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Re: Newbie Question: How To Make The First Coach The Last Coach

Reply #50
Lots of Forum Folk down there in Florida, maybe you can get a ride-along or a test drive from one of them. 
Roger Engdahl and Susan Green
2001 U320 3610 #5879 (Home2) - 2014 Jeep Cherokee or 2018 F150
Hastings, MN

Re: Newbie Question: How To Make The First Coach The Last Coach

Reply #51
Hey Gadget Guy, I'm pretty far from you but if you got up this way, you could come see/test my coach out...she's only 36' though, & going into the shop 3/21 for the week then home for a week then off to several rallies 4/6....I still vote for getting to TX & seeing a whole lot more great coaches of all sizes at FOT & MOT.  There are some other coaches around here you could see but we'd have to plan in advance.....snowbirds are getting ready to bail out soon....

Also, LazyDays in Tampa (right around the corner from where I keep my coach) has a pretty good (I hear) driving school & will let you drive one of theirs while at school, check out Motorhome, Luxury RV, Trailer & Fifth Wheel Sales & Service | Lazydays for details. 

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Reply #52
Another thought is to just go to a dealer that has a couple of coaches in the size you want.  Become "interested" in one and test drive it.  That's what I did.  And boy was I sold on the Foretravel!  This thing drives like a Cadillac (when Cadillacs were built like Cadillacs)...

Thirty minutes later Beth and I took the plunge...13 years ago...and we still have our adopted "Forrest Foretravel".  Right about now I know about 80% of what there is to know about Forrest...still learning...It's alooooong learning curve, modifications & repairs/upgrades.
Peter & Beth Martin
No Forrest? What have you done?
MC# 15890 until Dec 2016; FMCA #F329677
Cincinnati, OH

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Reply #53
Again, thanks to all who have chimed-in on this thread. Also, to those who have PM'd me and preferred to offer advice in a private manner.

I received an interesting PM overnight that centered around the topic that everyone has a different opinion of a starter coach...he was correct and there is no wrong answers on this topic. I thought I would share my response to his question and bring you up to date on my thoughts. The bottom line is that while I was dead set on getting my last coach first, possibly a lesser model that would allow me to become familiar with coach usage is something I'm now considering. Here's my response to the PM (I won't state who sent me the PM as there may have been a reason he wanted to keep it private and I'll respect that!).

You raise good questions and yes, our definitions are different. In my mind, if I choose to get less than what I would consider to be my ultimate coach, I would consider that to be a starter coach. Everyone has their own definition of a starter coach and when it comes to what is a starter coach to them, they are right. Everyone has has different definitions and it's based on a variety of factors.

In my mind, whether it's a new coach, a demo model or a used model in good working order and is priced less than $300K, it would be a starter coach for me. If I decide to go all-in, I'm looking at a model in the range of a new Realm, IH-45, King Aire or possibly a Newell. For my ultimate coach, not only would it include the latest is safety and tech features, I would have the ability to lay it out in the method that works best for my lifestyle and desired method of usage and travel.

I'm not seeking to live on a coach full time and my hope is to use it as a vacation home that can be relocated at will. For example, I live in Florida and to have it stored locally during the Winter gives me the ability to take short driving trips to spend a few days, a week or possibly longer at selected, desirable top tier campgrounds. When the humidity hits, I would like to reposition it to the Western USA and have the ability to move it between California, Colorado, Texas, Utah, etc. Touring the National Parks is not on my priority list as I crossed those off my bucket list many years ago. I would hope to use it where I would fly back and forth to it when I want to get to the coach for a getaway and change of pace and scenery.

My frustration lies in the fact that although I know I want to do this, I want to be realistic and part of that is to be fully trained and feel safe in driving as well as comfortable with basic maintenance tasks and feel comfortable with knowing I can handle a coach of this size PRIOR to purchase and to be confident when driving it off the lot for the first time. Heck, what would you think if motorcycle or boat manufacturers sold their largest models without making sure the new owner had the ability to handle it? Training after the sale is the method the RV industry uses and when it comes to a motor vehicle, that just doesn't seem a safe way to operate a vehicle of this size and weight. In most states, motorcycle riders need to have a training certificate and a license endorsement prior to making a purchase. Why isn't that the same for a 45' motor coach?

