Large slide moves in.

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Re: Large slide moves in.

Reply #150 – February 11, 2014, 02:46:08 pm

Sounds like a good plan, Scott. You'll enjoy swapping them all around. LOL. From what you stated, the one under the dinette really does seem to be the most likely.

We're still waiting for the solenoid valve from HWH for my friend's 2002, so nothing new to report on that front.

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Reply #151 – February 11, 2014, 02:58:04 pm

It looks like we will be in Casa Grande, AZ when we make the switch. We will get there on March 1st.

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Reply #152 – February 11, 2014, 03:11:33 pm

Quote from: Carol & Scott – February 11, 2014, 02:58:04 pm

It looks like we will be in Casa Grande, AZ when we make the switch. We will get there on March 1st.

Couple hundred more miles West and you could get a helper....

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Reply #153 – February 11, 2014, 06:28:14 pm

I'll keep that in mind.

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Reply #154 – February 12, 2014, 06:15:29 pm

Ups delivered the new solenoid valve to my buddy, so at 2:00 we headed to his coach. First we took off the Isolation kit (which was still at around 2200 PSI...so we opened the retract valve and released the pressure), then we installed the new valve. By 3:30, I was back home, the new solenoid installed in his coach! Probably a total of an hour spent at the coach.

A couple of lessons learned:

Lesson 1. The LR slide extend valve is THE most difficult valve to get out. It is well tucked away nearest the wall and ceiling of the bay. There is also a fat hydraulic hose running across the top of it that must be lifted up a bit by person #1, while person #2 gets a smallish pair of channel locks around the end of the 1-1/2" valve. You only get a tiny bit of movement before you run into the ceiling and have to loosen your grip and re-establish it. It was VERY tight at the beginning, and stayed fairly tight almost all the way out. When I replaced the new valve, it screwed in 99% of the way by hand, needing just a nudge with the channel locks to finish it. Looking at the manifold, turning the solenoid body righty-tighty and lefty-loosy is the rule. No odd threading. BTW, as a left-hander, I crawled through from the opposite side of the coach and, laying on my right side, had pretty good access to the valve, both by sight and by feel. I'm thinking it might be more difficult to have to use your right hand.

Lesson 2. When you take apart the electric connector for the solenoid's wires, BE SURE YOU SOMEHOW MARK THE WIRE CONNECTOR THAT YOU TAKE OFF (a shrouded male connector with 2 pins inside). Because if you do not do so, when you get ready to plug your new valve back in, you will then discover that you have 4 identical connectors there to choose from. Then you will have to have someone release the bladder, press the extend button repeatedly while another person checks the 8 different pins to determine which of them is carrying power while the switch is pushed. The white connector wires are NOT the ones carrying power as you'd expect. It will be one of the black wires in one and only one connector...while the switch is being held down. What the three EXTRA connectors are for is unknown. This was a U320 with 2 rooms, yet still the extra wiring was present.

Were it not for the lesson learned in #2 above, we would probably have been done in less than 30 minutes. Now we just have to wait a bit and make sure the creep is all fixed and that there is no secondary issue with a cylinder.

The only other comment to make is that the drawing in HWH's MR55.2000 shows that new valves have 3 o-rings at the end and 2 o-rings near the body...and the drawing shows more o-rings on the old style valves. That does not seem to be true. Both the new and old valves have the same 3 rings at the end (2 are flat, the middle one is round) and 2 rings (one flat and one round) near the body.

Hopefully this is the end of the creeping room saga, Scott.

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Reply #155 – February 12, 2014, 06:46:48 pm

Congrats Brad - Glad to hear that you were successful. I will add the above stuff and get a revised doc off to you in the next few days.

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Reply #156 – February 13, 2014, 04:25:58 pm

Brad,
Thanks for all the detailed reporting re. this LR slide issue since I too have an '02 U320 with 2 slides. Sure helps understanding the whys and hows- specially when some of the info. fr the tech. sheets don't exactly jive with what one is staring at you at the exact instance. Nothing like a true and proven personal experience! Thanks a lot again!
Ed Pan

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Reply #157 – February 13, 2014, 05:15:16 pm

Quote from: Ed Pan – February 13, 2014, 04:25:58 pm

Brad,
Thanks for all the detailed reporting re. this LR slide issue since I too have an '02 U320 with 2 slides. Sure helps understanding the whys and hows- specially when some of the info. fr the tech. sheets don't exactly jive with what one is staring at you at the exact instance. Nothing like a true and proven personal experience! Thanks a lot again!
Ed Pan

You are very welcome. When we get done, we (Scott and I) should have this 4 month saga all boiled down into a nice document with pictures, explaining start to finish, including the "fork in the road" when you read the pressure gauge of the HWH Isolation kit: Solenoid Valve or Cylinder.

I can now tell you from experience that the behavior of the slide creeping looks identical whether it is a solenoid or a cylinder, so the only real way to know is that test kit which is less than the price of an hour's labor!

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Reply #158 – February 13, 2014, 06:47:42 pm

Brad - emailed doc to you.

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Reply #159 – February 13, 2014, 08:44:27 pm

Brad - Doc sent to Barry B.

