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LED upgrade

Was wondering if their is an LED upgrade for the 24 some odd halogen under mount lights in our Coach? If so , any suggestions on best place to find them?
                                                        Thanks .

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Heathers a bunch on Amazon watch them from Chinding lots of 10 were really cheap seem to work I bought the warm white disorder like a disk with LEDs on the plug into the Halogen bases

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You folks are terrific! Thanks. Now if I can remove the covers without them disintegrating!

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I just ordered 4 ceiling lights from Foretravel Parts.  2 are smaller and fit in a 2" hole and 2 are bigger (4 1/2" diameter) that fit in a 3" hole.  These are the lights they are using in current coaches.  The smaller ones are $15 something and the bigger ones $18 something. They have glass lenses not plastic. 

I priced out getting new brushed chrome trim rings to replace the brass ones (trying to change the decor) and then the LED bulbs to replace the halogen bulbs (after permanent modification) and the FT OEM parts don't seem too bad. 

I'll check them out, see how much light they put out and how many amps they draw.

They might be a good choice especially with a Motorcade Discount.

Roger

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Quote from: Home2fromHastings –
I just ordered 4 ceiling lights from Foretravel Parts.  2 are smaller and fit in a 2" hole and 2 are bigger (4 1/2" diameter) that fit in a 3" hole.  These are the lights they are using in current coaches.  The smaller ones are $15 something and the bigger ones $18 something. They have glass lenses not plastic. 

I priced out getting new brushed chrome trim rings to replace the brass ones (trying to change the decor) and then the LED bulbs to replace the halogen bulbs (after permanent modification) and the FT OEM parts don't seem too bad. 

I'll check them out, see how much light they put out and how many amps they draw.

They might be a good choice especially with a Motorcade Discount.

Roger
Sounds like it could add up quick... Wonder what advantage there is in replacing entire fixture vs bulb only? I can see new covers if these crack which seems to be likely already . Am I incorrect in thinking I gently pry covers loose?

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 I have done all my Halogens and flourescents too and love them. Use about 1/50th the power so if you want your battery to last a lot longer(if you do not have solar and boondock) then this is the way to go. Simple change over and NO more burned out or hot fixtures.
JohnH

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The light rings need to be turned counter clockwise to be removed.

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Went to Super Bright website after hours, the G4-WWHP 12 DAC isn't in production. Wondering if any bulb with the G4 designation would work?

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Quote from: TAS69 –
G4-WWHP 12 DAC isn't in production. Wondering if any bulb with the G4 designation would work?

A couple of things to look for

G4 is the bi-wire base.  If that's the type of halogen bulb you have (usually is), that would "technically" work if 12V (and you likely need side-pin rather than back-pin).

Next, voltage range.  LEDs are sensitive devices.  Look for a range of operating voltages (say 8-30 Vdc).  That will mean there is constant current driver capability and the LEDs will last MUCH longer in an RV environment.

Next, color temperature as expressed in degrees Kelvin.  2700 will be closest to the warm white of the halogens.  5000 will resemble a cool white fluorescent.  It's a matter of personal preference (we strongly prefer warm white).

Then, lumens.  Higher is brighter.

Lastly, CRI or color-rendering-index.  Higher is better (more true to color).

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I have tried the G4 base LED bulbs that are about the sme size as the existing halogen bulbs.  No where near enought light.  There are other G4 based LED lights but most are bigger and don't fit.  Some have suggested taking out the heat sink of the existing ceiling lamps nd fitting in an LED bulb that will fit.

New trim rings if you want to change to look are about $11. $3 or $4 for a bulb.  Time for each lamp?  Pretty quickly the new lamps look pretty reasonable especially if the existing lamps can be used by someone else.  If you have seen the glass lensed lamps they are using now they seem to be a good choice.  Lots of light.

I found something similar with a plastic lens and unknown output from a China supplier for about $9 each, in lots of 10.  Part of the issue is getting replacements after a year or two.

I will see what they look like and report. 

Roger

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Quote from: Home2fromHastings –
I have tried the G4 base LED bulbs that are about the sme size as the existing halogen bulbs.  No where near enought light.  There are other G4 based LED lights but most are bigger and don't fit.  Some have suggested taking out the heat sink of the existing ceiling lamps nd fitting in an LED bulb that will fit.

New trim rings if you want to change to look are about $11. $3 or $4 for a bulb.  Time for each lamp?  Pretty quickly the new lamps look pretty reasonable especially if the existing lamps can be used by someone else.  If you have seen the glass lensed lamps they are using now they seem to be a good choice.  Lots of light.

I found something similar with a plastic lens and unknown output from a China supplier for about $9 each, in lots of 10.  Part of the issue is getting replacements after a year or two.

I will see what they look like and report. 

Roger
Hope all goes smoothly on your project. May very well follow suit when your finished. Man alive these things are HOT!Previous owner almost burned our Coach to the ground when his grandkid knocked a pillow off the bed onto the nightstand where it contacted light! Think the trouble removing rings is due in large part to heat welding /deteriorating the plastic where it touches the fixture.

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try amazon they have good prices on leds replaced all the lights in our 98 u 295

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Jim,

Examples?  I am a big Amazon fan but haven't found much that I like for fixtures.

Roger

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I have found these to be the same (at least very close) to color and intensity of the OEM halogen lights I had in my motorhome. 
Price was pretty good too. 
My greatest difficulty was inserting any bulb when the receptacle two prong holes were facing towards a wall.  Very hard to align.  A mirror and headlamp helps a lot though.

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Were you reusing the original lenses/rings? The foretravel deals may end up being the best route for us as these seem pretty well deteriorated!

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I reused my rings after replacing the halogens bulbs with LED's.  I either broke a couple or discovered the broken trim rings.  I don't particularly like it but I really don't wish to change out all of them for the missing 2.  I will say that I am happy with the LED's.  Those trim rings are a booger to get off.  Maybe the heat from the halogens has caused them to deteriorate? 

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Most everything is on ebay. 
The bulbs over the dinette were too much for my budget, everything else was reasonable. 
The round wafer G4 2W 5050 9SMD LED NON POLAR READING DC 12V soft white are sometime hard to locate but they plugin without modification and waay cooler than halogen... 
LED tube lights?? 
Replacing the courtesy bulb (entry handle) was a good move.. pc