Installed Aero resonator

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Re: Installed Aero resonator

Reply #50 – April 01, 2013, 08:26:33 pm

Quote from: MemoryRoads – April 01, 2013, 06:30:25 pm

Barry, thanks.
From your photo, it looks like you got the turbo blanket and the nearby exhaust elbow blankets.. did you also go for the exhaust manifold blanket?

I can understand the turbo resonator mod, the resonator wrapping to keep heat away from A.C. components and also understand 'diminishing returns' on investments! Don't want to throw $ at things not needed or really un-important and certainly don't want to add anything that might cause a problem.

I drive very conservatively/not into the peddle, so anticipate no downgrade of MPG from the resonator upgrade( or muffler change out). Efficiency of, and longevity of systems are projects I think worth doing though. Again, thanks.

I just received my Thermal Exhaust Wrap from Summit Racing and will be covering the resonator with it since it is directly under the AC components.

Adding the resonator and taking out the muffler gave me access to my batteries and that was worth the price of admission. Any other benefit I get is a bonus.

I haven't changed my driving pattern which is conservative the last few years, I realized there is no need to rush anymore. I am retired and take all the time I want. A lesson from Barry and Cindy

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Reply #51 – April 02, 2013, 06:31:28 pm

Oh boy, does it ever get just 'simple'? I guess not.

Barry. Your coach is a 40' tag/03 and John's is a 36' /00. Both are different from mine, so for clarity's sake, I'm going to press forward on this with info or questions.

Photos will be somehow included as I go along here.

I began removing the few screws /front and rear/ of the side panel covering the Muffler on my 2001-40' (non tag axle FT). Premature possibly as I kept looking up, while on my back under the coach and it looked like I would have to remove some 1/8" or 3/16# metal from above that had 9/16" bolts going up into the floor area. I believe I was mistaken after further analysis. It appears that the aft end of this panel goes under the rear cap by about 3-4 inches, so the panel will have to be slid forward to be removed.

( I can remove the door just forward of this panel to accomodate my thougths, but...)

the problem I see that "appears" different, (yours/mine/models) is that to get the Upper Portion of this panel loose, I will have to remove the Outside, flexible plastic cover that resides within the aluminum trim. To do this on a gel coated coach would be no problem but to do this on a 'Painted' coach will destroy the paint's color and clearcoat on that trim plastic.

So, if this piece of plastic, has to be removed to be able to remove the panel(which will require gold paint etc.and not just a cheapo $5 roll of plastic, then it is probably wiser to either take more Alleve for my back and just lay underneath the coach to do this job, pr just pay the fiddler and have a shop do this job. 'unpleasant' to be fealing- not up to a task, but I am learning how to continue to smile.

I'd like to call it wisdom but too many folks around me walk away with funny looks on their faces. Sometimes so do I, but I'm still laughing.

OK, so was up? I do not have batteries under this side, so I cannot see a reason 'Other Than' ease of doing the resonator job. If that is the only real reason why, on a 2001/40' Non-Tag Axle, to remove this panel, then I'm not going to.

"A" forward
"B" Aft
"C" Upper
"dotted tape- "Area of concern".

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Reply #52 – April 02, 2013, 08:03:56 pm

memory roads, if you have a FT, change your signature block to please reflect what you have!!!!! thanks and congratulations!

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Reply #53 – April 02, 2013, 08:33:31 pm

Memory Roads, I have the same coach/paint job, but 36'. There is no way you can remove that panel without damaging the paint. I too would like to install a resonator but, if I do it I will be on my back so most likely if I ever get a resonator it will be installed by other/s. So write the check and grin a bare it.

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Reply #54 – April 02, 2013, 09:49:35 pm

tim, what's up? you sound harsh/offended! Please do not be.

I will not change the photo on my blogs Homepage as it is a representation of what I 'also own' (yes, no 'if', I do own my foretravel.)

No one, or very few go to the site to visit my Foretravel but many do to visit the 'how to sections' on the Class C ....that i also have the pleasure of owning.

A few years ago, I once again began enjoying land travel but with a unit bought on Ebay I had to, for family reasons. I needed a place to stay when my wife and I flew in to visit my father in his last years, while I also 'thought' I'd need a nurse on night shift for him/depriving us of a room to sleep in. So I bought the Class C on Ebay, getting a deal from a liar, but i fixed it up. i took photos etc. to document the project which I had been thru before, rebuilding a Class C for my father 20 years before.

