Brand New Replica HWH Plungers

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Reply #25 – March 11, 2016, 10:43:12 am

Now, if I could come up with a manifold to rebuild, then swap out on the FT with one trip under .

Thanks for putting this together!

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Reply #26 – March 11, 2016, 10:59:23 am

Quote from: toyman – March 11, 2016, 10:43:12 am

Now, if I could come up with a manifold to rebuild, then swap out on the FT with one trip under .

Check around with the big RV recycling companies. It is my impression that these HWH manifolds are found on several brands of diesel pusher motorhomes. You might get lucky and find some good used manifolds for sale!

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Reply #27 – March 11, 2016, 12:41:49 pm

Chuck,

I have a kit (O rings only, for six solenoids) for my 2002 coach that was provided to my by the HWH tech in Moscow - the number is RAP6554. Hum...I wonder if it is the same as you are getting?

So I called HWH parts dept. today to ask about the years and part numbers. The lady said they are all the same for ALL years of Foretravels including the tag axle:

The RAP1940 is for 1 complete solenoid for $109.00 each.

The RAP6554 is the 12 piece O-ring kit (2 O-rings for each solenoid for a 6 pack) for $8.00.

Jim

2002 U320

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Reply #28 – March 11, 2016, 01:00:26 pm

The kit offered via Chuck addresses all the Orings and plunger seals.

The HWH Orings kit is for 2/3s of the Orings and no plunger seals.

If had not already ordered these from an previous offering, I would do so now. Something to give serious consideration to.

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Reply #29 – March 11, 2016, 01:42:54 pm

Quote from: Rudy – March 11, 2016, 01:00:26 pm

If I had not already ordered these from an previous offering, I would do so now.

Rudy,

Thanks for the input. Tom McCloud mentioned to me that you are well-known and highly respected on the NewellGurus forum.

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Reply #30 – March 11, 2016, 03:58:54 pm

Quote from: John Haygarth – March 10, 2016, 11:14:47 pm

Jimmy, I do not know of any other way to say this except "So, what if we are left with a bunch of plungers as I doubt we will need to do the exchange again anyway, and at this price just think of the money saved compared to what it would have been had Chuck not got us this deal"?
A lot of owners think nothing of paying a mechanic $120 and hour to change their oil etc, so think of the positive side of it all. Money saved for once
JohnH

I agree and have ordered two sets , I just hate to throw anything away

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Reply #31 – March 11, 2016, 05:53:34 pm

Quote from: Rudy – March 11, 2016, 01:00:26 pm

The kit offered via Chuck addresses all the Orings and plunger seals.

Not just the plunger seals, but the entire plunger plus new springs. Enough for all 6 valves for less than the price of 1 replacement valve.

Over time, the plastic seat on the plunger will take an imprint of the metal mating piece.

Jerry Whiteaker successfully remachined one of his on a lathe, Jim McNeece found similar plungers (slightly smaller diameter plastic seat) which Chuck found have a current price of $20/per plunger (or more for 6 than this kit which includes O-rings plus springs for 6).

Thank you Chuck for finding this!

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Reply #32 – March 11, 2016, 06:04:21 pm

In case you missed my "Rebuild" thread, this is the condition of the 6 plungers from my front 6-pack manifold (after 23 years of faithful service). You can see that these appear identical to the one being offered in these kits. (see the photos in my initial post)

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Reply #33 – March 11, 2016, 06:58:45 pm

Quote from: Chuck & Jeannie – March 11, 2016, 06:04:21 pm

Steve,

That plunger looks markedly different from the ones in my valves.

Actually, that was me, Michelle, who posted.

Just an example of how HWH valve seats "take a set", not necessarily the same valves. I didn't mean to confuse, just to show that the plastic seats do "age out". I've since deleted my photo to avoid causing more confusion. Doug's photo below of the actual plunger shows the issue even better (and on the same part).

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Reply #34 – March 11, 2016, 07:01:12 pm

Another picture of a disassembled HWH Air Solenoid p/n RAP1940

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Reply #35 – March 11, 2016, 08:09:07 pm

I just advised Tom that we were now at a total order of 91 kits (546 plungers). He sounded kinda shocked, and said I need to hold off on taking any more orders until he gets a new price quote and revised lead time. I'm not sure what that is about...

If any more orders come in between now and midnight (my previously announced cutoff), I will have to put them on a temporary hold until I hear back from Tom. I will keep you advised as soon as I know more.