In terms of finding a reliable coach, I have no false notions that any model I select will be perfect. I know the industry is broken and manufacturers often deliver "pretty" models to new buyers that have multiple defects and can take a while to get everything to the state it should have been prior to leaving the factory. I have no issue calling and paying for service when needed as I don't want to spend my time working underneath a coach. I also would like to find a coach where service doesn't require very long wait times just to make an appointment. Maybe it's the R in RV that's confusing to me as these models are supposed to be for Recreational uses and I don't think that waiting in line for months for service is a fun thing to do!

For learning to drive and maintain a coach, while there are companies who will send a trainer to the owner after the point of purchase, nobody has a training program for new buyers. Yes, Lazy Days offers an overview program and that's a good start, but it seems not one single company has taken this type of program further and this is something that would be good for the entire industry.

Personally, I don't think that it's safe to have a salesperson teaching the new owner how to drive and a certified trainer should be in the mix. For example, for motorcycles, you can take the MSF class and learn to ride in a supervised and safe environment and get the proper license for legal operation prior to purchase. For MH's, no such program exists...at least, I haven't found it. The only thing I've found on larger coaches is to pay $2,200 per day for a 45' rental (plus fees) and another $450 per day for a trainer as well as their transportation and travel expenses. When you add it up, it's equivalent to a down payment on some early model pre owned coaches.

Because of the lack of training available, the governing body of this industry, the RVIA, has done, in my opinion a poor job of developing a new driver/owner program that would bring more people to the world of MH's. Yes, it's their job to do this as they are paid by the manufacturers to establish programs such as this. Instead, they are simply lobbying our Government and that's probably why the safety standards for these types of vehicles are so low. (That was my Editorial opinion).

As stated in the original PM, the poster stated slides first appeared in 1999. Maybe that's correct for Foretravel, but they first appeared a few years earlier. So I added...

One more point, the slides came out a bit earlier than 1999. Here's a video I produced when I was with NBC's Today Show and this appeared live on the air in 1996:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rLTVZVRg4c

And,  here's Part 2 of that segment:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4P6TPmI7UNc&feature=iv&src_vid=-rLTVZVRg4c&annotation_id=annotation_76772303

I hope my response doesn't come off as being brash, as I'm not that type of guy. But I've been looking at doing this for quite some time and I'm now at the stage of my life where I have the time and resources to do this. I did contact a salesperson at Foretravel and let them know that I was possibly interested in a custom designed IH-45, but before making that decision, I need a method to get training. I was told they provide that after the sale, but not before. It was kind of like W.C. Fields telling the child, "Get out of here kid, you're bothering me," and left a poor first impression.

So, to answer your original question, Yes, I agree with you, everyone has a different definition of a Starter Coach and a Last Coach. That's what makes America Great...we all can have opinions!
A fully restored 1957 Flxible Starliner and a 2014 Marathon Coach

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Reply #54
As stated in the original PM, the poster stated slides first appeared in 1999. Maybe that's correct for Foretravel, but they first appeared a few years earlier. So I added...
One more point, the slides came out a bit earlier than 1999.

I am at a loss for words, but that has never stopped me before.

You have come to a forum, consisting primarily of owners of Foretravel moterhomes, and now you want to argue with us about when Foretravel started putting slides in their moterhomes? Foretravel was (admittedly) late in the addition of slides to their moterhome products. The first ones were introduced in 1999, and became more common in following years.
 
To support your argument (in response to a private message), you provide links to two videos from 1996, with an article about an RV (not a Foretravel) that had a slide.

Now that I have found the words, I am totally confused about your real intent in starting a dialog here.

Trent
Trent and Jean Eyler
2000  U295  4003  WTFE  ISC  350
Build#5603 MC#17385

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Reply #55
One more thing that has not been mentioned is the 5000 mile rule,whether you rent,beg ,borrow or steal a coach you will have to
drive it an average of 5000 miles to become comfortable.Also,if you walk into a Harley dealer and have a MC license they will
sell you the biggest model.Next time you see a new biker watch his feet,if he has both feet sticking out 2 blocks before he
stops he's one of the new owners.
96 U270 BUILD 4810
85 380SL
Drummonds TN.

