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Two different size tires on our coach

Does anyone else have two different size tires on their coach? Our steer tires are 275/80/22.5 and the rear tires are 235/80/22.5. All are Michelins. The speedometer reads 61 MPH while the GPS reads 56 MPH. I realize the tire size causes the discrepancy in MPH, but why would anyone put the larger tires on? What height change would occur with putting 235s  on the front? Right now the coach appears to be level with the larger size tires on it.
Nitehawk,  Demolition Lady, & our NEW master, Zippy the speeding BB cat.
1989 Grand Villa 36' ORED
Oshkosh chassis, 8.2 DD V8
2006 Saturn Vue AWD

Re: Two different size tires on our coach

Reply #1
My ORED had 275/80R 22.5 all around which I replaced with 295/75R 22.5 which is the same diameter tire.  Putting these tires on the drive axle will correct the speedometer reading.

Hope this helps.
Rudy Legett
2003 U320 4010 ISM 450 hp
2001 U320 4220 ISM 450 hp
1995 U320 M11 400 hp
1990 Granvilla 300 hp 3208T
Aqua Hot Service Houston and Southeast Texas

Re: Two different size tires on our coach

Reply #2
Having 235s on the back will not handle as well, extend braking distance, turn more rpms, use more fuel and require you to carry two spare tires. We have 295/75s (same as 275/80s) all around.

Now you are turning 540 tire rpm per mile. Changing to 295/75s will drop that to 505 per mile or a 7% decrease in rpm. The 295 is almost 25% wider.

Here is a good truck tire computer I set up for your two different sizes: 235/80-R22.5 vs 295/75-R22.5 Tire Comparison - Tire Size Calculator

And yes, your speedo/odo will read much more accurately will the 295s on the back as Rudy has posted above.

Pierce
Pierce and Gaylie Stewart
'93 U300/36 WTBI
Detroit 6V-92TA Jake
1140 watts on the roof
SBFD (ret)

Re: Two different size tires on our coach

Reply #3
WOW, thanks guys!! Now I know what to shop for and what size to get. BUT, do I have the sidewall clearance with the wider tire?
Nitehawk,  Demolition Lady, & our NEW master, Zippy the speeding BB cat.
1989 Grand Villa 36' ORED
Oshkosh chassis, 8.2 DD V8
2006 Saturn Vue AWD

Re: Two different size tires on our coach

Reply #4
OK, now we have to figure if you have the same size Alcoa wheels that our later rigs have. Looks like you do have Alcoa wheels in your photo. It's possible the smaller tire size was fitted to give a little more power on hills towing a trailer.

Here is the official Alcoa size chart in PDF format. You should be able to compare part numbers on your wheel to get the exact wheel you have. With the tires mounted, the little bulge in the radial sidewall should not touch the other wheel's bulge as it can cause failure. http://www.alcoa.com/alcoawheels/catalog/pdf/brochures/SpecGuide11x17.pdf  You can also just take down your wheel part number and call your local Alcoa dealer and ask about maximum tire sizes, clearance, etc.

All maximum air pressures for Alcoa wheels are cold pressures, just like maximum tire pressures. Alcoa wheels are also forged wheels not cast like most cars have. This means they will bend if they hit anything and not break off chunks like most do. Porsche also uses forged aluminum wheels. Check the price on one wheel compared to Alcoa. A new 22.5 is dirt cheap in comparison.

Here is a great site for all Foretravel members to read. It shows how the forged wheels are made, how they do in accidents compared to cast wheels, etc. An excellent read: http://www.alcoa.com/alcoawheels/europe/pdf/en/facts_figures_2013_EN.pdf

Pierce
Pierce and Gaylie Stewart
'93 U300/36 WTBI
Detroit 6V-92TA Jake
1140 watts on the roof
SBFD (ret)

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Reply #5
ah, learn something everyday pm the Forum.....thanks Pierce for the wheel size discussion and the alcoa web site. 
Mike
2001 U320 4010 Build 5878 (Gus)
Wrangle Unlimited Toad
Nacogdoches

Re: Two different size tires on our coach

Reply #6
Thanks for those details... I was also not all that savvy about the tire sizes and had no idea that the Alcoa wheels were forged.

