1996 Foretravel U295 for Sale - D709CL - PPL Motor Homes
Thoughts on this one July 06, 2015, 11:24:13 am 1996 Foretravel U295 for Sale - D709CL - PPL Motor Homes Quote Selected
Re: Thoughts on this one Reply #1 – July 06, 2015, 11:34:17 am Looks like the prices for no-slide RVs built in the 1990s are tumbling. Good news for some of us. Craig Quote Selected 1 Likes
Re: Thoughts on this one Reply #2 – July 06, 2015, 12:37:30 pm How spendy is it to reupholster a couch these days? Ya know, just in case a feller wasn't terribly impressed with a floral print such as this but could not pass up that drivetrain... Quote Selected
Re: Thoughts on this one Reply #3 – July 06, 2015, 02:57:21 pm This coach was mentioned in a prior thread:1996 U295 Quote Selected
Re: Thoughts on this one Reply #4 – July 06, 2015, 03:10:16 pm Quote from: twobus – July 06, 2015, 12:37:30 pmHow spendy is it to reupholster a couch these days? Ya know, just in case a feller wasn't terribly impressed with a floral print such as this but could not pass up that drivetrain...We have a 1997 U295, same floor plan and outside strips. The owner before us in 2000 spent $10,000, changing colors, carpet, fixtures, wood on refrigerator door, and a few other things by FOT Quote Selected
Re: Thoughts on this one Reply #5 – July 06, 2015, 05:13:28 pm Quote from: wa_desert_rat – July 06, 2015, 11:34:17 amLooks like the prices for no-slide RVs built in the 1990s are tumbling. Good news for some of us. CraigI think your right. The market for a non slide is shrinking I believe to the cost of a single. Soon the single will be were the non slide is at. When I see non slides with a 60-80k asking price I just can't see it. Quote Selected
Re: Thoughts on this one Reply #6 – July 06, 2015, 05:16:47 pm Certainly looks like a bargain at first glance. If it is a nice coach mechanically it would be worth interior upgrades as required by new owner I would think.Jerry Quote Selected
Re: Thoughts on this one Reply #7 – July 06, 2015, 06:00:23 pm Not sure if everyone know how PPL works. They price the RV cheap so they can sell them fast. They also ask you what will be your bottom dollar after they tell you what they think it can go for. They are not interested in you getting top dollar. They just want to move it fast and make what they can. When we sold an old Foretravel with them back in around 1985 we did not agree with what they wanted to price it at. We made them price it about 5k more. They balked but said they would do it. Within 2 days it was over in the sold section. After it sitting in the sold section for two weeks when the person could not come up with the money they put it back in the for sale section. We also got a call telling us that it had been over two weeks and the unit was not sold yet and we needed to drop the price. The one thing they did not know was I was working near by at the time and I would stop in every other day and saw it was only for sale for two days and sat with a sold sign for two weeks. After being for sale again for 2 days it was sold again and sat in sold section. Again after two weeks the person could not get a loan so went back back up for sale. Again another call for us to lower price. After 3 days being for sale again it was bought by someone that had paid cash for it and gave me the asking price we wanted. The coach had sat on their lot for little over a month but 4 weeks of the time it was there it had a sold sign on it.We also were getting calls about every few days saying it really needed to be cleaned and they would do it for $200.00I do not know if their MO has changed much since back then. Quote Selected
Re: Thoughts on this one Reply #8 – July 06, 2015, 06:31:47 pm Exhaust brake, no trans retarder (made standard in '97). I hate Mauve...It's like 'early bordello'. Did I mention I hate Mauve? Its all about the condition. Quote Selected
Re: Thoughts on this one Reply #9 – July 06, 2015, 07:00:58 pm Quote from: wa_desert_rat – July 06, 2015, 11:34:17 amLooks like the prices for no-slide RVs built in the 1990s are tumbling. Good news for some of us. CraigDepends on how you approach it. We were just offered$ 20,000.00 for our 95 280 which has several significant mechanical upgrades.Of course that was trade value but still, even if the late 90's 320 we want is dropping in value we are still looking at at least $10,000.00 loss on ours for little over a year of use! Thats assuming we can get close to $30,000.00 Private sale. Can't help but think the 36' Coaches are getting hit hardest from what I've seen the last couple days. Quote Selected
Re: Thoughts on this one Reply #10 – July 06, 2015, 07:11:31 pm My opinion? Foretravel quality, 8 outboard air springs, transmission retarder, all air disc brakes are worth a lot more to me than any number of slides... and some, for their own reasons (me among them), are actually preferring the simplicity and structural integrity of not having several garage door sized holes in the side of their coach. Okay, maybe that is just me DonQuote from: Mike Brez – July 06, 2015, 05:13:28 pmI think your right. The market for a non slide is shrinking I believe to the cost of a single. Soon the single will be were the non slide is at. When I see non slides with a 60-80k asking price I just can't see it. Quote Selected 6 Likes