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Reply #56
There has been much written about new motorcycle owners without a clue, skills, or correct license taking delivery.  The dealers will sell almost anyone, any hp, bike.  If you have the money, you can buy the most expensive, fastest, or loudest bike you want to own.  Yes the manufactures have supported the MSF system, and Harley split off to do it their way, on their own brand, on the smallest displacement bike they offer.  Typically if you drop the bike in the final test, you fail the course.  And the damage to the bike might be priced at less than $100. for a lever handle. I looked at a 90 day old Honda Goldwing, being sold, by a first time buyer, who somehow got it home but was selling as it was too big (only the largest and heaviest bike Honda sells).  I bought a almost new BMW with 387 miles, and one tip over, being sold, too much bike.  New it was over $25,000, bought and delivered to the garage by the helpful dealer.

With a long history in the boating, and yachting business/world, I have seen more than my share of new owners.  The dealers did not do a thing to educate, the buyer, or protect the innocent around the new boat or owner.  Back when Trumpy still built custom wood power yachts in Annapolis MD, a new owner, left the yard, to head for home waters.  He destroyed the yacht, when he tried to cross the shoal, between the Lighthouse and the point.  He was heard to say, "there should have been a sign or something to warn people".  Note that the Thomas Point Light, was built in 1875, and is a structure with keepers home, and is 43' tall.  It was built to help boaters in and out of Annapolis harbor.  Youtube is full of boating videos, hours of watching, for those that care to see how well the public is uninformed.  There are videos of professional skippers with boats stuck under bridges, tug boats under bridges, or run over by barges when the tug goes out of the channel and aground.  Life is interesting.

There is a charter bus company down the street from my home, and every time I see the sign, "learn to drive our coaches", I both want to take the course and cringe at the thought of those that are turned loose on the roadways.

I do applaud anyone that takes on new to them adventures.  May you always have tailwinds and smooth roads.


Dave Cobb
Buckhorn Lake Resort The Club, #6202, Kerrville TX
check the map.  I do rent it out when I am traveling!
2001, U320, 36' #5887, in Kerrville, FT Club #17006, (7/23 to present)
2024 Jeep Grand Cherokee L, Summit, white
EX: 98 U295, 36' #5219, (mid door), (4/13-10/23)
EX: 93 U225, 36' (4/11 to 4/13)

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Reply #57
Gadget Guru, I too am confused why the RVI industry does not have an affordable trial driving session  that is paid for by people who are in the same boat as you. At least here in Canada you HAVE to have at least some training  with air brakes and pass  (in BC) 2 tests before you are allowed to drive an air braked vehicle.  Why this is not required for a coach with hydr' brakes is beyond me, but at least it is a start compared to some areas were you "jump out of your car and into a coach???"
 FMCA should be the vehicle for this learning in my opinion but in reality FT and others that sell high end vehicles surely have the built in profit to at least allow you to drive a few hundred miles in one of their coaches to see!! If no one but FT or Newell does this I would think a buyer would lean towards one of them when a purchase is made??
This would be in my opinion a good way for FT to open up and get more sales if no one else does it.
I think it is called "Public Relations"
JohnH
Coachless, now use aircraft. 2003 Ford Travelair TC280 class C. Super shape. Just for 1 yr .
1994 Ford E350 ClassC,total renovation inside and out. Now sold.
2000 U295  36' Cummins 350 c/w Banks Stinger, Resonator upgrade,Solar, LED lites.Residential fridge with slide out pantry. Build 5674. Sold
ex 92 GV 022C ored Cummins. Sold
ex 95 GV240 cat 3116. Sold
2017 Mini cooper s & 2016 land Rover LR2 HSE  LUX.
jhaygarth@aol.com    SKP #130098
treat everyone as you would like to be.

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Reply #58
John, I am hesitant to say this is available for I may see the definition a bit differently than you pose, but because of his interest I have something of an answer.  I offered him in pm that I would see what I could turn up.  In that I found a fellow here in Nac that would do some training, even up to two days related to a purchase deal.    I know that is different than just going out and getting yourself some training at a center, a class, but at least I find you can get help, hands on, from a dealer when buying.  That may be available on another basis as well if anyone wanted.

