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Engine batteries

My coach has Optima yellow top batteries. What is the Foretravel logic supporting the use of deep cycle batteries for engine starting? Mine are probably on their last legs, so I am considering replacing them with red tops. Just trying to learn the pros and cons of this issue.
Royce & Denise, MC #17410
'01 U320 4220 ISM450 Build #5895 SOLD
Toad: '10 Honda CR-V

Travel makes one modest. You see what a tiny place you occupy in the world. - Gustave Flaubert

Re: Engine batteries

Reply #1
Just replaced my 4 yellow tops with 4 red tops that were purchased from Amazon. Personally, I think the Reds are the way to go. Just can't figure out why mine had 4 instead of 3 or 2.
The engine really turns over nicely though.
Rick & Deborah Webster
2002 3610 U320 #5964
2014 Jeep Wrangler Sahara JKU- 'Copperhead'
Richland Chambers Lake, East Texas

Re: Engine batteries

Reply #2
Get the red tops. They provide a higher cranking amperage.  There is no advantage with the yellow tops for starting out motorhomes.
David and Carolyn Osborn
1995 U320C SE 40' Build 4726 Feb 1995
FMCA 147762
Motorcade 17186

Re: Engine batteries

Reply #3
BamaFan,
I have heard it discussed that yellow tops may be better choice if the coach sits idle for periods of time, like a lot of coaches do.  Like so many other things, I guess it depends on how they are maintained.  Our coach came with 3 yellow tops. 
Bill and Joyce, The House2 and Dashboard Pig III
2000 U320 4210 CAI (The House2)
Build # 5733
2019 F150 King Ranch FX4

Re: Engine batteries

Reply #4
I would suggest that those who are considering replacing their Yellow Tops with Red Tops read the FAQs at the Optima Website. After reading the discussion of Yellow Tops vs Red Tops, the reader will be better equipped to make an informed decision.

Also, please read the electrical schematic that came with the coach to determine what is powered by the starting batteries other than just cranking the engine. It may just be that the starting batteries do more than just start the engine.

Yellow Tops have a greater cycle life than Red Tops and can accept more charging amps for a faster charge rate. Red Tops have more cranking amps than Yellow Tops. These are some of the differences in the two batteries.

I would suggest that if you coach came with Yellow Tops. Replace them with Yellow Tops.

Larry
Larry and Terry
Ex 2004 U270 36'

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Reply #5
The Optima Website has a lot of confusing information. The key thing to remember is that Yellow Tops are deep-cycle batteries, which can be useful if you have a deep-cycle application. Starting our motorhomes is not a deep-cycle application. It's one that is appropriate for a starting battery, which is exactly the application for which the Red Top is designed.
David and Carolyn Osborn
1995 U320C SE 40' Build 4726 Feb 1995
FMCA 147762
Motorcade 17186

Re: Engine batteries

Reply #6
I agree with David.  Use RedTops for starting, and YellowTops for deep cycle applications(not starting).  Also I have two(2) RedTops for starting my Cat 3116. They are  now 10 yrs old and doing fine. I do keep the MH on shore power all the time, with the Boost switch on and the 12 volt switch at the door turned on.  This lets the charger/converter maintain all batteries, 2 RedTops, 2 Interstate 8D.  One more point, starting is a high amp, short duration application(redTops); lighting, refrig, tv these are deep cycle applications which are low amp, long duration applications(yellowTops).
Pat/Blue Angel
1995 U240 36ft
MC# 16511
Build# 4653

Re: Engine batteries

Reply #7
I suspect Foretravel's logic in using AGM engine batteries in the first place is illogical.  The AGM batteries are best used when they will sit for long periods of time, as their self-discharge rate is very low.  The problem is that the coach batteries have a small constant (parasitic) drain from various electronics gizmos connected to them, so the low self-discharge rate is negated by a higher external discharge rate.  The only way around this is to actually disconnect the batteries when the coach sits unused, and live with the ECM losing some of it's learned parameters.

I read the specs, and don't see enough difference to use any factor other than price in choosing top color of Optima batteries, red, yellow, or even blue.

If I needed to replace my engine batteries now, I would consider using one more 8D AGM batterie,  just like I have for the house.
Tom Lang K6PG (originally  KC6UEC)
and Diane Lang
2003 38 U295 build 6209
2016 Jeep Grand Cherokee Summit Ecodiesel
still have tow-ready 2006 Acura MDX 
Temple City, California
Motorcade 16681 California Chapter President
SKP 16663 member of SKP Park of the Sierra, Coarsegold California
FMCA F071251
Retired electrical and electronic engineer