Re: Thoughts on this one Reply #11 – July 06, 2015, 07:15:04 pm Quote from: Dave Head – July 06, 2015, 06:31:47 pmExhaust brake, no trans retarder (made standard in '97). I hate Mauve...It's like 'early bordello'. Did I mention I hate Mauve? Its all about the condition.No Aqua hot either Quote Selected
Re: Thoughts on this one Reply #12 – July 06, 2015, 07:33:13 pm There are still plenty of us Non-Slide folks out there. We talked to one just last week who knows that they don't want a slide. We see the value of not having to worry about a slide, the attendant air leaks and never having to drop $3000 on new seals. Simplicity has it value. Quote Selected 8 Likes
Re: Thoughts on this one Reply #13 – July 06, 2015, 08:01:54 pm Count us in the no-slide camp. If we were to ever decide we wanted something other than a Foretravel, it would be an Airstream. Some models did have a single slide, but those are fairly rare and do not bring a premium over their no-slide brothers. Quote Selected 1 Likes
Re: Thoughts on this one Reply #14 – July 06, 2015, 08:12:55 pm Quote from: kb0zke – July 06, 2015, 08:01:54 pmCount us in the no-slide camp. If we were to ever decide we wanted something other than a Foretravel, it would be an Airstream. Some models did have a single slide, but those are fairly rare and do not bring a premium over their no-slide brothers.Metal box in the sun or cold with a wood floor will leave you unimpressed after your Foretravel Quote Selected
Re: Thoughts on this one Reply #15 – July 06, 2015, 09:11:38 pm Want no slides, but looking for u320 for a cold weather machine. Quote Selected
Re: Thoughts on this one Reply #16 – July 06, 2015, 10:16:04 pm Had one with slides one time. Think it was called a pop up camper. Quote Selected 2 Likes
Re: Thoughts on this one Reply #17 – July 07, 2015, 12:25:06 am Just looked at Beamalarm site for 96 U295 and it said they have the 3060- 6 speed Allison with Retarder, so maybe this one just does not have the joystick but that can be added.JohnH Quote Selected
Re: Thoughts on this one Reply #18 – July 07, 2015, 07:52:38 am Just my thought but if non slides were selling like hot cakes and so many people wanted them one of the big manufactures would be making one. Quote Selected 2 Likes
Re: Thoughts on this one Reply #19 – July 07, 2015, 08:30:54 am Not everyone is into simplicity. I used to love the gadgets and bells and whistles. I'm older and wiser now. The majority of people want slides but if you don't need the extra room, a non-slide coach is a much stronger chassis, simpler to use and a much more economical choice long term. Manufacturers have to produce what the majority of the prospective customers think they want. Quote Selected 4 Likes
Re: Thoughts on this one Reply #20 – July 07, 2015, 11:16:55 am Well said Kent. They build what people are buying whether or not it is best. IMHO Larry Quote Selected 1 Likes
Re: Thoughts on this one Reply #21 – July 07, 2015, 11:35:26 am Quote from: Mike Brez – July 07, 2015, 07:52:38 amJust my thought but if non slides were selling like hot cakes and so many people wanted them one of the big manufactures would be making one. The "Big" manufactures are cranking out cardboard and stapled coaches with nice looking cosmetics, a few bells and whistles at a price point that is 1/3 of what a U320 was two decades ago... All with a multitude of slides! A used Foretravel apeals to a different buyer than what is targeted in the above. Quote Selected 2 Likes
Re: Thoughts on this one Reply #22 – July 07, 2015, 11:46:56 am Depends on use as well. Slides are great if you park and stay for longer periods of time. If you move every day or two and spend time at truckstops, small sites boondocking, etc...slides aren't as good. Also, if the floorplan is poor, you can't even use the inside with the slide closed! Quote Selected
Re: Thoughts on this one Reply #23 – July 07, 2015, 01:01:06 pm Quote from: krush – July 07, 2015, 11:46:56 amDepends on use as well. Slides are great if you park and stay for longer periods of time. If you move every day or two and spend time at truckstops, small sites boondocking, etc...slides aren't as good. Also, if the floorplan is poor, you can't even use the inside with the slide closed!Yes, there are certainly drawbacks to both. Since we tend to drive long days to get to the destination and spend many a night just pulling over to sleep, I definitely didn't want a slide that prevented easy use of sleeping areas with the slide in. It is nice to have the one living room slide, especially with a big group of visitors, and for room to spread out for a week in one spot, but the usefulness of the coach with the slide in was a major consideration. And there are some very cool setups with no slides that still allow for elbow room in the front of the coach. Especially when you just have a freestanding kitchen table or buffet type table with no booth, that just really seems to open things up. Quote Selected
Re: Thoughts on this one Reply #24 – July 07, 2015, 01:16:05 pm After researching on the Foreforum for a year we didn't even consider slideouts. I wanted to keep it simple KISS! That's why we elected to go with a 40ft. Plenty of room for the two of us and when entertaining we are usually outside anyway! Quote Selected
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