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Reply #36 – March 12, 2016, 12:57:15 am

Hey Chuck that sounds like you may get a better deal! Usually when volume goes up the price comes down- unless they cannot handle that volume and back out??
JohnH

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Reply #37 – March 12, 2016, 08:19:33 am

Yes, John, I think the greatly increased volume of orders is the concern. I now have 45 "customers" on my list, with 96 kits on order. I was keeping Tom apprised of the order numbers as we went along, but they suddenly shot WAY up yesterday. Since he has to front the entire cost of the combined orders from both forums out of his pocket, he is feeling the same financial pressure that I am. I have assured him that our forum (which means...ME) will step up and take all the kits we ordered, and that he won't get stuck "holding the bag".

Tom contacted me late yesterday evening, and said he needs to check with his supplier on Monday. Until then, the order list is "locked".

As of today, no more orders will be accepted from our Forum.

I don't think we need to worry. If we all stick together, I am confident that this deal can go through. I will immediately post here any updates as I get them from Tom.

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Reply #38 – March 12, 2016, 08:49:48 am

May I suggest you open a Paypal account and we pay the fees in advance (plus the 3% Paypal fee). Those that don't have an account and don't want to open one should send you a check in advance.
I am happy to do either

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Reply #39 – March 12, 2016, 08:52:21 am

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Reply #40 – March 12, 2016, 09:55:31 am

I appreciate your offer to pay early, Tim, and the other similar offers I have received via PM.

I think at this point, it is best to go one step at a time. Let's wait to hear what Tom has to say, after he checks with his supplier. Then, if the deal is still on, we will go forward. Once I am sure the actual order has been placed for the plungers, there will be a 3 week or so waiting period until they are delivered to Tom. During that time, IF our members volunteer to do so, I will gratefully accept advance payments for the orders. Any payments I receive before I have to send my "BIG" payment to Tom will, of course, reduce the financial strain on me.

I should get the sample kit from Tom on Monday. I will post photos here of the contents, and my impression of the quality, etc. Having the sample kit will also let me decide what USPS Priority Mail box will work best for shipments. I will then work up exactly what the total cost will be for each shipment, based on the number of kits ordered. I will include the (optional) costs for extra insurance, if desired. More on that later.

I already have a long-standing PayPal "personal" account. I am presently researching my options within that account. I will let you know how the PayPal option will work, as soon as I figure it out.

Thanks for all the expressions of support. This project grew FAR larger than anticipated, and it is taking a while for Tom and I to catch up. We (both) also appreciate your patience. For everybody's sake, we want this deal to be a success!

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Reply #41 – March 12, 2016, 10:28:31 am

Chuck, Money forwarded to you via PayPal will be reduced by a 3% fee.

Oops, I missed Tom's comment earlier.

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Reply #42 – March 12, 2016, 11:25:42 am

Free in Canada when you use your bank account or balance.
This I just copied from Pay Pal website and I have sent a few large amounts of money to England without any fees either side so wonder if this also applies to US accounts. You do have to say you are sending money to friends or family though. This would apply as we are all one big family-right?
I too will do whatever is necessary to make it easier for Chuck and Jeannie
JohnH

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Reply #43 – March 12, 2016, 11:45:32 am

Which is why I noted purchase price plus 3% 😊

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Reply #44 – March 12, 2016, 12:16:06 pm

No fees if designated as "gift"

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Reply #45 – March 12, 2016, 01:46:31 pm

No need to keep tossing this subject around. I will let you all know how the PayPal will work, when the time comes. I am not going to jeopardize my PayPal account or risk a visit from the PayPal Police (Black helicopters over my house, guys in Black Ninja suits banging on my door).

To keep this operation "legit" I think I will have to require the 3% to be added to the payments, but like I said, I'll let you know.

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Reply #46 – March 12, 2016, 02:26:57 pm

I'm just repeating here what I posted earlier this morning (Reply #37, above). This is for the benefit of late-comers, or those who don't bother to read earlier entries before they post or send PMs:

The order list is locked! As of today (03/12/2016), no more orders will be accepted from our Forum.

I will know more about the order status next week. If it becomes possible to accept more orders, I will let you know at that time.

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Reply #47 – March 12, 2016, 09:16:10 pm

Happy to pay the cost of rebuild kits upfront if it helps . It's going to be a considerable upfront outlay for you guys

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Reply #48 – March 12, 2016, 09:23:33 pm

Quote from: Jimmyjnr – March 12, 2016, 09:16:10 pm

Happy to pay the cost of rebuild kits upfront if it helps . It's going to be a considerable upfront outlay for you guys

Ditto

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Reply #49 – March 13, 2016, 01:22:54 am

Quote from: Jimmyjnr – March 12, 2016, 09:16:10 pm

Happy to pay the cost of rebuild kits upfront if it helps . It's going to be a considerable upfront outlay for you guys

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