Someone needs to write a book; a compendium of Foreforum knowledge. :D

Craig
1993 U225 36' Unihome GV with PACBRAKE exhaust retarder, Banks Stinger and Solar Panels.
Toad: 1999 Jeep Wrangler 2-door soft-top.

"No one has ever had to evacuate a city because the solar panels broke."

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Reply #7
Craig, that would probably turn into an encyclopedia of several volumes.

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Reply #8
                   By going to a smaller drive axle tire , you gain pulling abilty. Maybe the previous owner pulled a large heavy trailer. That would be the main reason for a switch of this type ----or he had a friend where he got free tires of that size . How about midnight auto parts ?? Hope this isn't political or it will get scratched :o  Brad Metzger
Brad Metzger
2010 Phenix 45'

Re: Two different size tires on our coach

Reply #9
Another possibility: better toad towing capability, seeing as how the 8.2 DD isn't exactly a mind-boggling powerhouse!
Nitehawk,  Demolition Lady, & our NEW master, Zippy the speeding BB cat.
1989 Grand Villa 36' ORED
Oshkosh chassis, 8.2 DD V8
2006 Saturn Vue AWD

Re: Two different size tires on our coach

Reply #10
Thanks Pierce for the info on the Alcoa Wheels.  I found it interesting.  I just wish I could make my wheels dura bright.  I like the easy care issues.  What I did not know was that steel wheels have less strength.  That surprised me. 
Best of Travels

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Reply #11
I would not want "dura-bright" wheels, because it is a clear coat on the polished alloy wheels. Over time, this clear coat gets cracks which allows water in and turns into spider webs under the clear coat. The fix is to remove the clear coat and polish the wheels. Just apply wax to non dura-bright wheels every six months and polish with a high speed buffer wheel.
Wyatt
96 U320 40 WTFE, build 4943
84 Toyota Supra towd
2015 Jeep Wrangler towd
Victoria, BC, Canada

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Reply #12
When I bought my wheels they had some moderate oxidation.  I have tried the mother's wheel polish and they are better.  I have gone on the internet and searched and found out how to do it with progressively finer grit sandpaper then finally polish but just have not gotten around to doing it yet.  I have seen them polished and like the look.  When I was in dental school they used to say if it shines it flies.  I think it meant if it had a nice shine the instructors liked it.  I don't think that was the whole story. I guess I just need to get on that wheel polishing thing.  Raining today here, so not likely today.  LOL
Best of Travels

Re: Two different size tires on our coach

Reply #13
Nitehawk:
On my 1996 U320, the coach identification plate beside the driver shows the original OEM tire sizes for both front and back tires. Perhaps older coaches also have this ID plate, in which case you could determine the tire size the speedo was calibrated for.
Wyatt
96 U320 40 WTFE, build 4943
84 Toyota Supra towd
2015 Jeep Wrangler towd
Victoria, BC, Canada

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Reply #14
That s the beauty of the GPS, it gives you the correct info on flat straight roads.

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Reply #15
Mine has the Tyre sizes, Pressures, axle weights, all on the placard beside your drivers seat Norm, Left hand on the wall, Under the window, Just under the Ashtray, Hahahaha,

Mine has a non smoking sign near the exit door, Hahaha I use the ashtray,
Cheers,
Brian,

Toys, 1989 Grand Villa, 36 foot, ORED with 300 Hp Cat. 2002 Gemini 34 foot Sailing Catamaran, 2006 Honda Super Blackbird 1100XX, 2002 ZR7 750 Kawasaki,
25 HP Chinese tractor and Backhoe,

Re: Two different size tires on our coach

Reply #16
Same place on ours, but someone put different size tires on. Wondered why.
Nitehawk,  Demolition Lady, & our NEW master, Zippy the speeding BB cat.
1989 Grand Villa 36' ORED
Oshkosh chassis, 8.2 DD V8
2006 Saturn Vue AWD

Re: Two different size tires on our coach

Reply #17
OK, let's look at the major differences to you (from  Michelin's website):

https://www.michelinb2b.com/wps/b2bcontent/PDF/RV_Tires_Brochure.pdf

The XZE series comes in both sized.

                                235/80R22.5                          275/80R22.5

Revolutions/mile            555                                          516
Max load duels              4410 lbs                                  6610 lbs
Proper rim                    6.75/7.50"                                8.25/7.50"
Brett Wolfe
EX: 1993 U240
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