Re: New foretravel model on K-3 Reply #25 – April 25, 2014, 10:00:43 am The dealer is Motor Home Specialist. They are located in Alvarado, Texas. Quote Selected
Re: New foretravel model on K-3 Reply #26 – April 25, 2014, 10:09:57 am Jeff, all I had was the magazine announcement by Amys of Foretravel. Amys wrote available 2015. Brad raised interesting question....will it be a Foretravel name or like the Lone Star, a model built for that dealer and carrying their name, sold no other place? Quote Selected
Re: New foretravel model on K-3 Reply #27 – April 25, 2014, 10:11:04 am During the 2 Grandventions we've attended (2007 and 2012), members of the audience asked the panel about building Foretravels on third party chassis during the "Ask Foretravel" session. The general gist of the questions was that this could provide an entry level coach for those not in the market for Nimbus, Phenix, or IH. In the past the response has been "then it wouldn't be a Foretravel; the entry level Foretravel is a used Foretravel".Perhaps these new MHSRV coaches will have a different brand? It will be interesting to see. If the price point is right and the coaches have some chassis features we have come to expect (retarder, air leveling, great road manners, big tanks), with the house part being built by Foretravel these could be interesting coaches. Quote Selected
Re: New foretravel model on K-3 Reply #28 – April 25, 2014, 10:15:39 am We can call it a -Foretravel Quote Selected
Re: New foretravel model on K-3 Reply #29 – April 25, 2014, 05:42:04 pm Do you think they will use the molds from the U 270-320 Series. Quote Selected
Re: New foretravel model on K-3 Reply #30 – April 25, 2014, 06:59:18 pm Foretravel needs to increase the manufacturing throughput to stay viable as a company. By increasing the amount of units out the door each year they can contain their fixed overhead costs and continual to stay in business. As owners of used Foretravel's its what we need to be able to maintain our units with factory support. I for one do not want to own an orphan.Al Quote Selected
Re: New foretravel model on K-3 Reply #31 – April 25, 2014, 08:13:03 pm The word is --- the big dealer who these are being built for , can pick his own name . Who knows what that will be . One thing for sure , it is going to be interesting . Maybe Foretravel will build the same unit , make a few changes and produce it for their own sales with the new Foretravel classification number or name . I see some good if this turns out that way . A lesser price coach , maybe smaller will have a price point that will fill a big gap . How the cards are being dealt and played will be a big part of Foretravel's future in the long term. I truly wish them well . Brad Metzger Quote Selected
Re: New foretravel model on K-3 Reply #32 – April 25, 2014, 08:47:16 pm The K3 is a big chassis. I have looked at the Essex and the Phenix as they came out at the same time. I know last year the Essex crossed the 800 sales and that was a bnch more then the Phenix. It sold at 6-700k too. I think this might be a great way to get more sales as is the command coach that they talked about at the grandvention. Quote Selected
Re: New foretravel model on K-3 Reply #33 – April 26, 2014, 07:57:03 am Perhaps this can turn into a further evolution. Somewhat like what happened when transitioning from the GV to the Unicoach. Hopefully it will work in tandem long enough for the company to grow and become fiancially set with deep pockets in order to ride the rough times out.Larry Quote Selected
Re: New foretravel model on K-3 Reply #34 – April 26, 2014, 12:08:32 pm Maybe it will be a K-3Travel. If it meets with success, we might see a TooTravel and a OneABeeTravel. Quote Selected
Re: New foretravel model on K-3 Reply #35 – April 26, 2014, 12:52:38 pm Threetravel ... One less than Fore. Quote Selected
Re: New foretravel model on K-3 Reply #36 – April 27, 2014, 07:27:39 pm I can certainly understand from a business perspective why Foretravel would want to do this. Having a high volume of product going through the factory certainly reduces the overhead cost per product, and I'm sure it costs less to purchase the chassis from Spartan than it does for Foretravel to manufacture its own chassis.However, I would hate to see the Foretravel reputation "cheapened" by this lower-end coach with a chassis manufactured by others. Therefore, I really hope it carries some name other than Foretravel. Quote Selected
Re: New foretravel model on K-3 Reply #37 – April 27, 2014, 07:47:55 pm David, I think you have it right. Thor does it with their various lines. From the Thor website: "Thor Motor Coach brands include Four Winds, Hurricane, Windsport, Chateau, Daybreak, Challenger, Tuscany, Outlaw, Palazzo and A.C.E." Each brand has various models. The Palazzo and Tuscany are their DP lines, and there are big differences between them, so they have different brand names. Since the Foretravel name already applies to a certain level of coach, a lower (or higher) level ought to have a different name.I understand that the IH45 is priced somewhere around $1-1.5 million. I don't know if there are other brands more expensive than that, but I would guess that there might be. I also would guess that there aren't a lot of sales up there, but then there wouldn't have to be. If Foretravel ever decided to compete in that market I'm sure that they would want a new name for that line. Hmmm, wonder if one of these days we will see Phenex by Foretravel, Nimbus by Foretravel, IH45 by Foretravel as each line is developed to appeal to a slightly different market, along with maybe the lower level line being discussed in this thread and maybe one above the IH45?No, I DON'T know anything about Foretravel's business plans. I just like to dream about all the expensive things out there that I'll never be able to afford. Wait a minute - I'm sitting here in a coach that sold for $350,000 20 years ago. I wonder how old I'd be when an IH45 gets to be 20 years old. Will I be able to afford it then? Will I be able to drive it then? Fun to dream. Quote Selected