Thanks John for ideas when you were here in Nac.  I always learn from visitors such as you and in the past few weeks with other owners (Best, Abrams, Wittleder, Millers, Sichenzes, Campbells) who have been my recent continuing education.  I hope I have repaid them too in experiences I could pass on.
Mike
2001 U320 4010 Build 5878 (Gus)
Wrangle Unlimited Toad
Nacogdoches

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Reply #59
In that I found a fellow here in Nac that would do some training, even up to two days related to a purchase deal. I know that is different than just going out and getting yourself some training at a center, a class, but at least I find you can get help, hands on, from a dealer when buying. 

The response from the folks here have been wonderful and allow me to say Thank You!

Over the next few weeks I'll be embarking on an adventure with the goals of getting behind the wheel and learning if this is something I want to pursue as well as if it makes sense to purchase my last coach first. During these trips I'll not only attempt to learn if I feel comfortable behind the wheel, but I hope to answer that big question: New or Pre-Owned? I'm still at the "I don't know what I don't know" stage and I hope this series of trips provides answers to the many questions that I don't even know to ask yet. Yeah, I'm big on attempting to do my homework!

The plan is to travel to various locations to experience, what is planned to be, a detailed level of training by professionals. I'm hesitant to offer details at this time as things are just now being coordinated and finalized...but the wheels are in motion. I will be happy to share what I learn when I return with the hope of assisting others who may be facing the same decisions and dilemma as I am at the moment.  Yeah, it's a chicken and egg thing. What comes first, the training or the purchase? I realize this industry is focused on having the driver trained after the point of sale and maybe I'm the backwards one, but I'm simply attempting to learn good operational habits prior to making the purchasing decision. Maybe I'm old school, but when I was a teenager, I did take Drivers Ed prior to buying my first car.

I hope to make this adventure a positive first step into the coach world, but still feel that learning safe operational habits is the logical first step that should come before making the purchasing decision. I fully realize that to people who have been doing this for many years that a newbies apprehension may seem overcautious and that's okay. But since I'm a true rookie to this, I simply need to feel comfortable that I'm up for the challenges that come with coach ownership. I've received some great advice in this forum publicly, on the phone and via PM and I'm soaking up all the information like a sponge and hope to soon figure out which path is the right one for what I'm attempting to accomplish and deliver the lifestyle I'm seeking. While my attraction to the features, functions and designs Foretravel offers is what brought me to this site, I honestly can't say if this is the brand that I'll end up with, but I'm absolutely going to give Foretravel a very strong look and do much more than just kick a few tires.

Yes, it would be nice if organizations such as the manufacturer-supported RVIA had programs that provided some sort of organized orientation and educational program in coach operation and ownership, but from what I've learned, it appears they simply don't feel this is important. While I'm not going to tell them how to operate their business, for me to proceed, as stated, I need to make sure that I feel comfortable operating many the things involved with ownership as well as feel confident in handling a large coach prior to purchase.

Also as stated, the good news is that with the help of the folks on this site, things are looking positive at this moment. So again, Thank You!
A fully restored 1957 Flxible Starliner and a 2014 Marathon Coach

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Reply #60
  Maybe I'm old school, but when I was a teenager, I did take Drivers Ed prior to buying my first car. I fully realize that to people who have been doing this for many years that a newbies apprehension may seem overcautious and that's okay. But since I'm a true rookie to this, I simply need to feel comfortable that I'm up for the challenges that come with coach ownership.  the good news is that with the help of the folks on this site, things are looking positive at this moment.
Yup, we've all been there: they seem too big for the road, you've got to plan for turns and about a hundred other things. That being said, for a select few of us, it's'' the way, the truth, and the light". I won't even tell the story about the PO of our first Airstream, suffice to say, he put traveling off too long. Now you have some options; new or used?  I rather like the older "retro" coaches, but you might have different tastes & needs and you should be open to all that are available. I'm usually not this long-winded, but, bottom line......BUY A FORETRAVEL!
1993 U-240 "La Villa Grande"..CAT 3116 w/ Pacbrake PRXB...Allison 3060 6-speed..
Previous: 1983 Airstream 310 turbo diesel, 1979 Airstream 280 turbo diesel
                                      Build # 4297
                                      PNW natives
                      Home base:  'Cactus Hug' (Ajo, Arizona)
                        DW Judy & Chet the wonder dog
                        Full-Timers 'Sailing the asphalt sea'

