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Engine Maintenance - Stop Engine

With the great advise and experience I get from the Forum, I installed a new water pump (old water pump was leaking) and tensioner. Did not realize it would be that easy. Replaced the lost coolant with Rotella ELC.

Started the engine and got an "engine maintenance" light. A few seconds later a "stop engine " light came on which I did.

I assume the engine should have produced a fault code from this event.

How do I determine the fault code if one was generated?

Any suggestions or experiences with similar problems? Could this be associated with the water pump leak and replacement?


thanks,


jack

2003 400 ISL
Jack - Cynthia

Jan 2013
2003 U295 38'
3810 PBFS (6180)
2014 Jeep Sahara Unlimited

Re: Engine Maintenance - Stop Engine

Reply #1 –
More than likely there is an air lock and it is detecting low water in rad. Start again and see if it changes.
JohnH
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Re: Engine Maintenance - Stop Engine

Reply #2 –
You will need a shop or special reader to clear the fault code as it will be stored in the computer if it's like ours. Won't effect starting or running. Just like a diary only electronic.

Pierce
Pierce and Gaylie Stewart
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Re: Engine Maintenance - Stop Engine

Reply #3 –
Quote from: cynjac –

Started the engine and got an "engine maintenance" light. A few seconds later a "stop engine " light came on which I did.

I assume the engine should have produced a fault code from this event.

How do I determine the fault code if one was generated?

Jack,

Barry has some info on his site regarding how to get the blink codes Cummins ISM Engine Codes - After 2002

VMSpc would also show it.
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2003 U320

Re: Engine Maintenance - Stop Engine

Reply #4 –
Are there blink codes on a 2003 ISL400?
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Re: Engine Maintenance - Stop Engine

Reply #5 –
Another good reason for a VMSpc.  You always get instant info on current faults, along with everything else.
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Re: Engine Maintenance - Stop Engine

Reply #6 –
Probably an airlock but you can read the blink codes or get Silverleaf. A reader is expensive and with the Silverleaf you will have it in the coach from now on.
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Re: Engine Maintenance - Stop Engine

Reply #7 –
In changing a water pump or anytime you drain the anti freeze you must be care full that all the air has got past the thermostat. An air lock can damage the engine.
Peter and Frieda Morin
1999 36ft. U320 Foretravel
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Re: Engine Maintenance - Stop Engine

Reply #8 –
How do I know if it has an air lock?

I did start the engine again and the problem did not clear up.


jack
Jack - Cynthia

Jan 2013
2003 U295 38'
3810 PBFS (6180)
2014 Jeep Sahara Unlimited

Re: Engine Maintenance - Stop Engine

Reply #9 –
Jack,
Why don't you go to the local Cummings shop and tell them what you did and what you have now? Ask them what they do after they change a water pump or drain the coolent for service.
JD
John Duld
1995 U320C SE 40'

Re: Engine Maintenance - Stop Engine

Reply #10 –
Did you get it up to temperature to open the thermostat?? Do you not have an air release valve on the tubing? Crack a couple of rubber tubes clamps to see if air comes out.or email Brett he answers right away
JohnH
Coachless, now use aircraft. 2003 Ford Travelair TC280 class C. Super shape. Just for 1 yr .
1994 Ford E350 ClassC,total renovation inside and out. Now sold.
2000 U295  36' Cummins 350 c/w Banks Stinger, Resonator upgrade,Solar, LED lites.Residential fridge with slide out pantry. Build 5674. Sold
ex 92 GV 022C ored Cummins. Sold
ex 95 GV240 cat 3116. Sold
2017 Mini cooper s & 2016 land Rover LR2 HSE  LUX.
jhaygarth@aol.com    SKP #130098
treat everyone as you would like to be.

Re: Engine Maintenance - Stop Engine

Reply #11 –
I shut it down as soon as the stop engine light came on.

The first time the engine died or shut down own it's own as I had walked back to check for leaks after changing the water pump.

I will ck for an air release valve or try to loosen a hose to ck for air. I did start to remove the radiator cap but it had pressure on it so I chose to add coolant through the overflow.


jack
Jack - Cynthia

Jan 2013
2003 U295 38'
3810 PBFS (6180)
2014 Jeep Sahara Unlimited

Re: Engine Maintenance - Stop Engine

Reply #12 –
I would say if it shut itself down you do have air or the engine thinks level is dangerously low. My frien here in his C Coach just had the same thing happen as the circulating pump was leaking bad and level dropped enough eng shut down. Must be big air lock, but again try to email brett--bawolfe10@hotmail.com
Johnh
Coachless, now use aircraft. 2003 Ford Travelair TC280 class C. Super shape. Just for 1 yr .
1994 Ford E350 ClassC,total renovation inside and out. Now sold.
2000 U295  36' Cummins 350 c/w Banks Stinger, Resonator upgrade,Solar, LED lites.Residential fridge with slide out pantry. Build 5674. Sold
ex 92 GV 022C ored Cummins. Sold
ex 95 GV240 cat 3116. Sold
2017 Mini cooper s & 2016 land Rover LR2 HSE  LUX.
jhaygarth@aol.com    SKP #130098
treat everyone as you would like to be.

Re: Engine Maintenance - Stop Engine

Reply #13 –
Thanks for the advise and help John..............

I'll send Bret an email.


jack
Jack - Cynthia

Jan 2013
2003 U295 38'
3810 PBFS (6180)
2014 Jeep Sahara Unlimited