Throttle pedal assembly location on floor

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Throttle pedal assembly location on floor

June 14, 2016, 10:46:34 pm

I am hoping for a quick answer here... I am in the middle of redoing the floor in the cockpit area. I'm using click lock type of flooring which is floating. I neglected to note the exact location of the throttle assembly before I started putting the underlayment etc. down. So I'm hoping for just a picture of the throttle pedal next to the brake pedal so I can hone in on a location for it. I don't have a chair in right now, so I can't really test sit the brake pedal. I am attaching a picture of where I think it probably was in relation to the brake. My guess is about an inch and a half of space in between the pedals, but on roughly the same plane.
Thanks, Don

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Reply #1 – June 14, 2016, 10:51:57 pm

That looks about right. I put ours with a slight turn to the left. Easier to push on for me. Really doesn't make that much difference. Put it where it is comfortable for you.

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Reply #2 – June 14, 2016, 11:08:02 pm

Looks about right, like Larry said slight angle to the right works for me.

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Reply #3 – June 14, 2016, 11:19:09 pm

Here is mine

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Reply #4 – June 14, 2016, 11:19:46 pm

Had the same issue when I removed carpet and installed tile. I recommend at least twice that much space. If you ever drive with boots on you may have issues if they are too close. I want to know which pedal I'm stepping on without looking. Stepping on both simultaneously can be exciting. I too angled the throttle slightly left for ergonomics. I will post a pic when I get a chance.

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Reply #5 – June 14, 2016, 11:25:55 pm

Disregard...Crane Man beat me to it.

Notice how the throttle is slightly closer than the brake. This is standard in semi's and it just feels "right"

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Reply #6 – June 14, 2016, 11:27:49 pm

Interesting responses... I don't remember ours being at an angle to the brake pedal, but then I never really looked at it with that in mind. The thing is, I was quite happy with the position of it as it was but I never really paid attention to the specifics of its location in relationship to the brake pedal. I need to cut the flooring material to mount the pedal, so I want to get it right the first time. So I guess my question now is, did for travel typically put the pedal at a slight angle in relationship to the brake pedal which is perpendicular to the driving position. If I had the driver chair in place, I could play with it and decide based on how it feels... I guess I could leave that part for the last, but it will be a lot harder to access it once the drivers chair is back in.

Excellent pictures Craneman! I see you have an addition to the brake pedal to make finding it easier under duress

Based on the responses so far, I think I will separate them a bit more and consider angling it a bit.
Thanks, Don

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Reply #7 – June 14, 2016, 11:44:30 pm

That stopper was on the coach when I bought it. Maybe to make sure you are on the brake and not the throttle.

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Reply #8 – June 15, 2016, 12:01:45 am

The flooring must be cut out around the brake. The throttle can, and usually is, mounted on top of the flooring. You can wait until the pilot seat is installed before mounting the throttle. This way you can install it where it feels right for you. I believe the reason for the throttle being slightly closer to you than the brake is in case of a panic stop. You can slide your foot directly left then stomp the brake. If they were in the same plane, your shoe may catch the side of the brake pedal. (Just my thoughts)

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Reply #9 – June 15, 2016, 12:51:08 am

The flooring, underlayment, and ¼" plywood are cut around the brake pedal (and of course the steering column). As are the seat mounting adapter plates I made to fit new Flexsteel bases (had to install taller pedestals to accommodate the power foot rest of the new passenger chair, and the pedestals that Foretravel used had a different bolt pattern

). This is a floating floor and I am trying to follow the installation guidelines not to restrict movement of the flooring by pining it down. With this small an area, it might be fine to stick it down... Ultimately, there will be some flexible caulking around the perimeter, but I think that will be fine. This flooring is so called "luxury vinyl" with a 20 mil wear layer. You aren't supposed to use any underlayment, but I reasoned that some dense rubber (gym floor mat that is made out of recycled tire rubber) would provide a firm enough base as well as sound deadening. That stuff is quite heavy, about like the stuff Foretravel put in as far as weight, but very firm. Anyway, the last cut will be for the throttle which is why I want to get it right the first time! I will post a "how to" about the installation when I finish. Here is a teaser picture....
Don

Quote from: Jet Doc – June 15, 2016, 12:01:45 am

The flooring must be cut out around the brake. The throttle can, and usually is, mounted on top of the flooring. You can wait until the pilot seat is installed before mounting the throttle. This way you can install it where it feels right for you. I believe the reason for the throttle being slightly closer to you than the brake is in case of a panic stop. You can slide your foot directly left then stomp the brake. If they were in the same plane, your shoe may catch the side of the brake pedal. (Just my thoughts)

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Reply #10 – June 15, 2016, 01:34:25 am

Wow! That looks just great! Very subtle colors and finish. The look is classic. Thanks for the "tease."

