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October 29, 2014, 09:19:16 am

I know this topic has been discussed many times and everyone has different ideas about what the best system is but I am in need of replacing all of my 10 Pressure Pro Sensors at a cost near what some of the other systems sell for brand new. So I would like to get the latest in opinions from our very smart members what the best system is and which one is the best value.

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Reply #1 – October 29, 2014, 09:56:39 am

You will get an opinion for every one out there. I have TST-507 Flow Thru (6) sensors. When I bought it I got a free five year warranty. The sensors have repllacable batteries and they come with spare o-rings and screws. I was not getting reliable reception in my 36' so they gave me the repeater. Works fine now. I have had one sesor go bad which they replaced right away. I have replaced about 1/2 of the batteries in almost three years. I had the valve in one stem get loose which cause a very slow leak, just tightened it up and it is OK. Customer service is good.

You can set high and low pressure and temp limits, adjust calibration and set up is very easy. Sensitivity is good. Often just adding air will set the alarm off, rapid change of pressure. Monitor is easy to read once you find the best spot for you.

So this seems like a pretty good one. Works the way I want it to. Gives me peace of mind that it is watching my tires as I drive. I thought about getting the non-flow thru caps for the toad, haven't done it.

It will be interesting to see what others recommend.

My 2¢. Roger

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Reply #2 – October 29, 2014, 10:06:46 am

I have the TST system similar to Roger's. Mine are the older non-flow through type that I bought in 2010. They have been trouble free and customer service is very responsive.
Would not travel with out them. I would like to have the flow through type but as long as these keep working, I probably will not upgrade (I am too cheep)
All I have done is replace the batteries every couple of years.

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Reply #3 – October 29, 2014, 11:09:33 am

I had the pressure pro system for years. I did have a few issues with sensors on the crossfire system that I installed on the dualies. I purchased the tier tracker system at Q last year. You can change the batteries, easier install than Pressure Pro. I am happy with the system.

Roland

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Reply #4 – October 29, 2014, 11:27:23 am

Forgot to add, system measures tire temp also. I did install a repeater in the bedroom, don't know wether or not it was needed. Important t issue for me was replacing batteries, batteries less costly than new sensors. Wonder if Pressure Pro will ever change over to replaceable batteries? I gave my PP system away at Q last year.

Roland

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Reply #5 – October 29, 2014, 02:00:16 pm

Hi Kent,
I bought the TST 507 with the regular (non-flow through sensors) at Q last January. I actually didn't get around to installing it until a few weeks ago, but so far I am favorably impressed. At the show, I was able to see Pressure Pro, TST, and one other system who's name escapes me (all I remember about it was that it failed to impress). I went with the TST because the display was the most readable, had a nice compact form factor, replaceable batteries (in the 507 system), and the fact that they also have an option for sensors with 5 year batteries that go inside the wheel Truck System Technologies - TST 507 Internal Tire Pressure Kit (just like modern cars). I at least have the option to put those in when I replace the 4 drive axle tires. For now, I went with the non flow through because I felt they were a bit too bulky and wouldn't work on the outer dually without changing the valve stem. They do have a different flow through external for trucks that looks interesting...
Anyway, it seems solid so far. It can take awhile to pick up the sensors if the receiver is turned off (the sensors just transmit every two minutes unless there is a rapid pressure change). It is a pain to install the one for the outer dually (unless you have valve stems that don't point back to the rim). The sensors need a tool to remove or replace to discourage theft. The Pressure Pro system can be integrated with Silverleaf, but I think a dedicated display is fine for this.
Don

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Reply #6 – October 29, 2014, 04:23:33 pm

+1 for TST-507 with flow thru sensors. Dito all that Roger said. 1 1/2 years with no issues.

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Reply #7 – October 29, 2014, 06:15:47 pm

Ditto all the above re TST system. I bought it for the great display (PP more ackward)
Portable (carry it around to program each tire sensor vice running back & forth with the tethered PP)
Very easy to program settings such as hi & low by axel in your easy chair (PP is fixed at the time of installation on wheel. Hot day/high pressure guarantees alarm going off the next cool night. Bizzare!)
Great support.
I needed the repeater with a 40' coach for reliable rears and the toad.

After a couple of years I'm still very pleased with the system and wouldn't be without it.

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Reply #8 – October 29, 2014, 06:46:53 pm

I bought a TST for our SOB five years ago. I took it off and gave it away after about six months. It was not the "flow through" model. Newer systems probably work better. Problems were related to poor operator (me

), old stem grommets, and extremely cold operating conditions (not unusual for us).

I had failures of stem grommets on two wheels. They were probably old and brittle, but possibly just needed snugging up. (poor operator, weight of TPMS sensor on end of stem) A couple of sensors quit working in temperatures of 0-32F. That was completely unsatisfactory for us.