My blog, is basically there for family and friends that wanted to follow our travels, but I found thousands of folks had the same problems of water leaks on these older Class C's so set up the Index to make it easy for them to follow what "I" did, just in case they felt they could fix theirs.

Now, on Sunday, this blog, with the photo of the Class C, that maybe you or another would like me to remove, had 419 page loads.. yes, more than normal, (normal is 1500/mo. +/-) but memoryroads ranks high on google because the site has been known for years, for decent info on how to rebuild these older coaches. the Home page photo, will remain.

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Reply #55 – April 02, 2013, 10:40:01 pm

No problem or offense, just note for all our reference, when you talk about "your" foretravel we dont see what it is in your signature block, lots of fun sailboats, etc mentioned, just want a reminder what FT you have, since I cant remember what everyone is driving. Hleps when you say "did this on my coach" or has anyone ever had this happen"

2000 4010 U-320
Tim

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Reply #56 – April 02, 2013, 10:45:42 pm

Quote from: Steve – April 02, 2013, 10:03:30 pm

He was simply asking for you to add your coach information in to your signature on the forum.

This helps the other members quickly see what year/etc coach you have so they can provide the best information they can when answering questions.

Although that information is sometimes also provided under the users profile, many members do everything by email so they don't get to see that, but what they do see is the signature line.

Well said. I know Memory Roads searched for a Foretravel and found one. However, I don't remember what it is. I also like to see a signature line with some information about coach and home base.

I had no idea all that stuff that shows up in the Memory Roads signature block included links to other sites until I saw the post in the web view of the forum. The links don't show up in the email messages.

Re: Installed Aero resonator

Reply #57 – April 02, 2013, 10:48:43 pm

Ya gotta get your kicks where ever you can I guess, If Google gives you the kicks, yippiiee dooo

Does nothing for me

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Reply #58 – April 02, 2013, 10:58:36 pm

M Roads, I have a full body paint job and my trim has been off a few times on both sides and you cannot see the line when it is replaced. It is easy to caulk and does not change the look of paint. DO IT. the rear part is held to back cap by another piece of strip aluminum and a lot of silicone between panels so it does need a bit of prying apart. The under strip (vertical) has to go back to give join some integrity. There may be some shorter screws along the upper trim part. Just make sure they go back in the right holes. I put pieces of tape on the upper body were they come from so I know. The trim comes off then the screws down sides A & B and then the few screws holding the panel on (which you do not see till taking strip off. Simple job and SO much easier than lying on your back. Good time to check a bunch of things out like the A?C drier etc.
JohnH

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Reply #59 – April 03, 2013, 07:27:41 am

I know on my tag axle the batteries were in a different place on my 01 than Dave M's. I had mine installed at Cummins and they did not take the side panel off but lifted the coach. The muffler is pretty big and getting that out might have been an issue with the panel in place.

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Reply #60 – April 03, 2013, 08:22:01 pm

Steve/Tim, 'Peace'. I read: "if you...and then.....change your signature". Came across harsh to me. Forgive me but I jumped out of my seat. I did read it a half dozen times and felt a shot across my bow for reasons unkown to me.

Steve: I thought I answered with proper courtesy but firm enough only to give a fair response.

For anyone interested: I have addeda few photos to my 'index' this evening under "Foretravel"... I have not done much on my coach, it's basically an original 01-U320 with headlight upgrade for safety and TV mod for pleasure.

To also satisfy requests, I hope I added a top line to my signature that offers info on what Coach I own.

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Reply #61 – April 03, 2013, 08:24:49 pm

Bingo, Perfect

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Reply #62 – April 03, 2013, 08:37:55 pm

Well Dave, maybe not yet...still questions and this is a forum to resolve them.

John, thanks for your response but I'm still not getting something here. 'My' upper trim /soft/ originally and supposedly removable 1" plastic half round insert into the Horizontal aluminum extrusion just above the panel covering the muffler, had been Originally painted a goldish green paint at the factory and clear coated. Mine is goldish and Johns seems to be 'white'.

To remove this plastic cover(that covers the screws holding the molding on) will destroy the paint on it. John, you have what looks like a white paint job there in this region. Is that why your ok with this removal? That material on 'my' coach has been painted 12 years ago in gold.. That said, I know, if i attempt to bend it for removal, i will cause damage to it.