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Reply #61
I knew I wanted a motorhome. Once that decision was made we started looking on line and at dealerships. I just couldn't find one new or used that approached the standards we wanted. No pressboard, no wall paper, no plastic covered fixtures, no plastic toilet, etc.  I'm an active member of another forum. A member there was the first to mention Foretravel. ((He is also a member here).

I spent a year lurking and learning before I started posting questions. A foretravel was what I wanted. It ticked off all the boxes for us. I kept a close eye on MOT, FOT and the classifieds here.

I had not driven or even seen a FT in person yet. I had never driving anything approaching that size. The only other camper I did pull was a Coleman pop-up.  Spending time on this forum gave me the confidence to buy one.

Before I got serious I decided that Brett Wolfe was the guy for inspections and I wasn't going to settle for anyone else.  I started looking seriously when Brett was in town and available. I was online one day and a post popped up about a well known, well cared for and loved '93 GV U300 may be available. As soon as I looked at the pictures I called MOT and put down a deposit pending an inspection.

I flew down to NAC the next week to meet Brett for the inspection. I will never forget the first time I walked up to the coach. The salesman laughed at my reaction and said "they look even bigger in person".  I sat in the passenger seat during the test drive. I was scared to death. This thing was massive....long, wide, tall and heavy.

I did the deal and spent a couple of days at MOT having some work done. There were a few other forum members there at the same time. One kind soul sensed my fear and told me...all you have to do is put point your left knee at the lines on the left and point your right knee at the lines on the right. Easy. ;+)

After an hour driving lesson from MOT we began the 900 mile trip home. I've now driven about 4,000 miles and each time I feel more comfortable behind the wheel. For me, it was best just to jump without a parachute.

When we bought the GV we thought this would be our starter coach, that we would eventually move up to a 320. We've had our GV for almost a year. I cannot see any reason to 'trade up' to anything, ever. I love this coach and it's perfect for me.

I owe all of this to this forum. The knowledge base and willingness to share and help is just awesome.

New or used, Foretravel is the way to go. Good luck with your search and safe travels.
1993 U300 40ft GV SE
Build # 4344

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Reply #62
Another Plus to the GV Jeff is the, It's just cool factor! That the UniCoaches lack. :D

Just kidding UniCoach owners!
91 GV U300 Unihome 40' Build 3811
6V92TA Detroit

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Reply #63
Another Plus to the GV Jeff is the, It's just cool factor!
Plus +, they are easy to spot and toot the horns should you see one coming the other way  b^.^d
1993 U-240 "La Villa Grande"..CAT 3116 w/ Pacbrake PRXB...Allison 3060 6-speed..
Previous: 1983 Airstream 310 turbo diesel, 1979 Airstream 280 turbo diesel
                                      Build # 4297
                                      PNW natives
                      Home base:  'Cactus Hug' (Ajo, Arizona)
                        DW Judy & Chet the wonder dog
                        Full-Timers 'Sailing the asphalt sea'

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Reply #64
When I was asked about driver training, and reported a few replies back in this thread, that I found a place in Nac for the training, I did not disclose the option. 

Anyway, as I had one other option, I thought.....ask two senior managers at MOT, would they help me help this fellow?  I should not have been surprised, but they said sure, if they sell to someone, they have done and do this if requested.

