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Re: New foretravel model on K-3

Reply #50
ChuSmith, unfortunately it is a drop off. I really prefer to stay and monitor things. However, this pesky work thing keeps interfering with my plans. I will be back on or about the 13Th if you are around. 
2002 U320 40Ft  MC # 15759
Coach # 5995
Previous coaches
2002 U320 coach  #5941
1996 U270 coach #4808

Re: New foretravel model on K-3

Reply #51
Same for me, funny how that work thing seems to get in the way of all our fun.
oh wait, no work, no fun... Geez

I am anxious to get a look at the new build and now after seeing the details on TV regarding the Luxury Bus from San Antonio to DFW, I am wondering if FT isn't entering the Passenger arena. Interesting stuff.

Pick up the coach on may 8-9 and will be back home in Liberty Hill by Sunday for Mom's day with the family.

Will try to catch ya'll next time.
Chuck & Brenda
2000 U295

Re: New foretravel model on K-3

Reply #52
PIPE DREAM,
K3 shorter at 38 foot with circa 95 GV front end, genny in front, mid entry, dual roof ac's ducted,dual pane glass could get by with 500 horse power, then add 2 propane furnaces, Domestic reefer, doorbell with touch handle, Retarder, include usual GV amenities and price it at about $750.
Wait, I could do a drastic remodel on my 95 and come out better.
No I have not been in CO inhaling. ;D
Gary B

Re: New foretravel model on K-3

Reply #53
On MHS web site it looks like they are going to call it the Foretravel Rhelm FS6.

Mark
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Mark and Tanya
Milton , Florida
US Navy Veteran (DV)
1999 U270 Special 40' CAI , 2015 Jeep Wrangler Sahara

Re: New foretravel model on K-3

Reply #54
Mark,  Would you mind posting a link to this new info...  I am sorry, yet I cannot find it...  THANK YOU
Jeff & Sandy
1997 American Eagle 40' Slide-less
2013 Toyota FJ Cruiser 4X4 Toad
Interested in Foretravel Coaches

Re: New foretravel model on K-3

Reply #55
Found it Mark!  Under the Foretravel link it says:

Foretravel Realm FS6 coming soon...

no doubt additional information will be coming sooner...
Jeff & Sandy
1997 American Eagle 40' Slide-less
2013 Toyota FJ Cruiser 4X4 Toad
Interested in Foretravel Coaches


Re: New foretravel model on K-3

Reply #57
So is this saying that if the largest motorhome dealer in the country can not sell the IH and Phenix and Nimbus as priced they are overpriced.  It says that FT needed to come up with a less expensive version to sell unless they price it above the IH.  It will be interesting to see the price point they come put it at.  I am happy they are building units both the command coaches and these as it will keep production going but it also says that there might be an issue with the business model they had been using.  I guess the number of coaches sold speaks volumes and will speak again if this new coach takes off and outsells the others.
2025 Wanderbox Outpost 32 on F600 Expedition Motorhome
2015 Born Free Royal Splendor on Ford 550 nonslide version  for sale
Former Coaches  covering. 360,000 miles
1999 34 U270
2000 36 U320
2001 42' double slide U320
2018 Jeep Rubicon

Re: New foretravel model on K-3

Reply #58
John, I think James at Extreme said it best,it is my understanding that he told the Fore's to keep the U270 as the entry level coach, do away with U295, keep the U320 and buy Prevost shells for the Hi line coach.
The selected media item is not currently available.Bill&Doris 97 U270 36'
University of Parris Island Class of 66
Semper Fi  Build# 5174 MC#17094

Re: New foretravel model on K-3

Reply #59
Yes I think so too
2025 Wanderbox Outpost 32 on F600 Expedition Motorhome
2015 Born Free Royal Splendor on Ford 550 nonslide version  for sale
Former Coaches  covering. 360,000 miles
1999 34 U270
2000 36 U320
2001 42' double slide U320
2018 Jeep Rubicon

Re: New foretravel model on K-3

Reply #60
John, I think James at Extreme said it best,it is my understanding that he told the Fore's to keep the U270 as the entry level coach, do away with U295, keep the U320 and buy Prevost shells for the Hi line coach.