I recently bought a new Pressure Pro system from Randy at BestConverter - Converters, Inverters, Electrical Supplies, Electronics. There were a couple of glitches in ordering, but Randy provided personal service , a competitive price, and expedited shipping to atone for an ordering glitch. I installed metal valve stems and new tires on the towed vehicle. I bought a system with ten sensors, and have driven about 2,500 miles with the system. I've been pleased. The system works well without a repeater. There have been no leaks and it's nice to check tires from the driver's position and expect an alarm if there is a problem. I have learned to unplug the system during the night to avoid an annoyance that won't be addressed until after breakfast in any case. Alarms seem to be most common when tire temperatures drop while parked overnight.

I've had a couple of alarms, primarily due to dropping temperatures. A few days ago, I spent a considerable amount of time on a cool morning setting baseline pressures. PP and TST use different methods of setting baseline values. Each system has its advantages and disadvantages.

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Reply #9 – October 29, 2014, 06:48:25 pm

Kent, will Pressure Pro give you a discount on reorder?

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Reply #10 – October 29, 2014, 07:28:35 pm

What is the replacement battery for the TST system?

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Reply #11 – October 29, 2014, 10:25:02 pm

The TST 507 batteries are intended to be changed approximately every 10-12 months. Some of us are getting more time. The 507 sensors operate utilizing a CR1632 battery which is readily available and easy to change.

The 510 system sensor batteries lasts 5+ years. When 510 sensor batteries do finally die, you can simply return them to TST. For $19.95, they will replace all sensor gaskets, they will replace the shell, they will replace the battery, and they will send you a reworked sensor ready for 5+ more years of service. Pretty appealing.

There are discounts for 507 users to upgrade to the 510 system.

Roger

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Reply #12 – October 29, 2014, 11:22:09 pm

My understanding is that the 510 is the older system and it uses a different frequency and therefore is not compatible with the 507 sensors. The price of the basic system is the same and the distributor at Q had both. I was attracted to 5 year battery life, but there display on the 507 seemed easier to read. Also the 507 has numerous sensor options; Non-flow through with replaceable batteries, flow through (for trucks) with 5 year batteries, internal sensors with three different valve stem lengths (also under the truck menu), commercial flow through system with 7 year batteries and flexible valve stem extensions (they have some kind of mounting bracket, but no pictures of the sensors mounted on the wheels that I could find), the 507 RV series valve stem mounted flow through with replaceable batteries. The last, while an attractive idea to make tire filling easier, sticks out a bit too much for my comfort level on the front and the outside inward facing dually valve stem seemed to me like it would be impossible to fill the tire without removal. I didn't see the truck version with the valve stem extensions or I might have been tempted. I don't see how the brackets on them would work with my T-Kane axle covers. So ultimately, I would like to get the internal system. If the batteries in those really last seven years, we would be ready for new tires by the time they are dead.
Don

Quote from: Home2fromHastings – October 29, 2014, 10:25:02 pm

The TST 507 batteries are intended to be changed approximately every 10-12 months. Some of us are getting more time. The 507 sensors operate utilizing a CR1632 battery which is readily available and easy to change.

The 510 system sensor batteries lasts 5+ years. When 510 sensor batteries do finally die, you can simply return them to TST. For $19.95, they will replace all sensor gaskets, they will replace the shell, they will replace the battery, and they will send you a reworked sensor ready for 5+ more years of service. Pretty appealing.

There are discounts for 507 users to upgrade to the 510 system.

Roger

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Reply #13 – October 30, 2014, 10:42:02 am

Quote from: Barry & Cindy – October 29, 2014, 06:48:25 pm

Kent, will Pressure Pro give you a discount on reorder?

I got a quote from Tirepressuremonitor.com of $42 each for replacement program. I can buy a new TST 507 system for about the same price with all 10 sensors and a replaceable battery so that is what I think I will do.

I can't believe that some of our very smart engineer type forum members haven't figured out a way to open up the Pressure Pro sensor and install a new battery. I may have to try it with one of mine before I go spending $400+ on new sensors or a new system.

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Reply #14 – October 30, 2014, 06:00:52 pm

My friend with pressure pro had a blowout this winter i think these systems add more risk to the tire then it provides protection.

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Reply #15 – October 30, 2014, 06:05:14 pm

Quote from: John S – October 30, 2014, 06:00:52 pm

My friend with pressure pro had a blowout this winter i think these systems add more risk to the tire then it provides protection.

Does he think that the PP contributed to the blowout? I'm leaning to the TST but I have Crossfire on my rear duals and not sure which version to get.