A caution....allow time.  I saw this happen, cutting time too short. IF someone makes arrangements for a dealer to provide operational training and, or driving training, be sure to allow serious time for those lessons.  It may too quickly seem that is not hard, and so easy to say, "hey, I got this....I am ready to go".  Try to allow plenty of time, trial runs.
Mike
2001 U320 4010 Build 5878 (Gus)
Wrangle Unlimited Toad
Nacogdoches

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Reply #65
You're supposed to take drivers training?  We drove 300 miles and test drove the coach. My wife sitting up in the co-captains chair sat there for a few miles, looked at me and said that this coach makes our old 32' SOB ride like a lawnmower, we are buying this one. "Yes Dear".  Drove it a hundred miles and stayed at a C.O. E lake for the night. After we got home we decided to look at the big ditch in Arizona.  While on the way we got snowed on for four days in Pagosa Springs Colo. My first lesson was snow removal from under the slide awning.  Waited a few days and saw a clearing so we made a mad dash westward to the border of Arizona. Made it a about 2 hrs and it started snowing.....again. Second lesson was driving a 33,000 lb bread box on snow down the mountain.

  Decided to visit Mesa verde natl park after leaving Pagosa Springs. Didn't have a toad so we just drove the motorhome down into and thru the park. Lesson three, how to park a coach on a 8%grade so you can look over the side of the hill.  Left there and visited the Grand Canyon. We rented a a car in Flagstaff and drove it around canyon . Took it back to airport drop off and sw a sign that said Sedona Arizona. Hmmmm friends said that was the place to go see. We pass a sign that said no trucks over 50' allowed.  Being old and stupid I told dear wife that we had a whole ten feet to spare so here we go toddling down 89A in a forty foot motorhome that we've only had a few weeks.  Third lesson learned was how not to leave cargo doors attached to guard rails on 89A.  It was a bright sunny Sunday on a major holiday so everyone and his bother was on the same road. Heavy traffic with 5 and 10 mile an hour hair pin turns.  When we got through my wife said that it sure was pretty scenery.  I could only take her word for it because the only thing a saw was the rear bumper on a Mazda in front of us.  It took an hour for my white knuckles to return to their natural state.

The point being to this whole thing is, jump in it and drive like you stole it. Use a little more common sense than I have and you'll be ok. My only saving grace is that crazy people don't have enough sense to be scared....until later.  You can do about anything until someone tells you that you can't.
Bruce & Teresa
2000 U320 4010
2015 Jeep Rubicon

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Reply #66
As my search for my first motorhome continues and while I'm still attempting to figure out the wisdom in buying my Last Coach First, I posted a new story on this topic at:

Gadget Guru Chapter 12: Shopping For A Motorhome - Is Pre-Owned Or New The...

Please return to this thread with your comments.

And, as a note to the best Mods in the free world, if this topic is not in the correct section, please feel free to place it in the proper area.
A fully restored 1957 Flxible Starliner and a 2014 Marathon Coach

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Reply #67
Andy,
I read your update and I left with the feeling that you seem to not be 100% sure how you're going to use the motorhome. That is not good my friend. If you're not certain why and how you are going to enjoy this marvel of engineering, take as long as you need to figure this out with precision.  If you don't, you will likely make a mistake in the features, layout, design, length, weight, and so on and so forth.

All the modern conveniences (read that : complexity) of a modern luxury motorhome are of no use if you don't need them or worse yet, have no use for them.  So, save yourself a lot of hassle and figure out why you need to do this.  Picture yourself planning and going to your next location, etc.

Hope this helps.  As usual, there are no questions that should go unasked.
Peter & Beth Martin
No Forrest? What have you done?
MC# 15890 until Dec 2016; FMCA #F329677
Cincinnati, OH

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Reply #68
Andy,
I read your update and I left with the feeling that you seem to not be 100% sure how you're going to use the motorhome. That is not good my friend. If you're not certain why and how you are going to enjoy this marvel of engineering, take as long as you need to figure this out with precision.  If you don't, you will likely make a mistake in the features, layout, design, length, weight, and so on and so forth.

All the modern conveniences (read that : complexity) of a modern luxury motorhome are of no use if you don't need them or worse yet, have no use for them.  So, save yourself a lot of hassle and figure out why you need to do this.  Picture yourself planning and going to your next location, etc.

Hope this helps.  As usual, there are no questions that should go unasked.

Thanks for adding to this thread as I could use all the input I can get!

