New floor

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New floor

April 28, 2016, 10:18:09 am

Finished up the floor over the past couple days. I ripped out the carpet and old ceramic, swapped for Drop n' Done flooring. Love the new product. Installed on a tight fit. I can pull up a plank at anytime to repair a piece and it is not glued down so I can change the floor out in the future should we choose. The carpet was easy to pull up, the tile, not so much. I had a ton of thin set left on the floor so I started the You tube search and discovered a cup grinder disk. This thing works like a charm. I purchased a dust cover as well and the thin set was gone, a little dust and no floor damage. Took about an hour to just float the disk over the floor to remove, I paused in between to let the disk cool off. The only issue I am working on right now is the slide. I am currently using a space piece of flooring on the slide to maintain the old height as it retracts, plus it protects the floor. Has anyone installed teflon rollers? If so, does it work?

Matthew and Rob
2001 U320 40'

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Reply #1 – April 28, 2016, 10:30:02 am

Nice job, looks great!

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Reply #2 – April 28, 2016, 11:08:39 pm

I can't imagine the dust from using a cup grinder disc! I have some experience using decidedly less dusty methods and the spouse was still quite angry.

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Reply #3 – April 28, 2016, 11:18:25 pm

Mark,

What do you consider the easiest method?

Mine has factory-installed tile in kitchen and bath, but DW thinks she would rather have some kind of wood throughout!

Thanks,

Trent

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Reply #4 – April 28, 2016, 11:42:07 pm

I don't know but we just bought a house which means, as soon as I clean up that mess it is Foretravel renovation time. First thing I am doing is tile in a herringbone pattern like the newer Tiffin coaches. I'll add in-floor heat as well.

A couple of our tiles came up on their own, presumably because a past water leak deteriorated the thinset. A couple tiles I forced up. Foretravel didn't use nearly enough thinset during the original manufacturing. This is pretty interesting because the tile is not installed on an adequate backer. I am quite surprised more people don't have issues with popping tiles/grout. I'm 250lbs so I managed to work a couple of them loose.

Getting the thinset off the floor is easy, if you're willing to known down the height of the wood a miniscule amount. I didn't want to do this so I was very very careful to cut down only until I reached wood. Getting the thinset off the tiles for reuse is a nightmare. I used an oscillating tool and blade like what I attached. I think it was a diamond blade. It's made for taking grout out, which it does pretty well for some grout but not others.

That's the tool I'd use for the job, but it still made an atrocious amount of dust, even at the lowest speed. I'd advise you to just move out while you do the work. The grinder the OP referenced is probably a lot faster.

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Reply #5 – April 29, 2016, 12:38:22 am

We had minimal dust. Used the dust cover on a 5 inch grinder, connects to a shop vac. The diamond cup was a 4 inch. Dewalt makes the best system in my opinion. No damage to sub floor at all. Worked great. We had to dust of course afterwards. I was actually surprised how easy it came up. Popped the tile with a concrete chisel. It had a guard on it that set the perfect angle. I went with the vinyl as it is warmer under my feet, can easily replace a plank and should we have a flood, I pull up the floor, let it dry, and relay. We had an option to install under floor heat but with the aquahot blowing across the floor, it always stay warm even in the winter. The floor itself has a fibreglass core that makes it freeze stable as well.

Matthew

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Reply #6 – April 29, 2016, 12:40:07 am

DEWALT DW4774 4-1/2-Inch Double-Row Diamond-Cup Grinding-Wheel, Diamond...

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Reply #7 – April 29, 2016, 12:44:02 am

FatMax Cold Chisel Concrete | The Home Depot Canada

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Reply #8 – April 29, 2016, 12:46:03 am

Sorry about the Canadian links. These were the tools I used, the floor was completely out in 2 easy days. Day was tile removal with the chisel and carpet. Day 2 was thin set removal.

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Reply #9 – April 30, 2016, 04:33:39 pm

Hmm dust guard with collection system. My christmas list just got a new item

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Reply #10 – May 07, 2016, 09:20:42 am

Just an update. How did I address my slide alignment issue? First I have to apoligize for no pictures. I was so focused, I didn't even think.

My slide height is regulated by an L shaped piece of metal on the front face of my slide in the coach. The metal has a piece of teflon on the bottom to slide across carpet. Two things I found when I pulled the carpet of the front face. One, the piece had moved up causing my slide to come out of alignment and two, a few screws had worked themselves loose and scrapped the floor. After I replace the floor boards that were damaged, I decided to wrap the teflon piece in the carpet that was still on the slide. I also took out a ruler to figure out the space needed to keep the my slide level on the trip in and out. I aligned the top of the L shaped metal with the floor on the my slide. I used a crow bar to lift up each side of the slide and put in equal spacers.