What am I not seeing ? thanks for your thoughts. ron

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Reply #63 – April 03, 2013, 09:02:14 pm

Memory,

Heck no, last thing I try to do is shoot across anybody's bow, too many helpful nice freindly people here, sorry if I screwed up in some way and it felt that way. Just wanted to know what FT you had, since I like a lot of your input.

Tim

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Reply #64 – April 03, 2013, 09:18:19 pm

Memory,

BTW, I chartered at least twice with CSY YEARS ago......

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Reply #65 – April 03, 2013, 09:36:57 pm

Quote from: MemoryRoads – April 03, 2013, 08:22:01 pm

To also satisfy requests, I hope I added a top line to my signature that offers info on what Coach I own.

Thanks. That helps us know what "my coach" means when the phrase shows up in your posts.

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Reply #66 – April 04, 2013, 08:32:42 pm

Tim, All is good with me, if it's good with you! Consider it my mistake. Also, if you'd like to own probably the best CSY on earth, we should talk!

JD, I was trying to get a photo of the coach down to the 125 x 125 pixel size to add to the signature, but Picasa can only get it down to 320 x something. Well, it's just a stock 2001/ with gold and green paint on the bottom and white gel coat on upper sections; nothing custom.

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Reply #67 – April 04, 2013, 11:24:01 pm

I do have some goldish strips thru it but that would not stop me. Don't make too much of a bit of paint, it WILL bend and be ok if you treat it right, but up to you
John H

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Reply #68 – May 09, 2013, 09:12:45 am

Quote from: Barry Beam – April 01, 2013, 08:26:33 pm

I just received my Thermal Exhaust Wrap from Summit Racing and will be covering the resonator with it since it is directly under the AC components.

Finally got around to installing the Exhaust Thermal Wrap yesterday that I bought from Summit Racing. I wrapped it all the way past the resonator to the exhaust tip. Put a couple of adjustable band clamps on each end. Easy install but a little tricky doing the rounded edges of the resonator. As I was unraveling the wrap it looks like they ran out the roll because it was in two pieces. I was going to send it back but the second piece was short enough and not needed.
I haven't taken the coach out yet to see if it makes any difference on the heat in the engine compartment.

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Reply #69 – May 09, 2013, 10:52:15 am

Barry I ordered a 5050xl today and in the future maybe you would refer and maybe help the install to go correctly.

I am in Southern California so Ontario is no problem. I might let you copy my old Foretravel info for your records.

With no comparison its hard to tell but I feel my 450 is restricted if you rev it out. Maybe normal but up steep grades its around five mph faster revved up in a lower gear than torquing up the same grade in a higher gear. I would think that would be more of a difference than that.

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Reply #70 – May 09, 2013, 06:33:14 pm

You will find it is a big difference if you are in tune with your coach. You will also get better mileage too. Now when we all go to Nac they no loner say, is that a resonator. There are a lot of us there now.

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Reply #71 – May 09, 2013, 11:02:13 pm

Quote from: John S – May 09, 2013, 06:33:14 pm

You will find it is a big difference if you are in tune with your coach. You will also get better mileage too. Now when we all go to Nac they no loner say, is that a resonator. There are a lot of us there now.

You have no idea how much I dragged Foretravel kicking and screaming into the nice coach era.

There coaches did not come with levelers and awnings and cameras and power seats and mirrors. Why? Cm told me the customers asked him to throw that in for free. So don't put it on.

I added everything at my end. And doubled the sales and added even more in profits.

Then they had the money for the R&D to build the unihome. Cm shook my hand and thanked me.

It was fun days as I said before. Versus old ftx's we got grand villas then unihomes.

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Reply #72 – March 01, 2014, 12:58:42 am

Finally got around to the Aero Resonator & installed it today.

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Reply #73 – March 01, 2014, 01:23:13 am

LOVE the install and the heat tape. Where did you get the tape? How do you like the sound? Did you drive it after the install. After about 3 accelerations you don't notice the performance increase, it just becomes "the new normal".
COgrats!

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Reply #74 – March 01, 2014, 02:14:15 pm

Al nice job. Only thing I see is that as you have a solid pipe all the way thru (looks like that) do you think the last brkt by Resonator to frame should have been a rubber one to allow a bit of flex??
Just my 2 cents and maybe I missed something.
By the way did you find the info on VDO Gauage you bought as I may end up going that way if this service shop gets too expensive. I checked that site out and looks good. Thx
JohnH

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