Foretravel did six 35' prevost conversions long ago.  Stopped when prevost switched only to 40'

Sold a couple of them used.  Not fast.  Heavy
"Riding and rejoicing"
Bob
1997 U320 40' Mid entry, build 5132,  wtbi ce27, 4th owner
2007 Solara convertible
2 prodeco tech outlaw ss electric bikes

1095 watts solar
08 Ls 460 and a sc430
2000 Ford F-250 superduty 4x4


Re: NEW Foretravel "Realm FS6"

Reply #62
600hp! Wahoo!11

Craig
1993 U225 36' Unihome GV with PACBRAKE exhaust retarder, Banks Stinger and Solar Panels.
Toad: 1999 Jeep Wrangler 2-door soft-top.

"No one has ever had to evacuate a city because the solar panels broke."

Re: NEW Foretravel "Realm FS6"

Reply #63
Don't see a retarder mentioned (nor the fresh/grey/black capacities).  Hydronic heat but not necessarily AquaHot.  Not a fan of the floorplan shown.
Learn every day, but especially from the experiences of others. It's cheaper!  - John C. Bogle

2000 U320 36' non-slide / WildEBeest Rescue
2003 U320

Re: NEW Foretravel "Realm FS6"

Reply #64
According to James T., this was supposed to be Realm by Foretravel, not Foretravel Realm. He is going to have this looked into.
Tom Lang K6PG (originally  KC6UEC)
and Diane Lang
2003 38 U295 build 6209
2016 Jeep Grand Cherokee Summit Ecodiesel
still have tow-ready 2006 Acura MDX 
Temple City, California
Motorcade 16681 California Chapter President
SKP 16663 member of SKP Park of the Sierra, Coarsegold California
FMCA F071251
Retired electrical and electronic engineer

Re: NEW Foretravel "Realm FS6"

Reply #65
Did not like the fuel slosh with a fore and aft fuel tank myself  but at this weight I doubt its noticeable. 

Having the tankage in the first compartment left to right across the coach lower the polar moment of inertia.  The farther forward the more the coach resists changes in its turning moment. That's why the unihome and unicoach have the tanks where they are.  But its a nice piece for a frame setup.

Steering box used to cause issues as it had to be on the frame to allow movement of the chassis from the rail car on delivery. A unicoach has the box mounted wider for a better straighter steering column angle and less wander.  Although independent front might negate that issue.

First photo showed a steering wheel and what looked to be a slanted steering column.

The 97 and up Foretravels I understand moved the box out farther to straighten the column.  But that is old stuff with solid.axles.

Guy in the cummins shop with an IFS 06 country coach 36' allure mentioned a lot of steering wander to me today.  Hopefully his possibly overinflated Yokohama tires are the culprit. 13,200 front tire capacity but with a lift mounted gold wing on the back the 120 psi was probably too high?

Went to weigh the coach after we talked.  Newby.  Plus I mentioned double checking the wheel bearings for correct adjustment.

K3 has Inboard air bags and shocks.  No xtarder.  Smart choice as the upgrade is an IH coach.

Saddle bagged compartments as they will hang from outriggers from the frame probably. 

Maybe not.  Makes the coach taller.  No runway for hose runs under the floor maybe.  Normal is bundled to a side  rail and not accessible long term. 

Looks like an old gillig or crown.  Huck bolted. 

Defintely the best chassis I currently see.

Part of any product is cash flow.  Most chassis are financed by the chassis builder until the dealer floors the coach.  Foretravel has no money out for the underneath parts.  At least that's how it used to be done. 