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Reply #11 – June 15, 2016, 02:01:58 am

Looks nice Don

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Reply #12 – June 15, 2016, 03:08:24 am

Do not see much of this anymore but a certain percentage of my old Foretravel customers asked me to put the brake pedal on the other side of the steering column as they were left foot brakers.

No.

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Reply #13 – June 15, 2016, 07:03:40 am

Don't you have a milk crate or plastic chair that could simulate your driver's chair?

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Reply #14 – June 15, 2016, 08:54:10 am

Don,
Sit in a chair with your feet apart on their heels like they would be with the steering column when driving. Relax, look at the angle your feet roll out to, that natural position would be comfortable without holding your foot on the pedal.

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Reply #15 – June 15, 2016, 09:44:48 am

Hop this picture helps you Don. The throttle pedal is on an angle.

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Reply #16 – June 15, 2016, 09:49:47 am

Is it plausible--just maybe-- the reason the throttle pedal is slanted/rotated a bit is because most drivers tend to rest their right knee against the console while driving? Kind of like a ergonomic cruise support when not using the cruise option?

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Reply #17 – June 15, 2016, 09:54:31 am

Richard,
That is helpful, thanks! Yours and Craneman's appears to be in a similar juxtaposition, but I will drag a chair down there and try some different options starting with this. Thanks for the responses all!
Don

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Reply #18 – June 15, 2016, 02:48:06 pm

My thought on the angle setting is that you rotate the hip joint slightly to activate the throttle( to keep the foot flat against pedal) and the brake is straight ahead for more pressure up to the base of spine.
JohnH

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Reply #19 – June 15, 2016, 04:36:51 pm

When I did my floor I moved the throttle over a couple of inches to the right so that I could extend my foot between the brake and throttle. I have long legs and this allows me to stretch out a little on the highway while on cruise control. YMMV...

see ya
ken

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Reply #20 – June 15, 2016, 05:26:25 pm

Quote from: kenhat – June 15, 2016, 04:36:51 pm

When I did my floor I moved the throttle over a couple of inches to the right so that I could extend my foot between the brake and throttle. I have long legs and this allows me to stretch out a little on the highway while on cruise control. YMMV...

see ya
ken

Mine had the throttle far enough from the brake that I would slip my foot between when on cruise. Just redid the floor and moved it closer to brake & at an angle. Feels good sitting and playing with it. Will find out how good I did on next trip.

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Reply #21 – June 15, 2016, 05:26:49 pm

Quote from: kenhat – June 15, 2016, 04:36:51 pm

on the highway while on cruise control.

Yes, color me old and in the way. Brett put a state-of-the-art CC in our coach, never used it. I'd suppose, if crossing the flats, I'd use it, but out here, I like my foot and my gauges.

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Reply #22 – June 15, 2016, 05:59:37 pm

I played with the position, went through my photos and found a couple of shots of our coach that accidentally showed some part of the throttle pedal, looked at the pics from the thread, and made up my mind. Now the location is a done deal! I went with a slight angle based on just swinging my leg from a sitting position and used the arc to set the angle. I think it is maybe a half inch farther to the right than previous, but I am sure that it will quickly become second nature. I thought about it for awhile (overthink???), and concluded that the difference between cars that I am used to is that the steering column goes much closer to vertical in the coach and the sitting position is much more like a standard chair than a car or pickup. Since the brake is right of the column, the throttle is necessarily going to be further out of line with center of the driver's right leg, thus the arc comes into play. If the pedal was in line with direction of travel, but as far right as it needs to be, that makes the ankle bend awkwardly to accommodate. So I am happy to have gotten the opinions and pictures from all of you fine fellows who replied. Thanks!

I have attached a couple of pictures to illustrate what I came up with...
Don

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