Michelle/Moderator - I think that this thread is done. We have taken the gist of this thread and compiled a Document including an Index. As noted above we have submitted it to Barry B and are hopefull that he will include it in his wonderful web site. I do have the original document if you feel that it might be appropriate to include somewhere on this forum. Thank you for your most diligent work for all of us members. With out you we would be a mess. Steve too......

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Reply #160 – February 13, 2014, 08:49:37 pm

As a little frosting on the cake, my friend Dave just called me and verified that 30 hours later, there is no slide creep any more on his U320. Replacing the one valve fixed his problem!

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Reply #161 – February 13, 2014, 09:02:05 pm

YEA -

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Reply #162 – February 13, 2014, 09:16:21 pm

Quote from: Carol & Scott – February 13, 2014, 08:44:27 pm

Michelle/Moderator - I think that this thread is done. We have taken the gist of this thread and compiled a Document including an Index. As noted above we have submitted it to Barry B and are hopefull that he will include it in his wonderful web site. I do have the original document if you feel that it might be appropriate to include somewhere on this forum.

Scott,

The document would be a great asset to the Files section here on the forum. You should be able to upload it yourself. http://www.foreforums.com/index.php?action=media;sa=album;in=165 and click on "add an item". Let me know if you run into any problems.

Thanks!

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Reply #163 – February 13, 2014, 10:32:43 pm

Thanks Michelle - Done .

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Reply #164 – February 14, 2014, 09:49:26 am

Scott,

I've been following this thread with some interest. I'm in the middle of an upholstery renovation and just took my dinette and sofa out. The sofa is no harder to remove than the dinette except to get it out the door. If you have the same model sofa. Remove the front kick panel. Mine just lifts off. 4 bolts in the floor just like the dinette. Slide it forward and the two arms come off with 4 screws each. The back comes off with 4 bolts. Mine's is currently sitting in my living room.

If you want to get it completely out of the coach, you might have to remove the co-pilot seat to get the sofa base out the door. It came off the pedestal with 4 bolts, 2 screws and 1 electrical plug. Maybe 30-45 minutes tops to completely clear both out. Plus two people to maneuver the parts out the door. PM me if you need any other info.

Attached is what my sofa looks like.

Rich

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Reply #165 – February 14, 2014, 10:29:40 am

Thanks Rich - Hopefully I won't have to remove the couch to get to that cylinder.

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Reply #166 – February 14, 2014, 04:24:40 pm

Barry B. has added this doc to his website. It can be found at: 2002 HWH Slide Creep as well as our own File section.

Thanks everyone for your input and patience. Brad you rock.

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Reply #167 – March 02, 2014, 05:30:12 pm

So, Scott: March first has arrived. Have you started the process yet?

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Reply #168 – March 02, 2014, 09:19:56 pm

Hi Brad - I ordered the cylinder a few of weeks ago. When I checked back to verify shipment I was told that the new cylinder was not completed yet - they needed a part. The day b/4 we left Houston, Feb.27th, I received a call from them and the cylinder had shipped on the 25th and was due to arive on the 28th to Houston. Well I had advised HWH that if it didn't arrive by the 26th it would have to ship to Casa Grande. They were supposed to catch the shipment and re-route it. I suspect we should get it Monday/Wed. We have dentist appointments on the 6th in Los Algadones so I probably will not get into it until the week of the 10th.

I am tempted to drive up your way for your capable and knowledgeable assistance, but I should be able to git er done.

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Reply #169 – March 02, 2014, 09:45:14 pm

Quote from: Carol & Scott – March 02, 2014, 09:19:56 pm

I am tempted to drive up your way for your capable and knowledgeable assistance, but I should be able to git er done.

I'm sure you will be able to git R dun...I was just offering more like some "misery loves company" help.

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Reply #170 – March 02, 2014, 09:50:30 pm

It is true, misery does love company. I would like to add something witty but I am not the sharpest tack in the box and ........

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Reply #171 – March 02, 2014, 10:13:28 pm

Hey, we will be camped out on Ogilbi (incorrect spelling?) Road, well we will be tomorrow in any case. I am having a bunch of dental work dome in Algodones, give us a shout when you are in the area.

Roland

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Reply #172 – March 07, 2014, 01:29:28 pm

Got the new cylinder, a couple of plugs and caps from a local Parker distributor. Need a little bit of wood for the support. All I have to do is decide when to Git R Dun. $:-\$

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Reply #173 – March 07, 2014, 04:37:06 pm

Quote from: Carol & Scott – March 07, 2014, 01:29:28 pm

Got the new cylinder, a couple of plugs and caps from a local Parker distributor. Need a little bit of wood for the support. All I have to do is decide when to Git R Dun. $:-\$

Here's some non-encouraging words. I had the slide out last time for about a week, and thought I noticed a slight creep in. So I brought it in for a day, then put it back out yesterday. Today, there was a creep noticeable on both ends. So I may be back to square one. I sent an email to Joe asking if I should re-test with the isolation kit (my friend Dave kept his for just such ocassion), or go straight to the caps test to see whether the rebuilt cylinder is faulty. ARGHHHHH!!!!

At least the header is rebuilt and easier to take down now, and I know the process.

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Reply #174 – March 07, 2014, 05:25:50 pm

Brad...no rest for the weary and no good deed goes unpunished. Besides that...life isn't necessarily fair.

Jim

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