Roof coating from FOT

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Roof coating from FOT

April 24, 2013, 08:57:26 am

We understand that FOT can put a coating on your roof that prevents any white oxidation from running down the sides of your coach. We were thinking of having this done the next time we were at FOT for service. We wonder if anyone has had this done, and what it cost them.

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Reply #1 – April 24, 2013, 09:05:03 am

I had the roof coating applied at Xtreme last year. The cost then was just over $1,400.

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Reply #2 – April 24, 2013, 09:33:12 am

FOT and Xtreme provide this , and its well worth the money IMO ...

It stops the white streaks down the side, makes cleaning the roof a quick process plus gives some added grip under foot when you are on the roof. When we were at the most recent Grandvention FOT showed a new product that they were starting to use for this purpose and it looked quite good. Cost tends to be in the $1500 range, either place will gladly take your money.

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Reply #3 – April 24, 2013, 10:53:10 am

I have looked at both processes. FT quoted me $1600....their coating look superior and had a texture to it like a truck bedliner. Xtreme quoted me $1200...they have a 2 coat process which uses some fiberglass chips....I think theirs is smoother so maybe slippery. Both coats protect and eliminate streaking down the side of your coach. I think the process is worth it and will probably have it done next year......spent my "max" for my coach this year already!

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Reply #4 – April 24, 2013, 10:58:02 am

I have Xtreme painted roof- not slippery, but didn't look at FOT process. Happy with mine, interested if anyone on FoFum has done FOT version

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Reply #5 – April 24, 2013, 11:06:42 am

Tim, what was your cost.....do you think it will clean easier than FOT textured finish? I heard FOT's is harder to clean.

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Reply #6 – April 24, 2013, 11:23:52 am

We have the FOT coating and I don't find it difficult to clean. Just hose it off. If there is some stubborn dirt, use a soft brush. I would have the FOT coating again in a heart beat! Money well spent!

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Reply #7 – April 24, 2013, 11:24:46 am

Peter, Tim, Steve any idea what this product is made up of please??
I gather it is not a rubber compound like an elastomeric, but hard as in paint but with an added "grip"
John H

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Reply #8 – April 24, 2013, 11:30:59 am

Mine is easy to clean, fixed some cracks too, $1300

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Reply #9 – April 24, 2013, 11:43:14 am

Just hung up with James Stallings...(What a great guy) He has been using a single stage urethane with crushed glass coating, and that is what I and Tim have. He also mentioned that there is also a shark grip coating that has the added benefit of a small R value improvement.

James also asked me to mention that their website is under reconstruction and that it will be up and running in a couple of weeks. So no updates on coach progress for a couple weeks more.

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Reply #10 – April 24, 2013, 11:47:23 am

Fiberglass RV Roof Coating | Dicor Products | Official Website

I guess this is something like it as it has fibreglass particles in it
John H

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Reply #11 – April 24, 2013, 11:48:41 am

No idea, James at Xtreme the person to ask

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Reply #12 – April 24, 2013, 01:15:01 pm

I talked to both FOT and Xtreme in 2011 about their roof paint. The price was the same. I chose Xtreme.

FOT indicated that they wanted to use an elastomeric coating similar to that used on trailers. Their guy claimed that it would bridge cracks up to 1/16" so it could be applied with less prep. I don't want to rely on an elasotmeric urethane for water proofing. That's why Foretravel originally chose a fiberglass roof and not a rubber roof.

Xtreme repaired all cracks and even discovered a delamination that was repaired, extra cost, before applying the coating. The urethane they use has held the non-skid very well and I have had none of that nasty stuff running down over the edge. The price was about $1300 in 2011 plus $300 for the delamination repair.

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Reply #13 – April 24, 2013, 03:19:39 pm

Very interesting discussion. I had some roof cracks about three years ago and investigated these issues, thoroughly. I got quotes from FOT, Parliament, TN RV, Stallings, and a local truck body shop that I knew did first class work. All except FOT were using a urethane paint with glass beads for non-skid and all prices were the same except for the price of the labor, every where from $125/hr to $ 85/hr. Skip to punch line, had to have FOT redo it a year later. Now it's fine.

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Reply #14 – April 24, 2013, 03:25:02 pm

I do not see anything about urethane as in elastomeric. It said 100% Urethane resin, so Kent what do you think that is?? I would not put a rubber roof compound on but do know it is good stuff. I rather like the hard sheen finish as it stays cleaner longer and should be easy to clean up.
John H

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Reply #15 – April 24, 2013, 04:19:47 pm

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Peter, Tim, Steve any idea what this product is made up of please??

