me to the radiator shop John. I really appreciate you... ...Hopefully I'll get some help lifting the radiator out of the coach soon and take it over to the shop. Quote Selected
Re: Fiberglass radiator fan explosion! Reply #32 – October 29, 2012, 01:24:49 pm John,It was very nice of you to seek out Scott and help him out. You set a fine example for others to follow. Thanks for helping out a fellow Foretraveler.I have logged in the noted Crossville shops as "not RV friendly" and the noted Cookeville shops as "RV friendly" just in case I am in the area and need service. I always appreciate that info.Karma boost to you.Rick Quote Selected
Re: Fiberglass radiator fan explosion! Reply #33 – October 29, 2012, 01:53:20 pm I too think that was very"foreforumily" of you to go over to help in any way possible. Now to find some lifting help for Scott. wish I was close to help.John H Quote Selected
Re: Fiberglass radiator fan explosion! Reply #34 – October 29, 2012, 08:14:10 pm Rick, please include Tennessee Towing in Crossville as being motor home friendly. He tows a lot of motor homes and is very familiar with them. He's a really nice guy and he actually lives in a motor home about 30' behind me here... When he was underneath my Foretravel he was admiring the suspension and all the engineering and design and said he'd never seen anything as advanced before. He said it was state of the art... and it's 20+ years old!... He said it must ride way better than other motor homes. The mechanics that looked at the 6V92TA engine were admiring it and said it was state of the art... I got a lot of compliments but not a lot of help.Also, whenever you're in the Crossville area and you want to visit a nice church that helps stranded motor home owners, not just me but others before me, visit Cumberland Worship Center. They broadcast their church services on the internet worldwide too.Thanks again to John and Helen for bringing me some blankets just now and offering to let me use their laundry and shower in their house if I need it. They've been so nice to me... (smile)Today I sold a deer rifle that I don't need and I've now got half the cash I supposedly need for the radiator shop. I have a gold wedding band I no longer need that I'll sell too. I have another paycheck coming in about a week and a half and I'm pretty sure I'll still be here then. The check combined with the cash I have now should be enough to resolve this situation... From now on I'll be traveling with more cash and more tools! (laugh) Quote Selected
Re: Fiberglass radiator fan explosion! Reply #35 – October 29, 2012, 08:48:44 pm Quote from: RRadio – October 29, 2012, 08:14:10 pmRick, please include Tennessee Towing in Crossville as being motor home friendly. He tows a lot of motor homes and is very familiar with them. He's a really nice guy and he actually lives in a motor home about 30' behind me here... When he was underneath my Foretravel he was admiring the suspension and all the engineering and design and said he'd never seen anything as advanced before. He said it was state of the art... and it's 20+ years old!... He said it must ride way better than other motor homes. The mechanics that looked at the 6V92TA engine were admiring it and said it was state of the art... I got a lot of compliments but not a lot of help.Also, whenever you're in the Crossville area and you want to visit a nice church that helps stranded motor home owners, not just me but others before me, visit Cumberland Worship Center. They broadcast their church services on the internet worldwide too.Scott, Yes, I caught the fact that Tennessee Towing was one of the good guys along with the church. I generally copy the complete post so that I can grasp the whole situation and then add my own comments in RED so that I can capture my thoughts at the time.Hope all goes well from here on out.good luck,Rick Quote Selected
Re: Fiberglass radiator fan explosion! Reply #36 – October 31, 2012, 11:01:35 am I just got a phone call from a gentleman at the church where I'm stranded and he's sending a couple of guys over today to help me lift the radiator out of the the coach, and I think they're bringing a pickup truck to take the radiator to the shop, which John Lang already took me to and they said they'd re-core the radiator for me... so I'm on my way to a repair here... just thought an update might be good. Quote Selected
Re: Fiberglass radiator fan explosion! Reply #37 – October 31, 2012, 11:09:50 am Outstanding! Quote Selected
Re: Fiberglass radiator fan explosion! Reply #38 – October 31, 2012, 11:24:28 am Way cool! Fortunately you landed among a people who chose to look your plight as an opportunity to help rather than an eyesore.Thanks for the update. Quote Selected
Re: Fiberglass radiator fan explosion! Reply #39 – October 31, 2012, 11:50:34 pm Well the guys didn't show up to help me lift the radiator today but I predict someone will soon. Now I'm helping the church get their internet streaming broadcast onto my friend's nationwide TV network and onto iTunes as a podcast worldwide... so they want me to stay! (laugh)... The pastor told me to plug into their light pole in the parking lot so I won't have to run my diesel generator to charge the batteries... which brings me to another question... do I have to turn down the amperage on the charger so I can plug into a 20A 120V AC outlet without overloading their circuit breaker? Quote Selected