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Not getting digital tv signal

Yesterday we came into Menifee , Ca, got settled and I raised my Weinguard antenna with Wingman, turned on my booster, set tv for scan and got nothing.  Tried numerous antenna positions- nothing.  It was working while we were in Az, outside of Yuma and we did spend 1 night in a Passport America campground with cable- all was fine.  I was not able to get any reception during my stay at Pio Pico, but I thought it was because we were in the canyon.  Here I have had good tv in the past so.............?

Today I went on the roof and changed the cable out with a good cable to see if the antenna cable had gone bad- same results.
I have no idea what to check now, so I am asking my forum friends for ideas.  Digital tv has worked well for us and we have 2 less than 1 year old digital tv's.

Thanks for your help
Ted & Karen
2001 U270 36' - sold after 12 years full timing

Re: Not getting digital tv signal

Reply #1
Do you have the TV set up using air instead of cable?
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Reply #2
We've had that problem with DISH, as well. Every time, a simple call or e-mail has gotten us back in business.
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Yes I do craneman- thanks for asking..........sometimes I do overlook the obvious..................... ^.^d
Ted & Karen
2001 U270 36' - sold after 12 years full timing

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Mike- great you got it taken care of with Dish, but I just use the OTA free digital signals, so who should I call?
Ted & Karen
2001 U270 36' - sold after 12 years full timing

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Reply #5
The tv has a setup for air and does your coach have the push buttons to use ant?
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prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
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I have the push buttons- have been using them for 8 years.  Could there be a problem in the switch box??  If so, how would I be able to test that?  I am not a great electrician or tech, but can do some basic things if I have an idea where to look.  Right now I am lost......lol
Ted & Karen
2001 U270 36' - sold after 12 years full timing

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depending on accessibility to the back of the tv and switch box you can take the ant. from the box and hook it directly to the tv. if it still doesn't work the problem lies with the television.
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
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Reply #8
Good idea, however this is a problem on both tv's.  I have my original Weinguard batwing with the Wingman on top- do these antennas ever go bad?  I know there have been improvements made so I am wondering if replacing the 15 year old antenna with a modern one might be a good idea??
Ted & Karen
2001 U270 36' - sold after 12 years full timing

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Reply #9
...Tried numerous antenna positions- nothing...
Hi Ted - given that the cable you swapped was good and you ran it directly from the antenna to the back of the amplifier wall plate bypassing that push button switch box, then the issues is either in the amplifier wall plate ($20) or antenna head ($45). 

My original was not a Winegard but the head died.  Since it was discontinued I replaced the whole antenna.  I'm sure there is a way to test if there is power on the coax out from your amplifier wall plate.  Maybe someone can chime in and help narrow down what is needed.
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Mark & Mary Benko
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Reply #10
Ted,

The Winegard antenna requires 12 VDC to the antenna head on the roof.  Disconnect the coax from the antenna and check between center and outer/ground.
Brett Wolfe
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Reply #11
Brett- I have 12 volts power to the antenna

Mark- I just tested the cable on the roof from the antenna to the plate on the roof where it comes into the coach.  I had replaced that cable one time years ago and thought it might be bad now.

Ted & Karen
2001 U270 36' - sold after 12 years full timing

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Reply #12
Mark- how did you tell the head died?  That is what I am thinking at this point, but hate to buy a new antenna or head if there is another issue.

Thanks for the help
Ted & Karen
2001 U270 36' - sold after 12 years full timing

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Reply #13
If you didn't try to put the ant. into the television you still haven't eliminated the switch box. It can fail and it would not send a signal to either tv. It is a long shot but the fact you're not getting anything on the televisions is unusual as you can get some digital channels with nothing hooked up.
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2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
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Reply #14
Ted and Karen,

Being as 2 TV's do not work it is probably someplace other than the TV's.  If you are reasonably close to a broadcast tower, just sticking a 3 or 4' length of wire in the center of the cable connector on the TV should pick up a station.  Digital is much better for doing that than the old analog.  If you get a signal, then move the piece of wire to the next device to see if it works there as a means to find what isn't working.  The push button switch box in my coach stopped working and isn't made any more so I had to bypass it.  I use a spliter after the antenna amplifier to feed both TV's. 
Jerry Whiteaker former owner 96 U270  36' #4831 Austin,TX-Owner Mods LCD TV w/front cabinet rebuild - LCD TV bedroom - Dual Central AC, either can cool coach w 30 amp - Skylights at roof AC openings - Drop ceiling for ducting of AC - Shower skylight white gelcoat/wood/epoxy frame - Air Springs/Shocks replaced - 2014 CRV - 8K Home Solar - Chevy Volt

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Guess I will be taking things apart today......lol

It could be the switch box and since we don't use it for anything else, using a splitter would be a good solution.

Will let you know what happens.

Thanks for the ideas guys

 ^.^d
Ted & Karen
2001 U270 36' - sold after 12 years full timing

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Reply #16
If you could find a male to male coax connector and just direct wire the antenna to one of the tv's it would tell you if the switch was bad.
Len
Len and Deb Speiser
1999 U270 36'
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Quite honestly, I'd celebrate no t.v., no cell, no wi-fi. We traveled for years without the "connections". Could we survive without them, now ? HELL NO!
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                        Full-Timers 'Sailing the asphalt sea'

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Len- I did just that.  Took the cable from antenna and connected to tv1- still nothing.  So I'm now thinking it is not the switch box, but could be the booster- although I do have power to the antenna.  Does the  coax from the antenna go through the booster and then to the switch box?  If so, I need to find a way to test that.....

Mike- we had 3 weeks no tv, I did break down and get the campground wifi since my Verizon mifi wouldn't work at Pio Pico.
Phone and internet are more important than tv, but I want it.............s
Ted & Karen
2001 U270 36' - sold after 12 years full timing

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Reply #19
Did you consider maybe just maybe there wasn't a signal to receive?
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Reply #20
Yes Stump I did, however there are others near me with their antennas cranked up.  Also I have been here before and got tv just fine.


Ted & Karen
2001 U270 36' - sold after 12 years full timing

Re: Not getting digital tv signal

Reply #21
Well I have by passed the switch box- nothing.

Have power to the antenna

Booster is operating as I can see the red light on it when I turn it on

Coax cable on roof seems good as the new acts the same.

I guess it's time for a new antenna head.  I was looking at the Wineguard Razor antenna- anyone used it?  Good or bad experience?
What other antenna head should I look at?  Jack is the other one I have heard of.

Thanks for the help guys
Ted & Karen
2001 U270 36' - sold after 12 years full timing

Re: Not getting digital tv signal

Reply #22
Easy way to check for number of stations, signal strength and direction: http://www.antennaweb.org/Address.aspx
Brett Wolfe
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Reply #23
Thanks Brett
Ted & Karen
2001 U270 36' - sold after 12 years full timing

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Reply #24
I will try finding those signals after I put everything back together  so I have the boost connected and switch box etc.

If not- time for a new antenna I guess.  15 years and 130000 miles- can't get anything to last these days............lol
Ted & Karen
2001 U270 36' - sold after 12 years full timing