Re: New foretravel model on K-3 Reply #38 – April 28, 2014, 08:20:22 pm All this talk about a new Foretravel from a group of us with old ones. Yes mine is old to its a 95 u320 and I love it. Why because its solid and its in great shape and because like other old RV's that are well cared for and reliable it gets all the attention when camping. I like many of you with great old coaches pull into a campground and command all the attention. While the guys with the new ones don't get any. Anyone can get a new bus, but the ones I like are the ones that have stood the test of time, and whose owners are proud. So I take my hat off to all you guys with old coaches and lets not worry to much about a new Foretravel which some day will be old to. Quote Selected
Re: New foretravel model on K-3 Reply #39 – April 28, 2014, 08:48:52 pm HelloJust a note from a "wanna be" Foretravel owner and one who enjoys reading the all the post on the Forum.I was at the Factory today and saw the first Foretravel built, Motor Home Specialist, Spartan Chassis, it was a 42 foot, Cummins 500HP, tag axle coach. No name for the coach as yet.Best wishes to all. Quote Selected
Re: New foretravel model on K-3 Reply #40 – April 28, 2014, 09:16:58 pm Joe, welcome to the forum. Those of us who have older coaches are very thankful that some years in the past there were people who could afford to buy new coaches. Many of us will never be in a position to even think about buying any sort of new coach, much less a new Foretravel, but what's new today will be on the market as a used coach at some point in the future, and someone will want to move up to a newer coach. What concerns some of us is that Foretravel, like other manufacturers, is making fewer coaches now than they did some years ago. At some point there will be much more demand for those coaches than can be met, and some Foretravel owners will have to decide to either upgrade and keep the coach they have or buy some other brand. Unfortunately, the other brands also have fewer coaches available, so there is little help there.My prediction is that Foretravel's remodel shop, as well as Extreme and the other businesses that support us owners, will see increased business over the next several years. Quote Selected
Re: New foretravel model on K-3 Reply #41 – April 29, 2014, 01:09:42 am If FOT is running at only around 25% production levels, they are in a very dangerous business position. I am surprised that they are not already OEM'ing products to keep the factory operating... Quote Selected
Re: New foretravel model on K-3 Reply #42 – April 29, 2014, 05:25:59 am cry42, did you get some pictures? Quote Selected
Re: New foretravel model on K-3 Reply #43 – April 29, 2014, 07:42:06 am Falconguy, yes, hopefully they will attach, not the best photos ever.I could be mistaken on the Horsepower, the Tag Axle appeared to be "pivotable" for turns, air ride suspension and it had leveling jacks. Quote Selected
Re: New foretravel model on K-3 Reply #44 – April 29, 2014, 10:02:37 am Hi Dave, thanks for the welcome. Its great to have a forum like this with people who share all there knowledge. I'm used to owning older things like classic cars and making them as original as possible. In my humble opinion Foretravel makes the best RV with my mindset. My coach has had no changes except upgraded TV's everything including the primus heat works just like new. Anything replaced was with oem parts. I am new to rving but I know I made the right choice. And my 19 year old bus can perform or outperform with most of the new ones. Its construction and simplicity make it the best choice. Happy Trails to everyone Quote Selected
Re: New foretravel model on K-3 Reply #45 – April 29, 2014, 06:05:57 pm Thanks for the pics. I'm at FOT now dropping off my coach for its "annual" . I'm going to try to get a closer look when I come back to pick it up. I'm really curious to see what this thing has to offer. Quote Selected
Re: New foretravel model on K-3 Reply #46 – April 29, 2014, 07:31:19 pm Quote from: Falconguy – April 29, 2014, 06:05:57 pmThanks for the pics. I'm at FOT now dropping off my coach for its "annual" . I'm going to try to get a closer look when I come back to pick it up. I'm really curious to see what this thing has to offer.Looking forward to what you learn! Hopefully the sales guys are able to discuss it... Quote Selected
Re: New foretravel model on K-3 Reply #47 – April 29, 2014, 08:41:43 pm Just got the new issue of the MotorCader and Greg Amys article touches on the new models for 2015 including the one for MHS and Lone Star. Things are looking up it appears. Richard B Quote Selected
Re: New foretravel model on K-3 Reply #48 – April 29, 2014, 09:56:23 pm @falconguy, were you sticking around and getting the coach back or having to make round trip?We are scheduled to pick our coach up on the 8th. Quote Selected
Re: New foretravel model on K-3 Reply #49 – April 30, 2014, 05:46:28 am Quote from: joeszeidel – April 29, 2014, 10:02:37 amHi Dave, thanks for the welcome. Its great to have a forum like this with people who share all there knowledge. I'm used to owning older things like classic cars and making them as original as possible. In my humble opinion Foretravel makes the best RV with my mindset. My coach has had no changes except upgraded TV's everything including the primus heat works just like new. Anything replaced was with oem parts. I am new to rving but I know I made the right choice. And my 19 year old bus can perform or outperform with most of the new ones. Its construction and simplicity make it the best choice. Happy Trails to everyoneGlad to hear from another owner that uses the Primus system. VERY rare. Hopefully we can help each other with up keep. Quote Selected