Craig

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Reply #16 – October 30, 2014, 06:12:21 pm

Howdy Kent, Here's a link to what I use:
Tire Traker

Where I bought: RV Safety Accessories Inc

Good Luck, Dave A

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Reply #17 – October 30, 2014, 06:59:36 pm

I'm not sure if the TST 510 is newer than the 507 or not. They are not compatable. The 5 yr battery life is appealing. My 507 has worked well.

No tire pressure monitor system will prevent a blowout either from tire failure or from road damage. Even with my TST 507 I physically check the pressure in every tire every day before the coach moves. I hope the tire pressure monitor will alert me to changes in tire pressure or temperature as we drive. Whenever we stop I like to do a walk around. Hot tires may indicate a problem. Hot rims may indicate a problem. Changes in ride or handling may indicate a problem.

These systems are an aid to help you be safer on the road. Ulitmately, safety is simply up to you. As Dave M. wisely reminds us, "Do what makes you happy."

Roger

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Reply #18 – October 30, 2014, 08:15:16 pm

I have a pressure pro system that I bought on eBay a couple of years ago. The senders were all dead, but I figured the replacement cost into the price, and ended up with the new style seals.

Before the tpms system, frequent air checks caused enough air loss that I needed to add air monthly. Now I just take a reading from the tpms receiver, and all is well. Been over 8 months with no loss.

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Reply #19 – October 30, 2014, 08:29:00 pm

It doesn't seem to matter to me what system is used on the coach. I believe in the flow thru devices. What is really important to me is the expansion capability so that you can add sensors on the towed vehicle. I believe that it is more important to monitor the tires on the towed than it is on the coach. If I obtained a system for tire monitoring, it would include this capability. Have a great day ---- Fritz

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Reply #20 – October 30, 2014, 08:38:16 pm

Quote from: Dave and Nancy Abel – October 30, 2014, 06:12:21 pm

Howdy Kent, Here's a link to what I use:
Tire Traker

Where I bought: RV Safety Accessories Inc

Good Luck, Dave A

It's interesting that I had come to the conclusion that the Tire Tech On system from Amazon was the best value. I believe it to be the same as the Tire Traker system (Amazon.com: TireTech On TP7004 Wireless Tire Pressure Monitoring System w/ 10) but with a different label and considerably less expensive. Any comments anyone?

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Reply #21 – October 30, 2014, 08:50:13 pm

Quote from: Kent Speers – October 30, 2014, 08:38:16 pm

It's interesting that I had come to the conclusion that the Tire Tech On system from Amazon was the best value. I believe it to be the same as the Tire Traker system (Amazon.com: TireTech On TP7004 Wireless Tire Pressure Monitoring System w/ 10) but with a different label and considerably less expensive. Any comments anyone?

Howdy Kent, the Tire Tech On looks exactly like the Tire Traker system. Good price savings as well.
Great find...Good Luck, Dave A

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Reply #22 – October 30, 2014, 10:29:47 pm

When we bought our U295 4 1/2 years ago, it had a Pressure Pro system. Before we took delivery of the coach and attached Jeep, there were two flats on the Jeep on consecutive days during our inspection. We removed the PP sensors and had no more flats until on the Jeep until we encountered road debris a couple of years later.

We had Herman Power install fresh tires. One of the tires went flat immediately. We removed the PP system and haven't had a flat since.

My understanding is that PP changed the sealing system, so we decided to try TPMS again. After 2,500 miles and a few weeks, things are looking good.

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Reply #23 – October 31, 2014, 09:52:23 am

Quote from: Kent Speers – October 30, 2014, 08:38:16 pm

It's interesting that I had come to the conclusion that the Tire Tech On system from Amazon was the best value. I believe it to be the same as the Tire Traker system (Amazon.com: TireTech On TP7004 Wireless Tire Pressure Monitoring System w/ 10) but with a different label and considerably less expensive. Any comments anyone?

Great find and with ten tire sensors (which is what most people with a towed actually need) and the tool all for $359! The only caveat is that the sensors are supposed to be used on "brass or aluminum" stems (although at least one user is using the sensors on rubber stems). Does the TST version of this thing have the same restriction? One Amazon reviewer thought that perhaps a rubber stem would be too flexible for the sensor and another thought it might be dissimilar metal corrosion issues.

I can't tell if they are flow-through sensors. Anyone? Amazon.com: TireTech On TP7004 Wireless Tire Pressure Monitoring System w/ 10

Craig

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Reply #24 – October 31, 2014, 10:00:07 am

I'm pretty sure they are not flow through. I also can't see why at .4 oz they would be a problem on rubber stems. I think they are fine for rubber and due to the aluminum looking threads also good for aluminum or brass stems. I can't order until next week, we are on the move now, but will post again once I get them and have them installed.

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