Probably $150k chassis? Guess? 
"Riding and rejoicing"
Bob
1997 U320 40' Mid entry, build 5132,  wtbi ce27, 4th owner
2007 Solara convertible
2 prodeco tech outlaw ss electric bikes

1095 watts solar
08 Ls 460 and a sc430
2000 Ford F-250 superduty 4x4

Re: NEW Foretravel "Realm FS6"

Reply #66
SO it is priced just under 700K.  That is closer to what the Phenix and IH should be at.  The Essex came out at the same time as the Phenix and they have sold over 1000 of them.  So, the price point and the dealer network makes a difference.  I wonder if the Dealer said you have to lower the price or we can not sell them as they cost too much.  The issue is 700 or a million still is rarified air.
2025 Wanderbox Outpost 32 on F600 Expedition Motorhome
2015 Born Free Royal Splendor on Ford 550 nonslide version  for sale
Former Coaches  covering. 360,000 miles
1999 34 U270
2000 36 U320
2001 42' double slide U320
2018 Jeep Rubicon

Re: NEW Foretravel "Realm FS6"

Reply #67
If it has an electric fridge and electric cook top,what dose in need with LP detectors for,did I miss something.
The selected media item is not currently available.Bill&Doris 97 U270 36'
University of Parris Island Class of 66
Semper Fi  Build# 5174 MC#17094

Re: NEW Foretravel "Realm FS6"

Reply #68
$4500 per mo for 20 years, I don't think so.
Steve & Nancy Snow
1987 GV 40'

Re: NEW Foretravel "Realm FS6"

Reply #69
There are 4 new Foretravels (Iron Horse) on the same dealers web site, listing for about $1.3M each and discounted to $800k.

Lyle Reed said the hand built custom chassis made all the FT's expensive to manufacture.

I suspect they are profitable at the current business volumes and head count, so added profitable volume should have a very positive impact
Tim Fiedler    2025 LTV Unity MBL on Order
2000 Chevy Tracker 2 Door Convertible 4WD Now lifted 4.5"
1985 Citroen 2CV6 Charleston
Murphy Rebel on wheels with 175HP Titan
Cessna P337
1980 48' Westport MY (!/4 Share)

Re: NEW Foretravel "Realm FS6"

Reply #70
As is the current trend in floor plan design; too many square feet dedicated to pooping & bathing, and not enough dedicated to cooking & entertaining...I suppose the nouveau riche tend to go that way?  Definitely not a camping vehicle, but very nice as is the usual with Foretravels of new lineage.

Ah...to have money to burn...
Peter & Beth Martin
No Forrest? What have you done?
MC# 15890 until Dec 2016; FMCA #F329677
Cincinnati, OH

Re: NEW Foretravel "Realm FS6"

Reply #71
As is the current trend in floor plan design; too many square feet dedicated to pooping & bathing, and not enough dedicated to cooking & entertaining...I suppose the nouveau riche tend to go that way?  Definitely not a camping vehicle, but very nice as is the usual with Foretravels of new lineage.

Ah...to have money to burn...

Glad I'm not the only one. I don't need a big bathroom and a big bedroom only prolongs the chase. I am pretty sure I've lived in apartments smaller than the bathroom on that RV!

Craig
1993 U225 36' Unihome GV with PACBRAKE exhaust retarder, Banks Stinger and Solar Panels.
Toad: 1999 Jeep Wrangler 2-door soft-top.

"No one has ever had to evacuate a city because the solar panels broke."

Re: NEW Foretravel "Realm FS6"

Reply #72
Multiple bathrooms in an RV has always made me chuckle.  Only in America.
1996 U295 36' WTBI

Re: NEW Foretravel "Realm FS6"

Reply #73
Multiple bathrooms in an RV has always made me chuckle.  Only in America.

Actually two bathrooms make a lot of sense, but only on a rear bath 45 footer with two bedroom slides and a non-folding bed. No need to roll, crawl, or jump over the bed to make it to the potty when the slides are in.
Tom Lang K6PG (originally  KC6UEC)
and Diane Lang
2003 38 U295 build 6209
2016 Jeep Grand Cherokee Summit Ecodiesel
still have tow-ready 2006 Acura MDX 
Temple City, California
Motorcade 16681 California Chapter President
SKP 16663 member of SKP Park of the Sierra, Coarsegold California
FMCA F071251
Retired electrical and electronic engineer

Re: NEW Foretravel "Realm FS6"

Reply #74
Our U300 has no slides, a walk-through bath, and a rear bedroom. As far as I'm concerned, that's the ideal arrangement.