I do have a usage plan and it's fairly simple...A vacation home. In fact, my plan is comparative to a yacht owner. While I enjoy my home and live in the Sunshine State, I would store it close to my area during the Winter and use to for relatively short trips and nice getaways. When the humidity kicks in, I would like to take a leisurely cross country trip, stopping for extended periods (a few days at a time), enjoy the trip and end up in Arizona or Nevada for a few months. During that period, I hope to fly back and forth possibly a week or so per month and explore the great West. Since I'm seeking a larger coach, I won't be visiting the National Parks and instead attempting to stay in Big Rig rated campgrounds. When the desert gets hot, I would relocate in Colorado to be close to family and do the same thing...fly in for a week or so and then leave it in a secure RV resort and fly back and forth each month or so.

Then, as cooler temps approach, relocate it back to Florida.

So, how's that for a plan?

Yes, I know it will most likely change with time...but I need to start somewhere!
A fully restored 1957 Flxible Starliner and a 2014 Marathon Coach

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Reply #69
[quote author=TheGadgetGuru link=msg=231109 date=1461989639

... I would like to take a leisurely cross country trip, stopping for extended periods (a few days at a time) ...

So, how's that for a plan?
[/quote]

It will start.  We know a fellow who spends winters (6 months or so) in Palm Springs, CA in his coach at an expensive Luxury RV Resort and is back this way once a month.  If your needs require you to be somewhere and you have the resources then do it.

We estimate the total milage for a trip and divide by 50 to get the minimum number of days.  Extended periods for us is at least two weeks.  In every place you go, the obvious is there to see. But it takes some more time, just being there, to start finding the not so easily seen treasures.  And there are so many to find. 

When you (and most of us) first get a coach you want to go everywhere and see everything.  Road trip.  Drive by.  And you have to work that out.  And then (maybe it is because we are retired) the short drives and long stays thinking starts to kick in.  You are  where you are for as long as you are there.  Immerse yourself and discover what is not easily seen.  And the best part, take a day off once in a while.  You deserve it.
Roger Engdahl and Susan Green
2001 U320 3610 #5879 (Home2) - 2014 Jeep Cherokee or 2018 F150
Hastings, MN

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We know a fellow who spends winters (6 months or so) in Palm Springs, CA in his coach at an expensive Luxury RV Resort and is back this way once a month.  If your needs require you to be somewhere and you have the resources then do it.

We have forum members who now have a Prevost that do that - own a lot in Indio (Motorcoach Country Club) for the winter, fly from there for work during the winter, travel to cooler climates with the coach during the summer. 

Everyone has their own personal usage plan.  Some like to move frequently, some like to stay in one place for a season.  Some like national parks, others like RV resorts.  That's the beauty of RVing - there is no standard or right or wrong way to do it as long as you're enjoying yourselves.

Now Andy, I hope you're getting Lucy's input on the coach as well  ;)
Learn every day, but especially from the experiences of others. It's cheaper!  - John C. Bogle

2000 U320 36' non-slide / WildEBeest Rescue
2003 U320

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Now Andy, I hope you're getting Lucy's input on the coach as well  ;)

Yes, Lucy gets a big vote and her choice of seating areas!


A fully restored 1957 Flxible Starliner and a 2014 Marathon Coach

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Look at all the gauges on the dash of that "coach"!  Dash envy!  And Michelle is correct ... The best plan is the one that works for you and that adapts to your changing needs.  But you need a coach to start executing the plan.
Roger Engdahl and Susan Green
2001 U320 3610 #5879 (Home2) - 2014 Jeep Cherokee or 2018 F150
Hastings, MN

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Look at all the gauges on the dash of that "coach"!  Dash envy!
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Nice! What airplane are you all in? Is it just you and Lucy on your travels?

I have a 2.5 year old Brittany - in NAC right now (drove over from Tampa this week). Had my dog flown in on AA in freight since I wanted someone to travel with - was only $191, didn't think that was so bad. They charged my Mom $125 for her tiny dog in a carrier under the seat in front of her. Way better in your own airplane, but I sold the fast airplane when I retired.

Keith (your MOT driving instructor) says HI - here you may be coming back to TX

Looking forward to your Newell visit post.

Tim
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2000 Chevy Tracker 2 Door Convertible 4WD Now lifted 4.5"
1985 Citroen 2CV6 Charleston
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