No idea, they did mention what it was but it has slipped my mind (since I already had a painted roof) .... I'd just call FOT and ask them what they are using instead of speculating.

The things I do remember about the product is that it had some thickness to it, and had an orange skin type texture if that helps, not bed liner like, maybe more like the chip guard you sometimes see on lower body panels. I know several folks had it applied and are very happy with it.

The paint I have on the roof today is what Xtreme used a 3 years ago ... I guess thats the "single stage urethane with crushed glass coating" .. or the non marketing term is bright white urethane paint with sand thrown in

... have had it on of several years and has worked great.

When the time comes to have the roof redone (if ever), I'll explore what is being offered and make my choice based on the product offerings / facts / etc available at that time.

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Reply #16 – April 24, 2013, 04:20:29 pm

I had thought that Bus Kote was the roof paint of choice. http://www.nationwidecoatings.com/PDF-Work/Datasheets/Nationwide/7740%20Datasheet%20-%20MSDS.pdf

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Reply #17 – April 24, 2013, 05:54:08 pm

this is just an elastomeric rubber roof coating. I would not like it on mine
John H

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Reply #18 – April 24, 2013, 06:19:56 pm

There are a number of possibilities. I do not recall what FOT said they were using but because I didn't agree with their "no need to repair the small cracks" so I walked away. It could be single component, TDI urethane such as that used in Rhino Linings, it could be acrylic, EPDM, TPO or even Hypolon but none are as durable as a good automotive grade urethane. Some will even allow the growth of mold and mildew. I don't know for sure that the FOT product is not acceptable because overall I have a high regard for the products Foretravel uses, but I do know the properties of a coating do not eliminate the need to address any substrate cracks properly before application.

I know others have called the product used by Xtreme single stage but I'm pretty sure it is a two component MDI or HDI urethane, similar in quality to that used on the body but with a bit more elongation capabilities, non-chalking and almost total UV resistance.

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Reply #19 – April 24, 2013, 06:25:38 pm

According to James Stallings it is a single stage product.

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Reply #20 – April 24, 2013, 06:38:46 pm

Peter, I could be wrong. It happened once before in 1993.

The term single stage was not used in the industry when I retired 5 years ago. I'm sure things could have changed. According to Google, single stage means no clear cote. If that is what James meant then that is certainly correct. There is no clear cote on my roof and no need for one. It could still be a two component product usually indicating a superior formula.

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Reply #21 – April 24, 2013, 06:46:59 pm

Our coach is at Xtreme now and they are going to do our roof along with other work. Looking forward to no more black streaks!

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Reply #22 – April 24, 2013, 10:15:45 pm

Are A/C units, skylights, Sat domes, etc removed for this coating? Maybe this is where some of the cost is...

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Reply #23 – April 24, 2013, 10:45:08 pm

We had ours done at FOT 2 years ago. We had significant cracks they repaired before applying roof coating, which we were told was a textured urethane paint. It is textured, as Steve said "orange peal", is high gloss, and is easy to clean with a soft brush.
I did have a crack reappear, which they fixed and re-coated this year at no charge.
I talked to Extreme and FOT before having this done and as I remember, neither remove all roof items (meaning they coat around them). However, Extreme does lift all cables and any tubings and hold them above the roof, so their coating goes under those and those items are reattached after the coating is dried. FOT does not do this; they did not move anything on the roof.
Also, because of the cracks on our roof, James at Extreme would not do the job because he did not have time in his schedule. He does need the roof surface to be danged near perfect before he can apply his urethane coating. He does two coats and adds the anti-skid into the 2nd coat. My impression was that the paint would look as good as what they put on the rest of the coach except for the anti-skid.
FOT's textured coating probably does cover and conceal some roof defects that James would not allow. Just my opinions and recollections...
I can't speak to costs because of the complications of the roof cracks and the added costs of repairing them.

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Reply #24 – April 25, 2013, 12:07:42 am

I am really trying to understand what coating is best, FOT or Xtreme. I want a great job, no short cuts. Costs are about the same, varies slightly.

FOT.....I like to texture, hear it is easy to keep clean, told it has UV and some insulation benefits (very little). I know they paint around rooftop mounts but find it somewhat disturbing if they do not lift cables. I've seen a FOT job and thought it looks good.

Xtreme.....not sure what type of texture it is, hopefully is has some anti-skid protection and not smooth. Like the two coats approach and repair cracks. Great comments about Stallings and his approach/paint work. Not seen a Xtreme roof job.

Now.....decision time. Are there any real negatives on either approach OR are they just about the same. Does is boil down to personal preference OR is one really better than the other......COMMENTS PLEASE, thanks.

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