Once my "skid" was wrapped in carpet I remeasured and when the hardware to find something I could use a spacer on the back side to keep it from never coming out of alignment. I went with long pieces of square metal equally spaced. I used contact cement to attach the pieces as well as the carpet. Re-installed, removed the spacer blocks, tested and never worked better. I also know now that it will never come out of alignment

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Reply #11 – May 19, 2016, 12:08:14 pm

We are located here in the Okanagan Bc and are very interested in doing some renovation in our coach , mainly flooring and possible
a couch replacement, So my Question ,Does anyone know of a reputable place to get this done . If I had the room or place I would do the work myself , But unfortunately I don't .
Thank you in advance
Redwing.

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Reply #12 – May 20, 2016, 07:14:51 am

Quote from: redwing – May 19, 2016, 12:08:14 pm

We are located here in the Okanagan Bc and are very interested in doing some renovation in our coach , mainly flooring and possible
a couch replacement, So my Question ,Does anyone know of a reputable place to get this done . If I had the room or place I would do the work myself , But unfortunately I don't .
Thank you in advance
Redwing.

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Reply #13 – May 20, 2016, 09:15:23 am

We had ours done at Infinity in Nac I wish I could recommend them for flooring but I can not and had to have rework done at Foretravel. As to the couch, they do excellent upholstery work.

Quote from: erniee – May 20, 2016, 07:14:51 am

ME

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Reply #14 – May 20, 2016, 10:00:37 am

Quote from: erniee – May 20, 2016, 07:14:51 am

ME

Erniee is apparently a "man of few words". If you are interested in his services, he has a listing in the "Commercial" section of the Forum.
He also has a website here:

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Reply #15 – May 20, 2016, 10:16:59 am

Redwing,
The nearest RV place with Foretravel experience, they used to be a dealer in an earlier life, to you would be RnR in Liberty Lake, WA just East of Spokane.
I cannot speak of their expertise on flooring but a call to 1-800-873-9002 or 1-509-755-0030 may get you some answers. I have had servicing done there and was happy. Keith Woodruff is the service manager.
Speedbird 1.

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Reply #16 – May 20, 2016, 12:14:54 pm

Rob, the floor can be done by any good floor layer you just have to remove all the "stuff" attached to walls and floor. If you are recovering the couch call Hagels on Eckhardt St. They are doing furniture all the time, and family have been there for ages.
JohnH

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Reply #17 – May 20, 2016, 01:42:52 pm

Thank you John , I will call hagels and see what he thinks .
Rob

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Reply #18 – May 20, 2016, 01:53:34 pm

Be careful when having someone lay the floor. We had beautiful Brazilian Teak laid in 3/4 in T n G. The guy told me when he was done that he'd "Laid it really tight" so when the coach dried out with winter heating it wouldn't separate. Well, our coach never dries out so when the summer humidity came around we had some buckling and it still isn't right, usable but not right.

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Reply #19 – May 20, 2016, 02:00:34 pm

Quote from: Chuck & Jeannie – May 20, 2016, 10:00:37 am

Erniee is apparently a "man of few words". If you are interested in his services, he has a listing in the "Commercial" section of the Forum.
He also has a website here:

Yahoo! Groups

My research showed that Ernie is the go to guy for wood floors. He is so good that he has wait list. When I checked last June it was two year wait.

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Reply #20 – May 20, 2016, 02:52:43 pm

Larry, if he had said that to me I would have walked (before he put it in). I do not think there are any reasons to "lay it really tight" as you have to allow for both ends of the spectrum. With a proper gap around and the right moulding this is usually all you need. I try to have the wood climatized for a week or so in the room it is going, but realise that may be tough with a coach. My Maple floor I put in has now gone thru the cold/wet/dry and humid times and still looks like day 1. I did put a strip of glue along each row along with pinning T&G joints.
This is not a hard job to do, just work and proper prepping before.
JohnH

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Reply #21 – May 20, 2016, 06:46:36 pm

When I install engineered wood, I adhere it with urethane adhesive. I do cut the wood tight against cabinets/walls, etc. If there is any expansion, it has not had any detrimental effects on my jobs cause- I haven't had any complaints

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Reply #22 – June 07, 2016, 12:14:25 pm

Quote from: redwing – May 19, 2016, 12:08:14 pm

We are located here in the Okanagan Bc and are very interested in doing some renovation in our coach , mainly flooring and possible
a couch replacement, So my Question ,Does anyone know of a reputable place to get this done . If I had the room or place I would do the work myself , But unfortunately I don't .
Thank you in advance
Redwing.

Try these guys,, from what I saw... knew their stuff
Woodland, WA

RV Furniture and Remodel At Dave and LJs

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Reply #23 – June 07, 2016, 06:54:41 pm

Folks- if you are contemplating wood floors- it would be advisable to use engineered wood. This material is dimensionally stable and will not have the reactions of dry and humid atmosphere. I have 3/4 thick wood in one of our halls at home. The wood cups on the edges when the humidity is high. FYI

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Reply #24 – June 07, 2016, 07:08:02 pm

I agree with Ernie. We have 3/4 in wood and it cups and when we had a leak it was a mess. Engineered is the way to go if you are thinking of wood.

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